Anti-American prejudice.
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Sweden also lacked the fortitude to stand up against Nazism and Communism, preferring to sit on the fence and hope the last ones standing would respect their neutrality. No thank you.
That's my job pal, forget it.
Damn...Canadians get all the breaks.
Screw it then...I hold to my first response... Mushroom Clouds for everyone! Starting with Sweeden...they must think they are above us all and we can't have that.
Kind of reminds me of Caligula when he was executing a Roman officer. He called out that he was always loyal to Caligula and Caligula said...
"That is true... but always being loyal makes you a bad Roman and therefore a traitor to Rome."
Fine, so they're not perfect either. It still doesn't change the fact that today, instead of criticising former imperial powers, it continues to give 1% of its GDP to help developing countries even though Sweden itself never contributed to their harm.
And here we go again, criticizing another country. Instead of pointing fingrs at the US or Sweden for this or that, let's just do what's right and make out contribution to the world. So we criticize Sweden for its non-involvement with the Nazis. Do the Swedes stand there criticizing Canada's involvement in the Boer Wars, or our treatment of natives? No, it just minds its business and does what it can to help the world. Let's stop pointing fingers at each other and just work together.Let him who is without sin...
To me its not a question of "sin" or "no sin". Its more an issue of learning from your mistakes, and I'm not pointing fingers saying who is better or worse. Sure the UK, US, Canada et al have made mistakes: we need to learn from them, not repeat them and move on. To me that doesn't mean walking away from your ideas of what is right and wrong.
Machjo, you held up Sweden as an example that was "better" than our countries, and I say its not. I brought up Sweden's lack of fortitude in dealing with the Nazis and it you go farther back, it was a home to some of the viking fleets that terrorized northern Europe for a couple decades, so its not like their history is more (or less) pristine than anyone elses. It is what it is. They have some traits worthy of emulation, as do we all but they have their "faults" too.
Machjo, you held up Sweden as an example that was "better" than our countries, and I say its not. I brought up Sweden's lack of fortitude in dealing with the Nazis and it you go farther back, it was a home to some of the viking fleets that terrorized northern Europe for a couple decades, so its not like their history is more (or less) pristine than anyone elses. It is what it is. They have some traits worthy of emulation, as do we all but they have their "faults" too.
All very reasonable Machjo and at face value I can find no fault with your vision whatever. Except for the monster assumption that we will ever be permitted to work together. I have no idea why you continually discount the real power and continue to insist on the obvious truth of cooperative efforts without realizing that this has been the ultimate goal of socialists for hundreds of years and always the limiting force has been the same privilaged hierarchy. I suggest to you that now we will no more be allowed by the ruleing hierarchy to institute that kind of social culture than we have been in the past. You will labour long and hard toward social justice and accomplish no lasting benevolent change before you remove that hierarchy of wealth. Look at the statistics on wealth distribution and you'll see the problem clear and simple. Either you address that or you'll waste a lifetime in futile patching of the capitalist system that was designed in the beginning, from the top down, to jam the gears of any aspirations of free unimpeded social progress.
Your Boer war crack is laughable we don't have to view our crimes against humanity from such a great distance in time when we (Canada) are #6 in arms production and sales. While we support the occupation and subjugation of whatever nations we are told to by that ruling hierarchy we will never be free.
The crushing collapse of the global capitalist economy is in progress this minute and you are right we are tied to that giant floundering anchor (USA) which was and continues to be the biggest mistake this nation ever made. If you want to help the less fortunate of the world you can do no greater service for them than to abandon your idealisms about the present economic system and those who own it, without that you will join the hundreds of thousands of good people who were crushed by it.
We have suffered and continue to suffer because of American fascist policy but that is nothing compared to what's coming before this year is out. We,Canadians, are entirely expendable to the purposes of the USA and we will come to understand that totally during the next decade.
quoting machjo
"In the end, working together to make a better world is the only way to go. The progress of each is dependent on the progress of all in this integrated world of ours."
From my perspective that is beautiful sentiment Machjo and ultimately a true and benevolent path for all good people but you must realize it is the most frightening and threatening sentence ever heard by the privilaged class of wealth and the history just the last hundred years should tell you how far they are prepared to go to hold on to that power. you have a good day sir:smile:
To Darkbeaver: Any concrete incremental step you could recommend that most would likely support at least in principle?
Okay, once again, I ask: why hasn't the world united to kill all the yankee imperialists if they are so loathed?
Anti -American prejudice from Canadians will continue because it is easy and the. U.S is not going to react.
Considering the incompetent corrupt govts. we Canadians keep electing, we should shut up.
Yep. The whining of the client states is just something that goes with the territory.
Naaah ..He's just self flagellating because some snowflakes here elected the shiny pony two terms in a row...
But out your way the redneck brigade might elect Trump for a second term....
Although some of the nicest Americans I met a Bluegrass festivals must have been rednecks because some people call bluegrass music redneck music..
But out your way the redneck brigade might elect Trump for a second term....
Although some of the nicest Americans I met a Bluegrass festivals must have been rednecks because some people call bluegrass music redneck music..