As is the idea that fewer pedophiles would be attracted to the priesthood if they were allowed to marry. The point is, being married or not is not a factor in pedophilia.
Are Mormons Christians?
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As is the idea that fewer pedophiles would be attracted to the priesthood if they were allowed to marry. The point is, being married or not is not a factor in pedophilia.
No I didn't. I never saw it until now. I have more to do than just wait for the next post to pop up.
I would refer to him as such but what's the point of your question? Are you about to tell me that he was married and a father? Don't even go there. I never said that marriage changed a pedophile. You guys need to learn to read something if you are going to respond to it. Now it's your turn to go back and see what was said and don't just skim over the words.
Again - I NEVER SAID IT WAS! I said simply that if priests were allowed to marry it might decrease the chances of pedophiles being attracted to the priesthood. What is it that you people cannot understand? I think it's that you simply cannot understand or more likely that you refuse to. You are arguing this to protect what Karrie has to say and neither one of you is reading what I am saying. You are just picking an argument for the sake of arguing. Why!!!!!!!
OK, I'm not one of those people arguing with you here, but what I don't understand is why do you think priests being allowed to marry might decrease the chances of pedophiles being attracted to the priesthood?
I just think they would stand out a little more if they were not interested in either the same or the opposite sex and were not interested in getting married. Obviously there is the chance they would marry and appear to be a part of what everyone else is doing (or seems to be doing) regardless but I just think it`s more likely they would seek out different avenues. At this point in time, it seems like a wide open door but that`s just my opinion. Everyone of us is more likely to trust a priest than we are the average Joe. I`m of a different religion but I would still put my trust in a priest. I think pedophiles count on that. People cannot always trust a priest no matter the circumstances anymore than they can always trust a cop. The problem is - they are both the kind of people we should be able to trust. If I have not made myself clear, please feel free to ask me to clarify and I will do my best.
Come on gerry. You get it. I am only saying it gives pedophiles an open door to a place they don`t belong but are sick enough to use.
It seems to me that some people have a very narrow view of who is and who is not a Christian. I will make one thing very clear to them, however, and that is that I am not one. As a result I usually don't get involved in dogmatic discussions like this one. I am however, quite happy to become involved in a discussion of what actually defines a Christian. Just to clarify a point here is a dictionary definition of a Christian.
Chris·tian (kr
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n)adj.1. Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus's teachings.
3. Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.
4. Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents.
5. Showing a loving concern for others; humane.
n.1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.
Now it seems to me that Mormons fit all of the above parameters. It also seems to me that every one of the 2000 plus Christian sects seems to think that it alone has the one and only true Christian faith. If every Christian thought the same way then there would be only one Christian church, not thousands. Excluding any Christian group because it does not fit within the narrow parameters of one's own beliefs is simply a form of religious bigotry. Such thinking, of course is not new. It is why many Christians took such great delight in murdering, hanging, and burning one another during the European wars of religion.
Some believers may not think Mormons are Christians due to a few of their rather unusual beliefs, but I see little difference between Mormons and Roman Catholics with their religious relics and bizarre cult of saints or between Mormons and most other Christian groups.
Chris·tian (kr
2. Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus's teachings.
3. Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.
4. Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents.
5. Showing a loving concern for others; humane.
n.1. One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
2. One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.
Now it seems to me that Mormons fit all of the above parameters. It also seems to me that every one of the 2000 plus Christian sects seems to think that it alone has the one and only true Christian faith. If every Christian thought the same way then there would be only one Christian church, not thousands. Excluding any Christian group because it does not fit within the narrow parameters of one's own beliefs is simply a form of religious bigotry. Such thinking, of course is not new. It is why many Christians took such great delight in murdering, hanging, and burning one another during the European wars of religion.
Some believers may not think Mormons are Christians due to a few of their rather unusual beliefs, but I see little difference between Mormons and Roman Catholics with their religious relics and bizarre cult of saints or between Mormons and most other Christian groups.
So you think the pedophiles are less likely to get married and so would avoid the priesthood because they'd stand out as unmarried? Even if the premise were true, it still seems like you're over rationalizing.
Speak for yourself.
I'm not sure that a pedophile being married is going to reduce his propensity for little boys any more than an alcoholic being married will reduce his propensity to drink. Whatever this has to do with Mormons!
By that train of thought, little league coaches, Cub Scout leaders, etc., would not be plagued with incidents of pedophilia, because those men are allowed to marry. But, alas, they still face the same troubles.
If you figure out what she meant, let us know.
She has said that she meant that if married men were allowed to be priests, fewer pedophiles would be attracted to that vocation.
Therefore, one would have to assume that other areas of life, where married men are permitted, would have far fewer incidents of pedophiles in their ranks.
She has said that she meant that if married men were allowed to be priests, fewer pedophiles would be attracted to that vocation.
Therefore, one would have to assume that other areas of life, where married men are permitted, would have far fewer incidents of pedophiles in their ranks.
One line of many.
Try it this way. How many good non-pedophiles who have what it takes to be great a priest can't because they are married?
Try it this way. How many good non-pedophiles who have what it takes to be great a priest can't because they are married?
That's an issue to be sure, but, married men who can't be priests aren't all good... there are pedophiles in that mix too. So would it change the rates of pedophiles wearing clerical robes?