Hey, I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. It is just that I am wrong so rarely. But it does happen.
Arizona's Immigration Law
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Hey, I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. It is just that I am wrong so rarely. But it does happen.
Indeed. And if the law had stated that everybody, whites, blacks, browns, yellows etc. everybody had to provide proof of citizenship, there won't be any problem. It would be analogous to everybody going through the same examination at the airport.
But when left to the discretion of the police officer, he would naturally skip over the white people and ask the Hispanics to produce the proof (since there are so few white illegals in Arizona).
Oh but that's racist too...haven't you heard? Any Immigration Law is racist.
Doing anything less than exactly what we are told is racist.
A drivers license is needed to drive in all states (proof of residency is required, social security card/passport copy of utility bill addressed to you at your place of residence) to get a drivers license (as well as driving test if needed), but what about the immigrant who has nothing and is transported to and from work in the back of a pickup truck?
Racism is a totally moot point here. Americans are justified in not wanting Mexicans (or Swedes, Mongolians or Ethiopians ) entering the country illegally and posing an encumbrance upon tax paying Americans.
"when left to the discretion of the police officer, he would naturally skip over the white people and ask the Hispanics to produce the proof (since there are so few white illegals in Arizona)."
You mean, DEMAND proof.
In NYC and the Northeast the cops don't bother the million plus white illegals but hassle all else. The right wing media knows it but doesn't give a sh*t about reporting it.
You mean, DEMAND proof.
In NYC and the Northeast the cops don't bother the million plus white illegals but hassle all else. The right wing media knows it but doesn't give a sh*t about reporting it.
Yep, because that law is already on the Federal books.
Look up the responsibility of legal immigrants.
They must have on them at all times their "green Card". Period.
What utter BS. In most if not all jurisdictions, one must provide a series of identification, including birth certificates, SIN, or landed immigrant status.
You just conceded...OMG!!!
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Poor little minority person, it must have been horrible for you being pushed around by those mean NYC police. If your quote was not a first person experience, you know nothing about the codes major police departments must adhere to. Of course there are exceptions and they are usually taken care of immediately. If stopped by a policeman all you have to do is produce identification, we all carry something.
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Bull...the Irish are constantly getting shipped off from Boston. There was a Dane here at work that was contacted by ICE and he is back cooling his wooden shoes in the old country.
The difference is they go home and don't whine racisim when it's time to leave.
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As I understand it, proof of residence is simply some proof that you are living in the jurisdiction, such as utility bill addressed to you at your address.
But do they also require proof of citizenship, or green card to get driver’s license? If so, how about those who are in the country on a temporary basis (students, exchange visitors etc.)? Are they not given driver’s license/
When it comes to the issue of illegal immigration, there probably is plenty of racial profiling. The problem is that white illegals look like white citizens, cops won't bother them. Brown illegals may look like brown immigrants, but that doesn't stop the cops from harassing them.
"What utter BS. In most if not all jurisdictions, one must provide a series of identification, including birth certificates, SIN, or landed immigrant status."
You have that right especially since recently here in Canada drivers licenses can now be used in place of passports for entry to the U.S. at least.
You have that right especially since recently here in Canada drivers licenses can now be used in place of passports for entry to the U.S. at least.
"it must have been horrible for you being pushed around by those mean NYC police"
LOL! I was once stopped by a cop who obviously didn't like my presence in a particular place and rudely demanded that I produce ID. I was an IRS agent at the time, produced my Federal ID badge, and indicated that I was on duty. When he saw it he quickly walked away as he was aware it is a Federal crime to interfere with a Fed's work when he is on duty. Yeah, cops like to boss people around. But every once in a while they get theirs, too.
LOL! I was once stopped by a cop who obviously didn't like my presence in a particular place and rudely demanded that I produce ID. I was an IRS agent at the time, produced my Federal ID badge, and indicated that I was on duty. When he saw it he quickly walked away as he was aware it is a Federal crime to interfere with a Fed's work when he is on duty. Yeah, cops like to boss people around. But every once in a while they get theirs, too.
"When it comes to the issue of illegal immigration, there probably is plenty of racial profiling. The problem is that white illegals look like white citizens, cops won't bother them. Brown illegals may look like brown immigrants, but that doesn't stop the cops from harassing them."
100% truth.
100% truth.
I remember a few years ago two of my friends were driving in USA, on the Ohio Turnpike. They were pulled over for speeding (in those days they were very strict on Ohio Turnpike, the speed limit was 55mph, you could be pulled over for doing 60).
Anyway, they were sitting in the car and the cop was writing a ticket. One of them decided to smoke, so he got out of the car. To his astonishment, the cop immediately pulled out his gun and pointed at him. The cop assumed that my friend had got out of the car to shoot him.
Both my friends were white, so it wasn’t a racial incidence. But sometimes cops do act without thinking.
Already answered. Federal statute dictates all laned immigrants carry with them at all times, their "Green Card".
More BS, to try and push your original view of this law, back into focus.
The State Troopers that they came into contact with, face serious criminals daily. You should try the same thing with the OPP, or QPP, and see what happens.
The Trooper was thinking, very much so. He was thinking he's going home to his family tonight. You have no idea that shyte they have to face in a day. Given the level of BS in your posts, you likely know very little about US Law Enforcement and how or why they behave as they do. Well within their scope of the rules.
It's sure turning into a sick, sick world. Fifty five years ago I went to school and hung around with Swedes, East Indians, Chinese, Native Indians and race and colour of skin was never an issue - never discussed never thought about, they were just people, some of course were A$$holes, but not based on the present day criteria. Racial profiling and even the discussion thereof is sick. People need to get a life.