Atheists Corner – A place to post your opinion

[Twila]

Nope.

short and too the point. very concise.


What would it take for you to believe this? Proof wise.

Yes some can and that is a matter of carefully conducted experimentation by science. You might google Rupert Sheldrake and check out morphic fields.

Do you think they can predict the future or only things about an individuals past and present?

Going to check out Mr. Rupert Sheldrake and morphic fields. Thanks DB

 

[darkbeaver]

short and too the point. very concise.

What would it take for you to believe this? Proof wise.

It has already been falsified so to change my mind would require a miracle, or several million dollars.

Do you think they can predict the future or only things about an individuals past and present?

Going to check out Mr. Rupert Sheldrake and morphic fields. Thanks DB[/QUOTE

Go to the Sheldrake site there you will be delighted by the experiments with dogs, all having to do with what the mind really is, the super conscious. Flocks of birds and schools of fish move in unison because they read each others minds simultaneously, shared consciousness. If you like exciting mind bending.

I'm a theist in that God to me is electricity, the most powerful force in the universe the one force in all things no matter what, from atoms to cells to planets to stars to galaxies all obey it's dictates, without fail.

 

[Twila]

Go to the Sheldrake site there you will be delighted by the experiments with dogs, all having to do with what the mind really is, the super conscience. Flocks of birds and schools of fish move in unison because they read each others minds simultaneously. If you like exciting mind bending.

I love exciting mind bending. It's like LSD but without being fu cked up for hours.

I never thought delight would be the emotion I felt upon hearing dog and experiment in the same sentence before. So this should be a first for me.

 

[darkbeaver]

I love exciting mind bending. It's like LSD but without being fu cked up for hours.

I never thought delight would be the emotion I felt upon hearing dog and experiment in the same sentence before. So this should be a first for me.

You'll love it. LSD's OK but natural science is better, when the lights just right.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Going to check out Mr. Rupert Sheldrake and morphic fields. Thanks DB

Better check this out too: www.skepdic.com\morphicres.html

And be advised, DB understands nothing of real science and will refer you to nothing but junk sites.

 

[JLM]

]"I don't know" is an admission a lot of people have great difficulty with.[/B] I think it is a very human trait to wish to assign purpose or structure to everything we encounter, to pigeonhole everything into its place in the grand scheme, to understand. It is a strangely liberating step to accept that there are mysteries currently beyond our understanding. On the same token, I tend to paint hard-line atheists with the same brush I'd use on unshakable "believers", it just doesn't make sense to me to take such a solid position on something for which there is no definitive proof one way or the other. An agnostic position feels much more in tune with reality.

It's the only truthful answer any of us can give.

What's your take on psychics? Do you believe they can predict?

Yes and no. Most of them are bullsh*tters. I think there is the odd one who can see something that actually exists like the whereabouts of a lost child in the forest etc. but I don't believe anyone can predict what next weeks 6/49 numbers will be. I do believe however that some have a mindset capable of making some things happen. I think lots of people have cured themselves for instance by making up their minds they are going to get well. Actually I've done that myself.

 

[Nick Danger]

yes, i guess what you explain makes everything seem so simple, but i would think the majority of people who are real believers could never settle on the 'i don't know', idea, just as i, who is a non believer
can't settle on the 'i don't know' idea either. that just doesn't feel comfortable, it would be saying
something that isn't true in my heart. the believers have definite statements that, for them make believing right, and i, on the other side, also have definite thoughts that satisfy my non belief, so just saying 'i don't know' seems like a
refusal to make a decision.

I don't see it as a refusal to make a decision, but rather an admission that there is a lack of sufficient evidence on which to base an informed decision.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Most of them are bullsh*tters.

Almost right. They're ALL bullsh!tters. Most of them I don't think are conscious frauds, they believe they can do it, but they're deluded and so is anyone who buys their bullsh!t. A skilled cold reader can be pretty convincing to anyone who doesn't understand what's really going on.

 

[JLM]

Almost right. They're ALL bullsh!tters. Most of them I don't think are conscious frauds, they believe they can do it, but they're deluded and so is anyone who buys their bullsh!t. A skilled cold reader can be pretty convincing to anyone who doesn't understand what's really going on.

You might want to do some research on Edgar Cayce. You might find it quite enlightening!

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I read all about Cayce decades ago, when I was in high school. No substance there either.

 

[talloola]

I don't see it as a refusal to make a decision, but rather an admission that there is a lack of sufficient evidence on which to base an informed decision.

we have not yet discovered how we came to have life on this earth, BUT that has nothing to do with any god.

just because we don't know how we arrived on this planet, certainly isn't a reason to go along with the
idea that it might be a god.

in my mind, gods are just the supernatural, myths, fairy tales, no different than santa clause or the
easter bunny. so that idea is out, i'll wait till something more sensible is discovered, but it won;t
be in my lifetime, or many lifetimes from now, i'm sorry i'm going to miss it, it is fascinating
and very interesting.

i'm not going to sit on the fence and play both sides, i'm comfortable, and not afraid that i might
miss out on going thru the golden gates, or burn in some hell somewhere, those are frightening myths
that were crammed down our throats as a child, scare tactics to make us behave, very silly to remember
back, sitting in church and listening to the priest preach nonsense to us, trying to convince us we
must follow along, or else, i've been free of all of that make believe since i was about 12 or so.

yes, i am a happy Atheist, And to anyone who is a happy believer, good for you, the more happy people
there are on this earth, the better.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

And to anyone who is a happy believer, good for you, the more happy people there are on this earth, the better.

As long as the happy believers don't try to insist I have to agree with them, or try to get their beliefs turned into public policy. Then the excrement hits the ventilator.

 

[Nick Danger]

i'm not going to sit on the fence and play both sides...

As is your right. I, on the other hand, will remain firmly on the fence playing neither side until the time one of them presents a good case. The world is not as black and white as some would like, there's still enough mystery to go around.

 

[JLM]

No one knows for sure what the answer is and those who say they do (like Bible thumpers) are bullsh*tters!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

we have not yet discovered how we came to have life on this earth, BUT that has nothing to do with any god.

just because we don't know how we arrived on this planet, certainly isn't a reason to go along with the
idea that it might be a god.

in my mind, gods are just the supernatural, myths, fairy tales, no different than santa clause or the
easter bunny. so that idea is out, i'll wait till something more sensible is discovered, but it won;t
be in my lifetime, or many lifetimes from now, i'm sorry i'm going to miss it, it is fascinating
and very interesting.

i'm not going to sit on the fence and play both sides, i'm comfortable, and not afraid that i might
miss out on going thru the golden gates, or burn in some hell somewhere, those are frightening myths
that were crammed down our throats as a child, scare tactics to make us behave, very silly to remember
back, sitting in church and listening to the priest preach nonsense to us, trying to convince us we
must follow along, or else, i've been free of all of that make believe since i was about 12 or so.

yes, i am a happy Atheist, And to anyone who is a happy believer, good for you, the more happy people
there are on this earth, the better.

You're conflating the question of the existence of a god with the conduct of, presumably, Christians in your childhood. Different questions. If a god does exist, churches could still be as insane as they are.

Is there a god? No. Same reason there ain't fairies, space aliens, or hot nymphomaniacs who enjoy housework. In the complete absence of evidence, one must conclude the phenomenon claimed doesn't exist.

Given evidence, that changes.

 

[Twila]

Better check this out too: www.skepdic.com\morphicres.html

And be advised, DB understands nothing of real science and will refer you to nothing but junk sites.

DS, have you checked out the Skeptics Dictionary? I've only recently discovered it so have only read a small portion. Whats your take on it?

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I've been referring to it for years, it's an excellent reference site, highly recommended.

 

[Blackleaf]

I dont believe in souls for the same reason I dont believe in gods - there is no concrete evidence to support it.

There is evidence that God exists - it's all around.

However, there is NO evidence whatsoever that God and souls DON'T exist, so that's why I believe they exist. Because there is no evidence at all that they don't.

 

[JLM]

There is evidence that God exists - it's all around.

However, there is NO evidence whatsoever that God and souls DON'T exist, so that's why I believe they exist. Because there is no evidence at all that they don't.

Actually you make a valid point for once in a blue moon! -

 

[Dexter Sinister]

There's no evidence there's not an invisible pink unicorn in my garage either, but that's not a reason to believe there is. Believing something is true because there's no evidence it's not is just dumb.