Are you all ready to start paying about $15 for a Big Mac?

petros

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Good call on that... My belief is that while the raise is necessary, it won't do much in terms of dealing with the high cost of living in BC's lower mainland. In fact, I think that it will have a small domino effect that will leave the min wage earners only marginally ahead.
It's cheaper in SK for what JLM pays in BC for a Big Mac yet McDonalds pays over $12 an hour here Where will those who want to prosper go?
 

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Raise minimum wage prices go up, what is the gain for anyone. Stores will just pass on any increase in price to customer. What is one answer, cut back on all government controlled taxes on doing business.

 

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When minimum waage was raised to $10 in SK thousands all of a sudden became qualified to be home owners. Wow! What ****ty circumstance.
 

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It's about time BC caught up with the rest of Canada in providing a fair minimum wage. In truth, though, the only people who could live on $10.25 an hour are high school students, living at home for free.

It's not a hike in the price of the Big Mac you have to worry about. It will have a minimum effect on this, as it will represent a penny or two in added cost to the hundred burgers being slung over the period of an hour, by a McDonald's employee.

It's the manufacturing sector that now rely on subsistence wages, to compete with China and India, that will be effected. Once that sector produced the highest wages in the country, but it is now in a state of desolation.

But don't blame that on politicians with the moral backbone to demand fair wages for employees... blame it on the greedy little neoconservative farts, cramming big macs into their faces, whose libertarian, Free Trade, monetarist nonsense has brought our country to economic brink.
 

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It's cheaper in SK for what JLM pays in BC for a Big Mac yet McDonalds pays over $12 an hour here Where will those who want to prosper go?

There a a lot of contributing factors, I know that you are knowledgeable in that area so I don't need to expand further... I will say this though, I'm willing to bet that the cost of the lease/land in the lower mainland is the single largest factor that differentiates the cost base between Mc's in Sask and BC (lower mainland).... That's gotta have a huge impact on the operating costs and therefore the wage ranges.
 

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Raise minimum wage prices go up, what is the gain for anyone. Stores will just pass on any increase in price to customer. What is one answer, cut back on all government controlled taxes on doing business.

Yet you have no problem that the top US 400 billionaires have more money combined than the bottom 140 million Americans.
 

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What does that have to do with anything Avro... Do you think that there should be one solitary approved income for every working stiff in a nation?

No, a basic income for those willing to work.

People whine about the poor getting a living wage but at the same time fawn over the mega rich like they could be there one day....they won't.....they are more likely to be where the poor guy is.
 

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so, JLM, what would you do about the minimum wage?

THAT is a good question. To start with I'm against a "Carte Blanche" minimum wage and secondly I don't think it's a matter that politicians should be sticking their nose into. I don't believe a single minimum wage fits all situations. How are the likes of Christy Clark helping J.L.M. the Widget maker's employees when there is no demand for widgets or her preset minimum wage makes construction too expensive to attract custumers. If you want to set minimum wage to cover the expenses of providing for home and family, $8 an hour definitely won't do, nor will $12 an hour and I'm guessing even at $16 would be a struggle. I'm sure not one for making light of the problem, to the contrary I think the problem has gotten out of control on many fronts. Where to begin? Every consumer sitting down and making a list of what's essential, what's necessary, what's desired and what is frivious and priortising a list accordingly? But then that creates one more problem. Big Mac, A&W, Wendy and Burger King would close their doors within a week. On the positive side I see most employers as being fair minded people, if a little misguided. I can only speak for myself and putting myself into the unenviable position of working at Minimum wage for Big Mac, I would start by concentrating on improving service and looking at innovative ways of helping him improve his business, but who knows if that would work. Maybe it's a good time to get advice from Bill Gates or Warren Buffet. I'd trust either one of those two over Christy Clark. I don't know if anyone else has noticed that Christy is embarking in the footsteps of Gordon Campbell- five minutes after he was made premier he cut our Provincial income tax by 25% and everyone was ecstatic. "Fool me once- shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". LOL
 

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So why bring up the billionaires at all?

Why?

The extreme on both sides.

Why is it people get bent out of shape when we give a mimum standard of pay and at the same time not get bent out of shape at the maximum?

The minimum pay in BC has been frozen for 10 years.

Has the cost of living been frozen?

Have billionaires gone to food banks to make ends meet?

Have government employees gotten a pay freeze?

Where is the balance?
 

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Why is a Big Mac cheaper in SK JLM?

Maybe for a lot of reasons. Lower overhead? Land prices more compatible to start a business? Fewer bureaucrats? Saskatchewan may be better set up for raising the beef, slaughering the beef, inspection the beef, butchering the beef and cooking up the beef all on the same property with less shipping charges etc. Just a few guesses LOL
 

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Why?

The extreme on both sides.

Why is it people get bent out of shape when we give a mimum standard of pay and at the same time not get bent out of shape at the maximum?

The minimum pay in BC has been frozen for 10 years.

Has the cost of living been frozen?

Have billionaires gone to food banks to make ends meet?

Have government employees gotten a pay freeze?

Where is the balance?


I don't disagree with you Avro, really I don't. My position is that increasing the min wage is not a bad thing - however - it does not solve the root problem for those folks that are living on Min wage.

If the BC gvt is at all serious about delivering a genuine solution to the aforementioned problem, it would start with a deeper program of subsidized housing or offering landlords some kind of tax incentive to keep the rents down.
 

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Yet you have no problem that the top US 400 billionaires have more money combined than the bottom 140 million Americans.

Thirty or forty years ago a wise man told me that if all the money in the world was split up and divided equally, within two years, the two hundred richest people in the world would have it all back.
 

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I don't disagree with you Avro, really I don't. My position is that increasing the min wage is not a bad thing - however - it does not solve the root problem for those folks that are living on Min wage.

If the BC gvt is at all serious about delivering a genuine solution to the aforementioned problem, it would start with a deeper program of subsidized housing or offering landlords some kind of tax incentive to keep the rents down.

Color me shocked.

Can't argue with what you just said.

Housing has been one of my main concerns and something I am working on personally.

I am about to buy two small apartment buildings for this very purpose.

Thirty or forty years ago a wise man told me that if all the money in the world was split up and divided equally, within two years, the two hundred richest people in the world would have it all back.

Homilies don't solve anything.