Arizona's Immigration Law
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Which is why, of course, that you keep asserting that the intent is racist. You can know the intent, but for anyone else, it's an 'impossible task'.
Re post #80.
If a person who is white, blond (or any other horrible racist attributes you can think of) is suspected of committing a crime, he/she will be asked to provide an ID. Yes, I seriously believe that.
If the law were designed to harass brown people, then all the Arizona Legislative Assembly members who are brown, are traitors to their race. Of course, that is and has been said about blacks and refuse to toe the racist line.
If a person who is white, blond (or any other horrible racist attributes you can think of) is suspected of committing a crime, he/she will be asked to provide an ID. Yes, I seriously believe that.
If the law were designed to harass brown people, then all the Arizona Legislative Assembly members who are brown, are traitors to their race. Of course, that is and has been said about blacks and refuse to toe the racist line.
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Illegal immigration has been a drain on Arizona. Hospitals are closing because Illegal Immigrants get free health care whenever they chose. The crime rate because of the illegal drug trade by illegal immigrants is rampant.
So they HAVE to simply say it's racist to deflect for the real reasons this law was passed.
I was listening to an opponent of the law speak at the rally to which she said...
"We will break this state. We will turn our shovels and axes upon them."
That is what they are dealing with down there. It is easy for a NIMBY racist to point fingers as he sits in a home provided by another.
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Looks like the newly enacted law is working already:
My Way News - Illegal immigrants plan to leave over Ariz. law
My Way News - Illegal immigrants plan to leave over Ariz. law
I am entitled to have an opinion on the subject, TenPenny. Looking at the past racist history of Arizona (where they decided to forego the 200 odd million $ revenue generated by Super Bowl, rather than declare MLK birthday a holiday), it is an educated guess, that the intent is racist.
They will be asked for an ID, as they are today. They will be asked for their driver's license, but nor for their birth certificate or their passport. A brown skinned person won't be asked just for driver's license, but he will have to prove that he is in USA legally (green card, passport, birth certificate etc.). If he cannot do that, he will be thrown in to jail. That is a huge difference.
And just how many brown legislators voted for the bill?
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The problem of illegal immigration is not solved by passing an overtly racist legislation. That is like saying that let us cure the bowel cancer of a person by cutting him open and throwing sulphuric acid on the tumour. Sure, drown the patient's inside in sulfuric acid and it will destroy the tumour. But what will it do to the patient? In this case, the cure is worse than the disease.
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That is the effect of the law, to harass only the brown skinned people. In my opinion, that is also the intent. Arizona has a well documented history of racism.
Part of the disease is people who insist on referring to other people as black, brown or white.
Do you know of any upstanding clean-cut all-American folk who will work for less than scale?
Do you know of any upstanding clean-cut all-American folk who will work for less than scale?
"A brown skinned person won't be asked just for driver's license, but he will have to prove that he is in USA legally (green card, passport, birth certificate etc.). If he cannot do that, he will be thrown in to jail. That is a huge difference."
If that brown-skinned person can prove that he/she is in Arizona LEGALLY, he/she will suffer no more than a blond and blue eyed person.
If he/she is there ILLEGALLY, the law was broken and the offender should be in jail and promptly deported.
There is absolutely NOTHING racist or discrimanatory about that.
Legal or illegal. Indeed, there is a huge difference.
If that brown-skinned person can prove that he/she is in Arizona LEGALLY, he/she will suffer no more than a blond and blue eyed person.
If he/she is there ILLEGALLY, the law was broken and the offender should be in jail and promptly deported.
There is absolutely NOTHING racist or discrimanatory about that.
Legal or illegal. Indeed, there is a huge difference.
There most certainly is. A brown person will have to prove that he is in USA legally, If he cannot, he forgot to carry his citizenship papers, or left home in a hurry etc., he will be thrown into jail. That will not happen to a white man. It is both racist and discriminatory.
Only a brown person has to carry his citizenship papers with him (and he is in big trouble if he forgets), a white person doesn't have to do that.
"There most certainly is. A brown person will have to prove that he is in USA legally, If he cannot, he forgot to carry his citizenship papers, or left home in a hurry etc., he will be thrown into jail. That will not happen to a white man. It is both racist and discriminatory."
Please quote the appropriate passages from the law that says that white ILLEGAL immigrants be given a spacial status.
Legal is legal and illegal is illegal. No matter how you try to spin it, the law does not differentiate by skin colour.
Please quote the appropriate passages from the law that says that white ILLEGAL immigrants be given a spacial status.
Legal is legal and illegal is illegal. No matter how you try to spin it, the law does not differentiate by skin colour.
"Only a brown person has to carry his citizenship papers with him (and he is in big trouble if he forgets), a white person doesn't have to do that."
A green card, or a passport, or any other piece of paper weighs what? half an ounce? 10 grams?
Great physical hardship to carry it! If you have it to begin with, of course!
A green card, or a passport, or any other piece of paper weighs what? half an ounce? 10 grams?
Great physical hardship to carry it! If you have it to begin with, of course!
Do you seriously believe that any policeman in Arizona is going to ask a white person to pull over and ask for the immigration documents? If you believe that, I have some prime waterfront property you may be interested in buying. It is called the Brooklyn Bridge.
The way it will work is only brown people will be asked to prove their citizenship status. That is why there is so much outcry about it, why the bill is racist, both in intent and in implementation.
If you are driving a car, you are supposed to have your driver's license with you.
Since the vast majority of people stopped under this law will be driving cars, they are supposed to have the required ID on them anyway.
Therefore, the problem is what?
Since the vast majority of people stopped under this law will be driving cars, they are supposed to have the required ID on them anyway.
Therefore, the problem is what?
Sure it is great hardship. Especially when you know that if you happen to forget it at home and cannot produce it when asked for it, you probably will end up in jail.