So, your contention is that state peace officers have no role in enforcing federal laws?
Arizona's Immigration Law
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So, your contention is that state peace officers have no role in enforcing federal laws?
I would guess (strictly from a common sense point of view) that, that would be a wrong contention........................:smile:
More info about this: Liberal media watchdog Media Matters takes down this study's methodology in the process of rebuking Fox News' reporting this as fact.
Fox runs with right-wing group's absurd "estimate" that "2,158 killed by illegals every year" | Media Matters for America
They point out that immigrants in the US have lower chances of committing crime than US citizens.
Right, well I'm focused on what Media Matters says, not what it is, and what it's saying is well sourced and verifiable.
Well Icarus27k, careful you don't fly too close to the Sun.
Here are a few more sources of truth for you: DailyKos, Huffington Post, New York Times, Atlanta Urinal/Constipation, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post and Newsweek, in the print media.
Spice that up with CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, MSNBC in the airwaives/cable world.
If you request I can give you names of authors, journalists, actors etc. with every bit as much credibility as MediaMatters.
Here are a few more sources of truth for you: DailyKos, Huffington Post, New York Times, Atlanta Urinal/Constipation, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post and Newsweek, in the print media.
Spice that up with CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, MSNBC in the airwaives/cable world.
If you request I can give you names of authors, journalists, actors etc. with every bit as much credibility as MediaMatters.
Icarus27k defended his unquestioning faith in dubious news sources, thus:
"Again, what they report is not a matter of their credibility. Rather it's a matter of whether what they say checks out, and when they source what they say, it's truth.
Arguing the source (aka ad hominem) is saying nothing."
Icarus27k, would you be so kind and repeat your message to all the detractors of FOXNews? PLEASE!!
"Again, what they report is not a matter of their credibility. Rather it's a matter of whether what they say checks out, and when they source what they say, it's truth.
Arguing the source (aka ad hominem) is saying nothing."
Icarus27k, would you be so kind and repeat your message to all the detractors of FOXNews? PLEASE!!
Never mind this liberal conservative thing, crime is being committed by illegal and legal immigrants. (not including our own home grown variety) Those are the ones that should be targeted and either jailed or sent back to where they came from. If it were up to the liberals we all would be living in fear with our doors bolted all the time because we don't want to offend the poor misunderstood.
The Immigrant Gang Plague
Heather Mac Donald
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Before immigration optimists issue another rosy prognosis for America’s multicultural future, they might visit Belmont High School in Los Angeles’s overwhelmingly Hispanic, gang-ridden Rampart district. “Upward and onward” is not a phrase that comes to mind when speaking to the first- and second-generation immigrant teens milling around the school this January.
“Most of the people I used to hang out with when I first came to the school have dropped out,” observes Jackie, a vivacious illegal alien from Guatemala. “Others got kicked out or got into drugs. Five graduated, and four home girls got pregnant.”
Certainly, none of the older teens I met outside Belmont was on track to graduate. Jackie herself flunked ninth grade (“I used to ditch a lot,” she explains) and never caught up. She is now pursuing a General Equivalency Diploma—a watered-down certificate for dropouts or expelled students—in the school’s “adult” division. Vanessa, who sports a tiny horseshoe protruding from her nostrils, is applying to the adult division, too, having been kicked out of Belmont at age 18. “I didn’t come to school very often,” says this American-born child of illegal aliens from El Salvador. Her boyfriend, Albert, a dashing 19-year-old with long, slicked-back hair, got expelled for truancy but has talked his way back into the regular high school. “I have good manipulative skills,” he smiles. After a robbery conviction, Albert was put on probation but broke every rule in the book: “Curfews, grades, attendance, missed court days,” he boasts. “But they still let me off the hook.”
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_3_immigrant_gang.html
How would liberal Canadians or for that matter any Canadians feel if their children were booted out of school for wearing a shirt with the Maple Leaf on it?
Something similar happened in the States when American kids were booted out of school for wearing shirt with the Stars and Stripes.
The excuse of the treasonous vice principal who had the nerve and the sickening political correctness to send the kids home was that these horrible American kids did their horrible deed on Stinko de Mayo Day.
Maybe he should have sent the Mexican intruders home.
Something similar happened in the States when American kids were booted out of school for wearing shirt with the Stars and Stripes.
The excuse of the treasonous vice principal who had the nerve and the sickening political correctness to send the kids home was that these horrible American kids did their horrible deed on Stinko de Mayo Day.
Maybe he should have sent the Mexican intruders home.
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I see, so they are not objective. But of course, 'Conservative policy news' is totally objective, according to you, as you are arguing in the other thread. You quoted something from that website as the absolute, Gospel truth.
So basically what you are saying is that we must take what conservatives, Republicans say as objective, absolute truth, and assume anybody who disagrees with them are lying.
Glad to know where you are coming from.
Quite so, ironsides, as I explained in one of my previous posts, that is how prejudice works. If Ted Bundy or Timothy McVeigh commits crimes, then a criminal has committed crimes, the fact that he is white has nothing to do with it.
But if an immigrant (particularly a non white immigrant) commits crimes, then an immigrant has committed crimes, that proves that most immigrants (legal and illegal) are criminals and must be imprisoned or deported
Judicial Watch is an organization funded by conservative Republicans. They are a bunch of lawyers funded by Republicans. When Clinton was in office, Judicial Watch spent eight years suing Clinton about something or other non stop. They vigorously supported Clinton impeachment. Of course, they had no problem with anything Bush did for eight years.
Judicial Watch has zero credibility.
Wrong.
Care to provide some proof of this SJP?
Ya so?
Again, for the last time, since you've already conceded on this once. An landed immigrant, must carry his/her green card at all times.
Why not? You think anyone that is a Conservative, is a lying sack of crap and anything from a liberal source is gospel.
You change the goal posts so much and ignore fact so often, it's impossible to know where you're coming from.
More then you do.
My own Deja Vue
Libs or Dems following a leader;-)
Dunno.....but thanks for reposting the pic for me:lol::lol::lol:
How about this position of the Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police as some proof? They say the state immigration bill "will negatively affect the ability of law enforcement agencies across the state to fulfill their many responsibilities in a timely manner."
They go on to say, "[W]e remain strong in our belief that [immigration] is an issue most appropriately addressed at the federal level."
Source: http://www.leei.us/main/media/AACOP_STATEMENT_ON_SENATE_BILL_1070.pdf