America’s Shame

Francis2004

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Unfortunately history has a habit of repeating itself, no matter how noble your original intentions are.

"Combatants captured and held by the United States as a result of its operations in Afghanistan against the Taliban government and Al Qaeda forces were not recognized as prisoners of war by the Bush administration and were termed “unlawful combatants” instead."

I can sort of understand how the Taliban could be considered prisoners of war (they were the Afghan goverment at the time, but we did treat them the same) but the Al Qaeda were and are not part of any goverment, just terrorists. Now how should ordinary mass serial killers be treated?


Is it not War on terrorism ? Let me emphasize WAR ?

A human is a human whether he is fighting for one cause or another.. You do not stop hatred by making it worse.. Russia showed it could not be done and the US, via the CIA, trained the Taliban ( Al Qaeda ) on all these great ways they now use against us.. Thanks


Al-Qaeda has attacked civilian and military targets in various countries, the most notable being the September 11 attacks in 2001. These actions were followed by the US government launching a military and intelligence campaign against al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations called the War on Terror. As of 2009, the group is believed to have between 200 and 300 members.

The Afghan Mujahedeen of the 1980s have been alleged to be the inspiration for terrorist groups in nations such as Indonesia, the Philippines, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Chechnya, and the former Yugoslavia. According to Russian sources, the perpetrators of the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 allegedly used a manual allegedly written by the CIA for the Mujihadeen fighters in Afghanistan on how to make explosives.

Al-Qaeda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Liberalman

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"I was only following orders."

As far as war criminals the whole population of United States of America should be put on trial because they elected the Republicans for a second term.

Just like in nazi Germany the population knew that the SS was killing Jews but did nothing because they were afraid, but the world blamed the German citizens for many years.

Will the world blame America maybe not, because they make the best darn apple pie anywhere.

Americans are famous for their sugarcoated propaganda so the world will forgive them besides they like to spread the money around so they will be hailed as heroes

Like in nazi Germany their citizens were afraid of the SS and in America their citizens were afraid of the Patriot Act and the Republican thugs of the NRA.

Unfortunately history always repeats itself and always will.

Will Obama be different? One can hope, but power will always creep in and corrupt the fabric of the soul


 

ironsides

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War is but only one option.. Escalation of War and is showing disregard for human life and humanity. If you cannot be respected how do you expect to end a conflict ?


Of course, the other option is not to go to war. But when in combat, I expect to end it by annihilating the enemy. A country can make all the rules they want, but once they commit a individual to go fight for them, that individual makes the rules (it is their life at stake), and most of the time everyone looks the other way. War itself is a complete disregard for human life, nothing humane about it.
 

Cliffy

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Just for fun you should check out the life expectancy of men in similar positions as you.

My uncle gave up having a son after seven daughters. He died of a heart attack at fifty.
Come to think of it, I had a heart attack at fifty, but I had no daughters.
Like my pappy used to say, you have a son, you only have one dick to worry about. You have a daughter and you worry about every dick in town. Just imagine - times seven! Scary stuff.
 

Cannuck

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You have a daughter and you worry about every dick in town.





la la la la la la la la la....
 

ironsides

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This is the real American shame, for letting this happen in the first place.
Look like this was a power grab by the Left wing Socialist Democrat's, banks that want to realize that it was a mistake to take stimulus package cannot jut pay it back without federal imposed conditions put upon them.
WASHINGTON – Banks that want to pay back their federal bailout funds and free themselves from government restrictions on compensation and dividends will have to sever their ties to another financial assistance program.
Financial firms eager to return infusions from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program will have to demonstrate that they can operate without debt guarantees provided by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., a senior government official said Tuesday. The FDIC program allows financial institutions to borrow money at lower costs.
The new requirement will make it harder for some institutions to get out from under government rules attached to the bailouts, another shift in a changing landscape for banks. It also illustrates the government's desire not to have banks abandon the bailout program if they are not financially prepared to do so.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090506/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_bailout_return
More proof that left wing and their liberal media are controlling just how Banks can and cannot do business. Bank of America has not said anything, this is either media creating news or someone leaking out something said during conversation overheard.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_bank_of_america_capital;_ylt=AgDaVkZR0MYNpK_9aWKohf6WwvIE;_ylu=X3oDMTJ0N3FxN2RuBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwNTA2L3VzX2Jhbmtfb2ZfYW1lcmljYV9jYXBpdGFsBGNwb3MDMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3JpZXMEc2xrA2JhbmtvZmFtZXJpYw
 

ironsides

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This is the real shame of America, that we allow people like this to hold such a high position.

This Jet is a USAF Boeing 757

USA - Air Force 00-09001 aircraft at St Denis de la Reunion

And they want to talk about Sarah's dress.
Conservatives! Are you out there?* MADAME PELOSI *

Madame Pelosi wasn't happy with the small private jet that comes with the Speaker's job...no, Madame Pelosi was aggravated that this little jet had to Stop to refuel, so she ordered a Big Fat 300 seat jet that could get her back to California without stopping!

Many, many legislators walked by and grinned with glee as Joe informed everyone that's Nancy's Big Fat Jet costs us, the hard working American Tax payers, thousands of gallons of fuel every week.

Since she only works 3 days a week, this gas guzzling jet gets fueled and she flies home to California , cost to the taxpayers of about $90,000, one Way!

As Joe put it, 'Unfortunately we have to pay to bring her back on Monday Night.' Cost to us another $90,000.

Folks, that is over $500,000 per month and that is an annual cost to the taxpayers....

of $6,000,000 . No wonder she complains about the cost of this war...it might cramp her style and she is styling, on my back and yours.

I think of the military families in this country doing without and this woman, who heads up the most do-nothing Congress in the history of this country keeps fueling that jet while doing nothing.

Madame Pelosi wants you and me to conserve our carbon footprint. She wants us to buy smaller cars and Obama wants us to get a bicycle pump and air up our tires.

These people are nuts.

If you think this is outrageous, forward it to all those on your email list!

Keep in mind the figures above do NOT include cost of plane or crew, just fuel!

One wonders what her total package cost us? And She wants to tax our Ira 's & 401 K's!


Gov. Mark Sanford

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YukonJack

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"There is never an excuse for torture."

Just as there is no excuse for producing high quality AMERICAN vehicles out
side of the U.S.

Yet, it does happen. It is called OUTSOURCING.

Interrogation of human pieces of crud for valuable information by a sympathetic power is called RENDITION. If this is NOT acceptable, let the U.S. severe all political connections with Turkey. With Saudi Arabia. Any of the former Soviet satellite States. South Korea. Japan. Germany. Etc. etc.

In other words, no oil from Saudi Arabia.
No commerce with with former Soviet satellites.
Withdraw all U.S. troops from South Korea, and welcome Kim Yong (mentally) Ill's troops in South Korea.

Go for it!!!! NO EXCUSE!!!
 
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