Angus Reid Poll
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Just one question.... How come security for the Royal Wedding is projected to be around $33 million?
I hope Jack has the balls to tell the World Bank where they can go. We have our own bank at low interest. Why are we borrowing at high interest from international bankers? We could drop a considerable amount of the dept just by borrowing from ourselves and paying off the international parasites. Drop the exorbitant jet deal and shop around for a better one. Both the Libs and Cons have sold us down the river.
Bring it on home jack!
Bring it on home jack!
Hence the icing.
Why do you think Iggy has been buttering up Quebec?
I would prefer not having that icing, the extortion from the bloc would reach record levels.
Iggy is desperate, he'd probably sell him self for a 5% jump in the polls right now.
That's it?
Why the hell did our governemnt spend over a billion on the G8 summit then?
What great money managers they are.:roll:
We still don't know how much of that went to some pals of Tony Clement either.
Glad to see the youth getting involved. Thanks Steve for showing them your ugly side and making them wake up to the importance of elections. Now you're beginning to feel the power of their numbers. Lets see them come out in droves to support the NDP and kick these old boys out on their condescending behinds. I want, no I DEMAND my Canada back.
May the power of the stache prevail!!!
May the power of the stache prevail!!!
There might be some truth to that.
I would guess most of the youth are not that clued in as far as the party platforms are concerned, although I would hope they become more informed. So they are basing their decisions on looks more than substance. It's that old Hollywood thing ya know. And so Jack with the stache comes across as more virile and trustworthy to them.
Harper's plastic hair (ala DEVO) and Iggy's wandering eyebrows do not a Hollywood star make.
You are right, bill barilko, advance polling numbers are really up from what I hear. That is great news. Wonderful to see the Canadian electorate so engaged. Do hope the numbers stay high for the May 2 vote.
If Layton became Prime Minister he would find himself in the same boat as any other Prime Minister with a minority government - stong opposions will block most of what he wants to do. He'll end up getting blamed for not keeping his promises and doing things he didn't want to do BECAUSE the opposition forced it to be that way. . Just like Harper!!!!!
Harper was against going into debt for bailouts. Guess who forced him to do it?? The opposition.
That's why minority government doesn't work and neither will a coalition.
Harper was against going into debt for bailouts. Guess who forced him to do it?? The opposition.
That's why minority government doesn't work and neither will a coalition.
Iggy, a Canadian version of Jimmy Carter. Michael Ignatieff became known in the U.S. as one of the high-profile liberals who supported the 2003 Iraq invasion, citing Saddam Hussein's human rights crimes. Been out of the country to long. That is all I know about him. Good luck with the elections.
Getting back to JLM's point about the seat count, there is a real possibility of a 100 seats.
I have been working on this very hard, as I will be part of a radio panel on election night.
If you look at popular vote vs translation to seats, you begin to see the pattern of where
those seats will come from. Quebec will deliver I think anywhere from 25 to 30 seats.
Ontario, will see the NDP pick up some of those Liberal seats as they fight the Tories and
New Democrats come up the middle. The Green vote is spread very thin across the
country for their 7% but NDP strength is developing in all five regions. Look for considerable
gains in suburban Ontario and in the core of cities. The Conservatives have their base true
but like BC they will be under pressure from the NDP this time and that leaves some of those
seats vulnerable to Liberals coming up the middle as the two front runners split and this is
where the Tories are having trouble. Watch where they plug the leadership into those riding's
on the weekend.
On the Prairie, Manitoba will give the NDP some help, I predict Saskatchewan will be good for
two or three, and Alberta may deliver one more. BC is a battlefield for sure, as the NDP and the
Conservatives fight it out not for first and second place but for actual seats. A surge like this
is a signal that some of the vote split will favor the NDP this time, instead of the Conservatives.
One other thing should be pointed out here, the Liberals as of Sunday are showing signs of
imploding. A fall from 25 or 26% in about three or four days shows the soft vote is leaving the
Liberals. They are at 22%. If that happens the Liberal left is going NDP. What will the soft
right do? I predict it will go to the New Democrats, the Greens or just stay home. This is too
bitter a campaign for the Liberals to actually translate votes into Conservative support.
On the Eastern Seaboard, the NDP will make gains, but it depends on what the Liberal vote
does, whether the Liberals hang onto what they have. here Conservatives could actually pick
up a few in the vote split.
The real questions are for after the election. If the Liberals implode, where do the Paul Martin's
and the right wing of the party go? My view, to the Conservatives. If the Liberals collapse
and have fewer than 70 seats their come back will be difficult. Many of their leading figures will
be gone, their leadership broken and their money supply will dwindle. This is a serious crossroad
for the party. Here is what happens when you install a leader that does not have the grassroots
of the party fully engaged. I will say that Mr Harper and Jack Layton both enjoy the support of their
party members and to one extent or another, the general public. Ignatieff, on the other hand has
no allegiance from the public or his own party. The only thing Iggy had was the arrogance to
believe the masses didn't matter they would just follow because he was leading them with
intellect. Politics is about opinion, intellect and passion which of course brings in blind ignorance.
So that is where we are. Yes I still think Harper will have more seats, the NDP will be second,
and the Liberals third, but there won't be a coalition of any kind until Iggy is gone at least.
Now we all have something to argue about on this thread.
I have been working on this very hard, as I will be part of a radio panel on election night.
If you look at popular vote vs translation to seats, you begin to see the pattern of where
those seats will come from. Quebec will deliver I think anywhere from 25 to 30 seats.
Ontario, will see the NDP pick up some of those Liberal seats as they fight the Tories and
New Democrats come up the middle. The Green vote is spread very thin across the
country for their 7% but NDP strength is developing in all five regions. Look for considerable
gains in suburban Ontario and in the core of cities. The Conservatives have their base true
but like BC they will be under pressure from the NDP this time and that leaves some of those
seats vulnerable to Liberals coming up the middle as the two front runners split and this is
where the Tories are having trouble. Watch where they plug the leadership into those riding's
on the weekend.
On the Prairie, Manitoba will give the NDP some help, I predict Saskatchewan will be good for
two or three, and Alberta may deliver one more. BC is a battlefield for sure, as the NDP and the
Conservatives fight it out not for first and second place but for actual seats. A surge like this
is a signal that some of the vote split will favor the NDP this time, instead of the Conservatives.
One other thing should be pointed out here, the Liberals as of Sunday are showing signs of
imploding. A fall from 25 or 26% in about three or four days shows the soft vote is leaving the
Liberals. They are at 22%. If that happens the Liberal left is going NDP. What will the soft
right do? I predict it will go to the New Democrats, the Greens or just stay home. This is too
bitter a campaign for the Liberals to actually translate votes into Conservative support.
On the Eastern Seaboard, the NDP will make gains, but it depends on what the Liberal vote
does, whether the Liberals hang onto what they have. here Conservatives could actually pick
up a few in the vote split.
The real questions are for after the election. If the Liberals implode, where do the Paul Martin's
and the right wing of the party go? My view, to the Conservatives. If the Liberals collapse
and have fewer than 70 seats their come back will be difficult. Many of their leading figures will
be gone, their leadership broken and their money supply will dwindle. This is a serious crossroad
for the party. Here is what happens when you install a leader that does not have the grassroots
of the party fully engaged. I will say that Mr Harper and Jack Layton both enjoy the support of their
party members and to one extent or another, the general public. Ignatieff, on the other hand has
no allegiance from the public or his own party. The only thing Iggy had was the arrogance to
believe the masses didn't matter they would just follow because he was leading them with
intellect. Politics is about opinion, intellect and passion which of course brings in blind ignorance.
So that is where we are. Yes I still think Harper will have more seats, the NDP will be second,
and the Liberals third, but there won't be a coalition of any kind until Iggy is gone at least.
Now we all have something to argue about on this thread.
My biggest worry with this kind of change up is some parallel to the U.S. - where we replace a completely ass-backwards government with one that is simply stagnant.
We are on the verge of some kind of change, but what that change is no one seems to
know at this point. There are so many variables and vote splits, I do predict no one will
have a majority, because except for the very few, no one wants to give anyone a blank
check at this point. How do we know this, look at the polls and the individual races going
on across the country. Whether we are Liberal, Conservative or New Democrat we are
very nervous about giving our own party or some other party a majority. I think caution is
a good thing, but it is also a sad commentary on the state of our country. We have to
put the hand of the business of running our country into someones hands yet we do not
have the confidence of anyone to entrust the task to.
When this happens, we either hunker down with what we have or opt for massive change
in hopes of cleaning house. This time however we want both change and security at the
same time. The result, we will likely keep Harper with a minority for a check and balance
and go for massive political change one rung down the ladder as we ponder our future
and the countries future course.
know at this point. There are so many variables and vote splits, I do predict no one will
have a majority, because except for the very few, no one wants to give anyone a blank
check at this point. How do we know this, look at the polls and the individual races going
on across the country. Whether we are Liberal, Conservative or New Democrat we are
very nervous about giving our own party or some other party a majority. I think caution is
a good thing, but it is also a sad commentary on the state of our country. We have to
put the hand of the business of running our country into someones hands yet we do not
have the confidence of anyone to entrust the task to.
When this happens, we either hunker down with what we have or opt for massive change
in hopes of cleaning house. This time however we want both change and security at the
same time. The result, we will likely keep Harper with a minority for a check and balance
and go for massive political change one rung down the ladder as we ponder our future
and the countries future course.
If the NDP can act as the public security dog and make sure we don't have any more bone-headed expenditures coming from the right then I'm all for it.
It will depend on the kind of NDP Jack Layton is. If he is a progressive with a conservative
fiscal vent it would be the best of both worlds. Saskatchewan is one Province in Canada
where the NDP governed for a long time and their fiscal policy was just that progressive
with Fiscal Conservative policy. When they were in the last time under Romanow and
Lorne Calvert, they produced sixteen balanced budgets in a row in good times and bad,
so why would we be afraid? The federal conservatives haven't produced one balanced
budget in the five years they have been in power. In fact they have told us themselves they
won't have a balanced budget until 2014. The bright side is we will have some new fighter
jets, all be it, without engines. Maybe we can park them near those British Subs we bought
that are not dependable, or maybe we can put on the same tab as the choppers we cancelled.
We have these glaring mistakes and bungled orders and we are worried about what Jack
Layton might do? It is time to think about this in terms of reality, the NDP might even be less
of a problem than we have now and most Canadians are waking up to that fact.
fiscal vent it would be the best of both worlds. Saskatchewan is one Province in Canada
where the NDP governed for a long time and their fiscal policy was just that progressive
with Fiscal Conservative policy. When they were in the last time under Romanow and
Lorne Calvert, they produced sixteen balanced budgets in a row in good times and bad,
so why would we be afraid? The federal conservatives haven't produced one balanced
budget in the five years they have been in power. In fact they have told us themselves they
won't have a balanced budget until 2014. The bright side is we will have some new fighter
jets, all be it, without engines. Maybe we can park them near those British Subs we bought
that are not dependable, or maybe we can put on the same tab as the choppers we cancelled.
We have these glaring mistakes and bungled orders and we are worried about what Jack
Layton might do? It is time to think about this in terms of reality, the NDP might even be less
of a problem than we have now and most Canadians are waking up to that fact.