When did this have anything to do with government? It started when a bunch of LGBTQ activists got angry about the restaurant giving money to anti-gay groups. Nothing to do with the government.
Another triumph for the Right
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When did this have anything to do with government? It started when a bunch of LGBTQ activists got angry about the restaurant giving money to anti-gay groups. Nothing to do with the government.
Did the restaurant give money to homphobes or was it one man who gave his personal funds to homophobes? Accuracy is really important because it has consequences.
Of course, I said nothing about freedom of speech. People can be as bigoted as they want. I'm still going to mock them for it. And in the future, when they regret their bigotry because it will make them seem ignorant, they've still got freedom of speech.
It's the non-profit arm of the company that donated money, money that is gets from people patronizing the company, to groups like the American Family Association, dubbed an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, and Exodus International, a group whose mission is to turn gay people straight.
The restaurant: Chick-Fil-A Donated Nearly $2 Million To Anti-Gay Groups In 2009 | Equality Matters
So are the consequences more severe if it was the restaurant or a man?
To eat fat is the American Dream?
I doubt there are any consequences... and they probably got a tax deduction.
It's not about homosexual marriage? There would be no story here at all if the CEO hadn't made comments about...homosexual marriage. It's about a lot of things. Freedom of speech, government interference, in both private matters like marriage and business.
Agreed. I asked because I wondered why BaalsTears thought it was so important. I want to know why it was "really important" to distinguish.
Is your objective to silence opposing views?
Before I retired I was, among other things, a tax attorney. What you've posted is not true. Tax exempt status cannot be recognized for organizations which are act as the nonprofit arm of for profit companies.
SPLC is agenda driven. That means it is biased as are all agenda driven organizations. Don't be overly impressed by people who hold multiple advanced degrees. I've never heard of Exodus International.
I don't believe your source. Can you provide a neutral source?
I don't understand your question. Would you please rephrase it? Thank you.
The attached Form 990-PF does not mention Chick fil A as a source of funding. Winshape Foundation is a garden variety estate planning device used by the Cathy family. The Cathy family is not Chick fil A. Winshape Foundation is not Chick fil A.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is separate and distinct from Microsoft. The same is true with Chick fil A and the Winshape Foundation.
Discrimination is prohibited in America. However, speech and thought are sacrosanct in America.
In theory they do ~ "equal protection" clause.
Ironically, many right wingers who claim to always go by principle seem to conveniently ignore that.
There's a lot of truth in that. I'm a right winger. That's why I support LGBTQ civil rights. I don't approach this subject as a matter of emotion.
Imo true conservative thinking requires strict adherence to the philosophical ideal of individual liberty, and the legal principle of equal protection.
There are many component parts comprising the classical liberal ideal of individual liberty. Personal autonomy is one of those component parts. There can be no exceptions to the application of this concept. Thus, LGBTQ people must have personal autonomy.
Similarly, the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution brooks no limitation on the application of equal justice. This is the position of the eminent conservative attorney Ted Olson who argued the Proposition 8 case in the trial court. Any conservative who believes in the rule of law must acknowledge that the 14th Amendment does not say "except for gay people" in its requirement of equal application of the law. In the absence of such an exception the language demanding equal justice must be taken at face value.
Taking another look at this I am more saddened thatn anything else. America used
to understand what was gong on in the world. America used to believe in the ideals
of freedom and justice, at least that was the dream. America used to provide solutions
and positive alternatives to the debate on issues of the day. The dream was to lift
people up, remember give us you huddled masses etc?
Look what they have become A place of division, derision, polarized hatred of each other.
America without confidence and without a lick of sense believing the world centers around
them and Jesus. The political right is seen to be scoffing at positive solutions, generosity
has been replaced by the belief that money conquers all even at the expense of each other.
They would rather call each other names and belittle the neighbour's individual beliefs than
to work together to solve the problems that can sink the entire nation.
Chicken sales based on hating one group of people in a society. Doesn't matter such
actions and antics only has me losing my appetite.
to understand what was gong on in the world. America used to believe in the ideals
of freedom and justice, at least that was the dream. America used to provide solutions
and positive alternatives to the debate on issues of the day. The dream was to lift
people up, remember give us you huddled masses etc?
Look what they have become A place of division, derision, polarized hatred of each other.
America without confidence and without a lick of sense believing the world centers around
them and Jesus. The political right is seen to be scoffing at positive solutions, generosity
has been replaced by the belief that money conquers all even at the expense of each other.
They would rather call each other names and belittle the neighbour's individual beliefs than
to work together to solve the problems that can sink the entire nation.
Chicken sales based on hating one group of people in a society. Doesn't matter such
actions and antics only has me losing my appetite.
In no way does Chick-Fil-A discriminate against, or oppress anyone for their sexual orientation. In fact, they treat everyone the same way, according to the "Golden Rule".
And, the Bible specifically condemns homosexual activity. So, the owner of this chain is just following his religious obligations, when he opposes Gay marriage.
Denial of "Marriage" to gays in no way oppresses them.
How do you resolve your statement with the other statement, given that quotes like that were once said, the bible was used as evidence for them (whether it supports it or not Loving v. Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), and it is now widely accepted to be false?
Actually the right wants governments to spend within their means.
They believe our present course going to be detrimental to their children and grandchildren.
For years we have watched governments chase positive solutions at huge cost with little or no
results.And as far as I can tell the most vile name calling comes from the other side.
Ironically they do not- The main basis used for Marriage is directly from Religious beliefs- So States and the Feds are violating the Constitution.Religion interfering with the States and Federal laws. Those that define Marriage as Male - Female are basing this upon Religion.
Next- Pension- Medical benefits- Rights to inherit pensions when a spouse dies. All of these are rights that Gays are prohibited from in many States. And that just names a few.
