Anybody e;se feel like this?

[petros]

"The world is doomed and I'm the only one who sees it so I'll rage" is not a broad view.

 

[Cliffy]

"The world is doomed and I'm the only one who sees it so I'll rage" is not a broad view.

That that is what you see, is more telling about you - mirror image and all. Your understanding of psychology is rather lame.

Your opinion is of no consequence to anybody but you.

 

[Twila]

I gravitated toward native spirituality simple because it made more sense in that situation. But I also had time to study many other religious ans spiritual paths from around the world, so my personal views are much broader than any single point of view.

My ex was a heroin addict. He spent 20 years in and out of juvie and prison. It was his last stint in where he was invited to a healing ceremony in the rez. After the healing ceremony he was invited to learn carving.

After he finished his sentence, he continued to draw, and carve. He has now been out of jail for over 5yrs working full time and tattooing part time. I do not think he would have been able to kick the habits of a lifetime without the understanding, acceptance and councelling of the prison rez.

 

[petros]

 

[EagleSmack]

To be fair, it's a struggle getting to and from work alive each day....weekends doing the running around I'm surprised I've survived...and not killed anyone...

Although I did run over a guy at Costco the other day...well his foot...with my cart. But he backed up weirdly and so basically his foot went under my cart...really his fault. I thought he was going to cry.



yeah, but considering how many people of our times can't walk further then a block without needing a nap or oxygen....

Getting to and from work is hardly a struggle these days. We joke and laugh about it but come on. The Pre Colombian days, Colonial Era, etc. were a struggle from day to day for the average person just to survive.

But that doesn't make the people of those days stronger and hardier. They were actually weaker, had poorer diets, etc. They were people of their time.

And if one of those kick butt apocalypses happen people would survive.

 

[Twila]

Getting to and from work is hardly a struggle these days. We joke and laugh about it but come on. The Pre Colombian days, Colonial Era, etc. were a struggle from day to day for the average person just to survive.

But that doesn't make the people of those days stronger and hardier. They were actually weaker, had poorer diets, etc. They were people of their time.

And if one of those kick butt apocalypses happen people would survive.

Eagle, I invite you to drive in Vancouver...or better yet Richmond.

But seriously, I know what you're saying.

 

[Cliffy]

My ex was a heroin addict. He spent 20 years in and out of juvie and prison. It was his last stint in where he was invited to a healing ceremony in the rez. After the healing ceremony he was invited to learn carving.

After he finished his sentence, he continued to draw, and carve. He has now been out of jail for over 5yrs working full time and tattooing part time. I do not think he would have been able to kick the habits of a lifetime without the understanding, acceptance and councelling of the prison rez.

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[EagleSmack]

Eagle, I invite you to drive in Vancouver...or better yet Richmond.

But seriously, I know what you're saying.

I drive in Boston... that should be enough said.

 

[JLM]

Why were they hardier?

Possibly for two main reasons- first the weak got eliminated in the first year or two of life and second living required much more physical activity. We live more years now but dependent on more people and generally become a bigger pain in the A$$ to people, we need more pills, more elevators and wheel chair ramps and a whole crew delivering meals on wheels etc. We are alive in the clinical sense but for all intents and purposes "dead from the A$$hole both ways". Our final ten years will likely be spent being propped up playing bingo games with a network of wires, hoses and tubes.

 

[Twila]

I drive in Boston... that should be enough said.

I've never driven in Boston. Is it bad? Cause I can tell you people in Richmond don't know how to drive. They have the highest ICBC premiums in the lower mainland...

 

[Cliffy]

Possibly for two main reasons- first the weak got eliminated in the first year or two of life and second living required much more physical activity. We live more years now but dependent on more people and generally become a bigger pain in the A$$ to people, we need more pills, more elevators and wheel chair ramps and a whole crew delivering meals on wheels etc. We are alive in the clinical sense but for all intents and purposes "dead from the A$$hole both ways". Our final ten years will likely be spent being propped up playing bingo games with a network of wires, hoses and tubes.

Speak for yourself, old man. Me, I'm going out in a blaze of glory: either on my motorcycle or in the saddle of some hot Latino chickita. I haven't given the powers that be any other options.

 

[cj44]

JLM,
You're a real ray of sunshine.

 

[EagleSmack]

Possibly for two main reasons- first the weak got eliminated in the first year or two of life and second living required much more physical activity. We live more years now but dependent on more people and generally become a bigger pain in the A$$ to people, we need more pills, more elevators and wheel chair ramps and a whole crew delivering meals on wheels etc. We are alive in the clinical sense but for all intents and purposes "dead from the A$$hole both ways". Our final ten years will likely be spent being propped up playing bingo games with a network of wires, hoses and tubes.

We just have more stuff and conveniences.

 

[cj44]

Adversity builds character and strength of spirit. We may live longer lives but I think they lived fuller lives. When I lived in the forest, I didn't spend 1/4 the time to maintain my needs that I do in "civilization". I was never sick, I had ten times more energy.

CLiffy - I thought you were living in the forest now. Did you return to the concrete jungle?

 

[JLM]

yeah, but considering how many people of our times can't walk further then a block without needing a nap or oxygen....

So true, Twila, I walk in town here 3 or 4 times a week and it's really disturbing to see all the people in their 40s and 50s, struggling just to walk and mostly at least 50 lbs. over weight. A lot of them are sitting on the sidewalk beside their caps waiting for spare change.........what an existence for a young person!

 

[petros]

Abundances of food is our biggest blessing.

 

[JLM]

JLM,
You're a real ray of sunshine.

Yeah, I try to maintain a healthy outlook!

Abundances of food is our biggest blessing.

Yep, eating it is our main downfall! -

Speak for yourself, old man. Me, I'm going out in a blaze of glory: either on my motorcycle or in the saddle of some hot Latino chickita. I haven't given the powers that be any other options.

"Old man" - - - What am I? Three years older than you?

Eagle, I invite you to drive in Vancouver...or better yet Richmond.

But seriously, I know what you're saying.

I've driven a fair amount in Richmond over the years! Got tired of dodging those damn rickshaws! -

 

[petros]

Yeah, I try to maintain a healthy outlook!




Yep, eating it is our main downfall! -




"Old man" - - - What am I? Three years older than you?




I've driven a fair amount in Richmond over the years! Got tired of dodging those damn rickshaws! -

Abundance of food gives you more free time, energy, a stronger immune system and more intelligence. Eating too much is a matter of self control.

 

[JLM]

We just have more stuff and conveniences.

That's what's killing us!

They were actually weaker, had poorer diets, etc. They were people of their time.

And if one of those kick butt apocalypses happen people would survive.

You have to be joking, man!!!! Read the food labels. Check the salt and sugar content of what we eat. How many pizza outlets do you have in your town? We have at least 10 in a medium sized city. That should tell you something. Two glasses of pop a day provides more than the recommended sugar dosage. How many people are on medication for high blood pressure? Most of that is caused from salt consumption. Our diets today are as poor as they can possibly get unless you make a conscious effort to modify them drastically. If you drink coffee at A & W you get 18% cream to add to it. Why do you think the cardiac department at any hospital has long line ups for by passes? It's the sh*t we eat and the hours lying on the couch!

 

[Twila]

Abundance of food gives you more free time, energy, a stronger immune system and more intelligence. Eating too much is a matter of self control.

Do we really have more energy, more free time, a stronger immune system? What with the constant technological distractions, 14hr+ work day (at the office, more if you include the commute) the amount of processed foods that offer very little in the way of nutrition, Pop (diabetes in a bottle)? I think it might be a toss up.

We now work twice as long to pay other people to do the "chores" we use to do ourselves.