Have you seen the movie Born in East LA?
It's a comedy, it's a movie, but it ain't a joke. It finds its basis in fact.
This is a law that has been long in coming, but in actual fact, it's been enforced long before it was written...;-)
Arizona's Immigration Law
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It's a comedy, it's a movie, but it ain't a joke. It finds its basis in fact.
This is a law that has been long in coming, but in actual fact, it's been enforced long before it was written...;-)
No its not illegal but Arizona is inundated with illegal aliens, crossing from Mexico and feels a need to act on it somehow. Again, you seem to be trying to conjure images of totalitarianism with the phrase "force you to show papers" but all you have to do is provide some rudimentary evidence that you are who you say you are and you're free to carry on your merry way.
I'm not conjuring up images of a totalitarian regime. The fact is, as a citizen, one is not required to carry ID and should not have to out of fear of fitting a stereotype of an illegal alien.
This is true...but sadly the state of things has reached the point where the citizens have been forced to push back.
This too is true, and I hope to see it played out with democracy in mind.
Civil liberties have overdrawn at the moral ethical bank for to long. It's time to pay service charges. And the tax payers seem resistant to footing the bill.
If anything, this should light a fire under the arse of the Federal Government, who should be dealing with the lax border to begin with.
If you are sure you are not going to get into a situation where you wished you had more I.D. then I'd say go for it and good luck..........:smile:
To be honest, I can't see them doing anything less than what Arizona already has. Anything less is just window dressing in my books.
Dude! These people are determined. I've met a kid, who actually crossed the Rio Grande at the tender age of 13. He made it all the way to Canada on his own.
You can't stop that kind of desperate determination. I admire it on its merits though.
Yep, with about a 16' high razor wire fence with about 238,000 volts running through it.
How else would they differentiate between illegal immigrants and illegal immigrants without seeing papers,
what is another way.
People want the problem addressed, but don't want the
problem addressed. If I was a different race, one that
is included in this problem, I would be glad to show my
papers anytime, no different than showing a valid drivers
licence when stopped. If one has no reason to feel guilty,
then show your papers and be happy you have them.
We all carry many cards which identify certain things about us,
not a problem to carry one more that states you are a legal citizen.
That's where the dilemma lays, how do you enforce this law without violating citizens rights? Obviously the state hasn't figured that out and the courts system will have to decide for them at some point.
Arizona has a well deserved, well established reputation as the state of morons. Arizona was the last state to recognize the MLK holiday; it got plenty of flack for that. It was reviled nationwide as a racist state, boycotts were arranged. After it suffered plenty of ridicule and lost plenty of revenue as a result of boycotts, Arizona finally decided to recognize the holiday.
As I recall, Arizona even lost the Super bowl due to MLK holiday flap. That must have really hurt, I think Super bowl generates revenues of 100 or 200 million $ for the host state.
But Arizona has a reputation for a wacky, racist state. It has been here before.
As one blogger remarked. it is difficult to make Texas look respectable, but Arizona manages that.
Quite so. Besides, who are they going to ask to pull over? Do you think they are going to ask a blue eyed blonde, or that white man in a three piece business suit to pull over and show papers? Not a chance. All the people pulled over will be brown skinned. This is a purely racist legislation; there is no getting around it.
There are ways of passing racist, sexist legislation without actually mentioning race or sex. In the old days, they wanted to exclude women from most professions. So they would advertise for police, firemen etc. with the condition that applicant must be at least 6 feet tall. That effectively kept women out, made sure that only men will apply.
It is the same here. The legislation is purely racist in nature, since we all know that only brown skinned, Hispanics will be pulled over and harassed.
This is another example of the majority putting limits on the rights of the minority, sadly a frequent occurrence in USA (as is demonstrated by gay marriage referendums).