And you're the only mod here. He may be a bit paranoid. Aren't there drugs for stuff like that?
Antidepressants Alleged in another brutal slaying
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And you're the only mod here. He may be a bit paranoid. Aren't there drugs for stuff like that?
Forum features don't completely unlock until you hit around the magic number of fifty posts, to prevent the spamming of the forum. If you've got a post missing, it likely auto-moderated due to excessive link posting for a member with so few posts.
I did two weeks on Champix/Chantix. Waking up screaming in horror was something I didn't enjoy. Jesus Christ!
Telling ya man... that Karrie is just like a drug. Makes it all go away... even for just a moment.
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Now, as to the topic at hand.
Anytime someone starts psychiatric care, it can be very difficult to tell the difference between what the medication did, and what the medication failed to prevent. Historically speaking, well before the existence of SSRI's, one of the leading causes of death for women, is the fathers of their children. Many, many men snap at the prospect of losing their families. And the toddler years are a time of great chaos and upset in families. Nothing about his case sounds unusual.
In condemning antidepressant use, you have to be exceedingly careful, because for every splashy case that you think you can pin a death on their usage., there are even more cases where someone is alive because of them. I've seen plenty of people who can not function without them. And this is coming from someone who was coerced onto them for chronic pain, and suffered a suicidal break due to them.
What you're saying about anti-d's isn't false persay, but it is exaggerated and doesn't apply as broadly as you seem to think it does.
Now, as to the topic at hand.
Anytime someone starts psychiatric care, it can be very difficult to tell the difference between what the medication did, and what the medication failed to prevent. Historically speaking, well before the existence of SSRI's, one of the leading causes of death for women, is the fathers of their children. Many, many men snap at the prospect of losing their families. And the toddler years are a time of great chaos and upset in families. Nothing about his case sounds unusual.
In condemning antidepressant use, you have to be exceedingly careful, because for every splashy case that you think you can pin a death on their usage., there are even more cases where someone is alive because of them. I've seen plenty of people who can not function without them. And this is coming from someone who was coerced onto them for chronic pain, and suffered a suicidal break due to them.
What you're saying about anti-d's isn't false persay, but it is exaggerated and doesn't apply as broadly as you seem to think it does.
I've heard.
The nicotine patches work... but you crave the patch. I tried that route once. You are rolling one addiction to the other.
Cold Turkey... as scary as it sounds it is the best way.
Dear Political Nick,
Sadly these type of drugs are given for just about anything.. (docs are paid $$$ kickbacks for prescribing them) but I have heard many people have success stories when they decided to quit..
( I have heard many say nicorettes worked for them along with determination)..
good luck with it..
I got pissed off and that was it. It was hell for a week or two. After that i was all proud and went to Dr so it's on file for health insurance people and she pipes up and says " you should have told me, I would have given you benzos which make it really easy". If I had of known that I would have done it years ago.
Maybe you should try some.Someone is on a crusade........
Or hates windmills.....
Then you could be like Mike Tyson and say "I'm on da Zoloft to keep from killin' ya'll".
Hi Karrie,
I appreciate your reply, which I suspect is not off limits to explore..
I want to tell you that the stats of men killing their spouses was generated in the 80's..... when antidepressants were out.
I also want to mention that those stats you refer too (are not adjusted for wrongful convictions and there are tonnes of those too.) Those stats are also compiled by bias reports where no charges were ever laid but the "person of interest" is incorporated in the stats. (Different topic completely)
Many of us were taught from a very young age that `Doctor knows best`and sadly many doctor are uninformed about these drugs...
Many doctors will tell you that they are not addictive and only cause sie effects in very rare situation. That said I have oodles of respect for people who give their lives to try and make others have better lives but we need to do our own research.
If you look at so many of these violent homicidal suicidal tragedies it is not uncommon for the perps to have always been kind gentle, wonderful people... That is inconsistant with their desperate violent attack to take lives. In these cases, it is more plausible to be able to make the calculation that it isnt difficult to know whether it was the drug or the person.... but many of society is uneducated about the known side effects of these drugs that clearly state delusion, loss of reality agression violence suicidal and homicidal ideation...which by the way are not denied from the pharmaceutical companies. They put leaflets in the drug box admitting that these side affects CAN occur.
There are many reputable blind and double blind studies that have found that antidepressanst dont work. The placebo effect is what is working not the drug.
I will agree that the big question should be...why do some people have the sie affects and others dont...
The general public has the idea that so many heinous acts of violence were done without antidepressants in the mix, because the media is not asking the questions to the witnesses, and then the perps families are so beat up by society that they dont have the energy to soea about these drugs and how they feel they caused the violence.
If we all started looking at the studies and the increased violence we would see that there is no exaggeration in whether or not these pils are contributing big time to the violence we all read about everyday.. Unless society starts demanding toxicology reports and medical history from every similar incident.. how will we get the truth?
In similar crimes like this, the tox and medical reports are kept in the criminal investigation file folder which is confidential even from the families.
The only time these eports become public is if charges were laid... In most cases if the perp didnt die too, the courts seal the reports from the public and we still never know..
PN... do not take nicorettes or the nicoderm or any of that. You will crave that just as much. You are substituting one addiction to the other. My buddies father chews nicotine gum like crazy and has for years. Granted it is safer than nicotine but that craving is still there.
You need to liberate yourself and let your body WIN on its own.
Like Petros said... TWO WEEKS. Honestly... that is it. About 14 days.
I think you chose the right way. You did it w/o drugs. It is a wild two weeks but as the cravings soften you probably wondered why you took so long. At least I did.
I remember reading before hand that eventually you won't have any desire at all for it.
The ONLY thing to watch out for is the triggers and that is all mental and not physical.
Some can handle it others can't.
The probability for switched on mania/hypomania is dangerously high.
Dear Nick,
Its not a secret that docs receive kickbacks for writing prescriptions for these drugs. If you type kickbacks and antidepressants in google ..you will find how many lawsuits there have been as well as how many doctors admit full well to this..
I will provide one link... (lawsuit against GlaxoSmith...2012)
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"In addition, GSK has been found guilty of paying kickbacks to doctors. "
BBC News - GlaxoSmithKline to pay $3bn in US drug fraud scandal
This is about some. Not all and makes it clear that it is an unlawful practice. You make it sound as if all doctors receive kick backs from all pharmacy companies.