American neo-con agenda

[earth_as_one]

In a nutshell this is American neo-conservationism:

* a binary world world view, where the right is good and the left is evil
* less taxes, regulation, government and social services
* low tolerance for diplomacy
* readiness to use military force
* emphasis on US unilateral action
* disdain for multilateral organizations
* focus on the Middle East oil and Israel.
* an us versus them mentality".

This think tank developed Bush's neo-con agenda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was an American think tank based in Washington, D.C. that lasted from early 1997 to 2006. It was co-founded as a non-profit educational organization by neoconservatives William Kristol and Robert Kagan. The PNAC's stated goal was "to promote American global leadership."[1] Fundamental to the PNAC were the view that "American leadership is both good for America and good for the world" and support for "a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity."[2] The PNAC exerted influence on high-level U.S. government officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush and affected the Bush Administration's development of military and foreign policies, especially involving national security and the Iraq War.

Here is their manifesto
http://www.webcitation.org/5e3est5lT

Since then, the neo-con agenda has become even more radical with the Tea Party movement.

As a result of neo-cons successfully implementing their agenda, the majority of Americans have less wealth, fewer rights and fewer social services. Normally most people would be upset by this, but neo-con propaganda has convinced a majority of Americans that fewer rights and less wealth for the working class (themselves) is good and anyone who sticks up for their rights is evil.

Its about time people see what's going on. The US used to be a place where the middle class prospered. The neo-con agenda has trashed American. Wealth disparity in the US gets worse each year as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Currently the US has the same level of wealth disparity as Russia and Turkey and well on its decline toward becoming like Egypt.

Data from the United States Department of Commerce and Internal Revenue Service indicate that income inequality has been increasing since the 1970s,[10][11][12][13][14] whereas it had been declining during the mid 20th century.[15][16] As of 2006, the United States had one of the highest levels of income inequality, as measured through the Gini index, among high income countries, comparable to that of some middle income countries such as Russia or Turkey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States

Since the situation is improving in Turkey and getting worse in the US, it won't be long before Turks have a better chance at achieving the "American dream" than Americans. If the neo-cons have their way and this trend continues, Mexico may become the land of opportunity for Americans, and illegal immigration may reverse. Canada may have to build walls to keep desperately poor Americans from illegally entering Canada.

Meanwhile, America's wealthy elite will grow richer and continue to live an opulent lifestyle on their side of the wall in gated communities.

 

[The Old Medic]

Once again, an extreme leftist consults the media that supports his world view, doesn't bother actually checking Conservative sources at all, and decides that he KNOWS what those dastardly conservatives are really up to.

Yes, the Conservatives want to see less Government involvement in peoples private lives.

Yes, Conservatives want to see a lot less taxation, a lot less involvement of the Federal Government in areas that the Constitution of the United States of America gives to the States, much more self reliance and a lot less dependence on government.

It was exactly those values that built the United States into a world power. Before 1940, the average expenditures of the United States Government totaled an average of 3% of the Gross Domestic Product except during time of War). That is FACT.

Since 1940, the expenditures of the Federal Government have risen to approximately 10 times that amount. We have MORE poor people now than we had when the "Great Society" began. We have much poorer schools, and many more failing students, than we had before there was any such thing as a "Department of Education".

We once had a "Department of War", which never lost a single war. We now have a "Department of Defense", which has lost all but one war (Iraq) that we have been involved in since it's inception.

We got a "Department of Energy", and all forms of energy developed in this country ave DECREASED ever since.

We got a Department of Health and Welfare, and the numbers of people without any form off health coverage has increased dramatically, and the number of people on welfare has also increased dramatically. We are now well into a third generation of welfare recipients, and are beginning a 4th generation.

Name any single Department of the Federal Government that has actually improved anything that they are supposedly responsible for.

Agriculture? We pay tens of thousands of farmers NOT to grow crops.

Conservatives want to get the Federal Government out of all of this kind of business. Our country was MUCH better off before the Federal Government became involved in all of these fields.

Of course, the Liberals want the government to be even more involved. After all, they all need jobs, and none of them can compete in the real world. they have to have government to absorb their inefficiency and their stupidity.

 

[Corduroy]

Neo-conservatism is mostly an ideology for US foreign policy and the Wikipedia source you cited doesn't give any indication that any neo-conservative domestic agenda (if one exists) is responsible for any of the domestic problems in the United States you described. But I can't access your webcitation source, so maybe they do have a domestic agenda, but I've never heard of one except when described by liberals.

 

[mentalfloss]

Neo-conservationism?

 

[BaalsTears]

How many times can one kill a dead dog?

Neo-conservatism is a school of foreign policy thought in America. It's completely discredited. Talking about American Neo-Conservatism is like talking about the Soviet Union. Discredited and discarded ideas. That's not where the fight is. The fight is between American leftism and radical conservatism over the internal direction of America.

 

[lone wolf]

The fight is between people who think their way is the right (as in correct for nit-pickers) way. Get rid of them and there will be a solution.

 

[darkbeaver]

Neo conservative is Americanese for zionist, they pushed for war in Iraq, exactly as Israel required.

 

[BaalsTears]

Neo conservative is Americanese for zionist, they pushed for war in Iraq, exactly as Israel required.

No one admits to being a neo-conservative today. Today most say they are Realists. I think Zionism and Neo-Conservativism were like concentic circles with some overlap. In any event Neo-Conservatives had no domestic agenda. In my opinion the only thing that matters today is domestic affairs.

 

[darkbeaver]

No one admits to being a neo-conservative today. Today most say they are Realists. I think Zionism and Neo-Conservativism were like concentic circles with some overlap. In any event Neo-Conservatives had no domestic agenda. In my opinion the only thing that matters today is domestic affairs.

Neo conservatives controlled domestic agendas, for that matter in the internationalist world there are hardly any purely domestic issues.

 

[taxslave]

In a nutshell this is American neo-conservationism:

* a binary world world view, where the right is good and the left is evil
* less taxes, regulation, government and social services
* low tolerance for diplomacy
* readiness to use military force
* emphasis on US unilateral action
* disdain for multilateral organizations
* focus on the Middle East oil and Israel.
* an us versus them mentality".


So you are saying that you WANT higher taxes, more government interference in our lives and more rules made by a mindless bureaucracy who's only goal is to protect their cushy jobs?
Not in my country.

BTW: Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. Not is you care abut accuracy anyway.

 

[BaalsTears]

Neo conservatives controlled domestic agendas, for that matter in the internationalist world there are hardly any purely domestic issues.

Defined benefit pension plans of govt. workers in America is a purely domestic issue. Political contributions paid by public sector unions to corrupt politicians is exlusively an American domestic political issue. The delegitimization of Barack Obama is solely a domestic political issue.

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* a binary world world view, where the right is good and the left is evil
* less taxes, regulation, government and social services
* low tolerance for diplomacy
* readiness to use military force
* emphasis on US unilateral action
* disdain for multilateral organizations
* focus on the Middle East oil and Israel.
* an us versus them mentality".
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*There is no evil in the world that concerns Americans
*Less taxes, regulation, govt. and social services: Good
*Diplomacy is of little importance to America as long as we can rely on Canadian resources
*No use of military force except on American soil or in American waters
*No unilateralism/No multilateralism
*Complete disdain for oil for food/Rwanda genocide multilateralism
*Focus on Canadian resources
*An US vs. them mentality is irrelevant as long as them do not cross the American border

 

[Cliffy]

Defined benefit pension plans of govt. workers in America is a purely domestic issue. Political contributions paid by public sector unions to corrupt politicians is exlusively an American domestic political issue. The delegitimization of Barack Obama is solely a domestic political issue.

*There is no evil in the world that concerns Americans
*Less taxes, regulation, govt. and social services: Good
*Diplomacy is of little importance to America as long as we can rely on Canadian resources
*No use of military force except on American soil or in American waters
*No unilateralism/No multilateralism
*Complete disdain for oil for food/Rwanda genocide multilateralism
*Focus on Canadian resources
*An US vs. them mentality is irrelevant as long as them do not cross the American border

In that case, stay out of Canada and we keep our resources or sell them to someone else (the Chinese already own a lot of it). I know most Americans are not as neurotic as you are, so I don't think we will have to defend ourselves but you can stay in California.

 

[darkbeaver]

BaalsTears;1387750]Defined benefit pension plans of govt. workers in America is a purely domestic issue. Political contributions paid by public sector unions to corrupt politicians is exlusively an American domestic political issue. The delegitimization of Barack Obama is solely a domestic political issue.

There are two words you may not have considered, War Reparations. It 's a bit late in the game for you to expect a reasonably cheap withdrawl to isolationism. America will be held accountable. Of that you can be sure. You should be thinking about how you will pay for the carnage in Iraq.

 

[BaalsTears]

Defined benefit pension plans of govt. workers in America is a purely domestic issue. Political contributions paid by public sector unions to corrupt politicians is exlusively an American domestic political issue. The delegitimization of Barack Obama is solely a domestic political issue.


In that case, stay out of Canada and we keep our resources or sell them to someone else (the Chinese already own a lot of it). I know most Americans are not as neurotic as you are, so I don't think we will have to defend ourselves but you can stay in California.

Canada is going to sell its resources to America willingly and voluntarily. It's too late for Canada to cut the ties that bind. NAFTA. My sin is that I speak the truth.

There are two words you may not have considered, War Reparations. It 's a bit late in the game for you to expect a reasonably cheap withdrawl to isolationism. America will be held accountable. Of that you can be sure. You should be thinking about how you will pay for the carnage in Iraq.

Those with grievances are welcome to file petitions and see where that gets them. They might as well be Tibetans seeking recourse against the Chinese who have swamped the country with Han immigrants. Let the Georgians seek reparations from the Russians. It will all be to no avail. Canadians aren't going to hold America accountable for anything. No one else will either. We are simply too well armed.

 

[Cliffy]

Canada is going to sell its resources to America willingly and voluntarily. It's too late for Canada to cut the ties that bind. NAFTA. My sin is that I speak the truth.



Those with grievances are welcome to file petitions and see where that gets them. They might as well be Tibetans seeking recourse against the Chinese who have swamped the country with Han immigrants. Let the Georgians seek reparations from the Russians. It will all be to no avail. Canadians aren't going to hold America accountable for anything. No one else will either. We are simply too well armed.

Karma has a way of exacting compensation. I am hearing reports from Canada's snow birds that the situation in the US is far worse than they are letting on. Poverty will raise its ugly head just like in ME countries and tear you apart in civil war. Retribution is a bitch!

 

[damngrumpy]

Some interesting points raised here and we should take a good look at them.
First the present policy was started when Ronald Reagan came into power.
This is the man who destroyed America and its greatness to clamp down on
some Air Traffic Controllers. In the end it was America that suffered because
one success by an egomaniac with an actors smile goes a long way with
people who want to watch Entertainment Tonight, for their evening news content.

1 The right is good and the left is bad is not new and does not belong to Reagan.
This came about in the fifties with the McCarthy Hearings, and the Americans
have been afraid of the rest of the world ever since. This nation went from being
the land of opportunity to becoming the cowardly Lion afraid of their own shadow.
It is easier to class someone an enemy than to have a serious discussion about
differences, besides the masses want to believe they are the best at all costs.

2 Lower taxes, less regulation. and cuts to social services. There are plus and minus
points for this category. I want to see lower taxes, as long as the people's bills are
being paid. It also stands to reason that the middle class should not be paying the
bill for rich multinationals who pay almost nothing when it comes to the size of the pie
they receive. If that requires business tax increases so be it, I would rather see a
better system of managing the money they already receive.
The lax Regulation that has risen in America is the prime reason they are in so much
financial trouble. Regulation is a must as the current business moguls have no ethics
or business morals anymore and someone has to police their actions to keep them
honest sad but true.
Social Programs are designed to help people get back on their feet or to make just
compensation for those who are disadvantaged through no real fault of their own.
The social program benefits in most cases were never meant to be financial sustainability
for life.

3 The Western Powers have been the most patient when it comes to diplomacy that is why
we have so many tin horn dictators that we have to fight at a later date. Having said that
America in recent years went to the Empire Mentality and in that context, they have now
diminished their once good name on the world stage. It should be remembered there was
a time when Britain and France were the international bad guys of public opinion.

4 America is the master of using Military Force. This goes back to post Second World War,
activities, Korea, Vietnam, and indoChina to the Middle East. America once thought of
itself as the world's policemen but lately there are different concerns. First they are in a
position that they need to maintain their access to international oil and they would deal with
the Devil to secure it. Americans are afraid of anything they do not understand and the only
safe avenue in their mind is if you don't understand it defeat it. For God sake don't learn
anything about it, it might be evil.

5 They take unilateral action because they do not trust their own allies and besides they have
their own agenda.

6 Multilateral Organizations never get the job done or if they do they make the wrong decision.
The UN is a prime example of something that does not work. I don't have much regard for
for them either.

7 The focus is on Middle Eastern oil and shipping routes. Israel is a non starter when it comes
to concessions or trade offs. With many good reasons I might add. Most Americans support
Israel, because they are more closely related to what Americans understand. The Arab world
has a lesser standing because Islamic ideas are foreign and no amount of education or learning
will bring about change to that ideal at least not in the short term It also does not help when
Terrorists with Arab sounding names threaten violence against the American belief system.
Does that really surprise anyone?

8 There is a climate of us against them, it is hardly a conservative American Idea it is as old as
civilization itself. It was the prime motivating factor of WWII or the Cold War, and even in Vietnam
for that matter. The feeling was there and the propaganda was ready for the Gulf War and used
with great success.

Taking a look at this it is no different that it has ever been, except for the fact the neoconservatives were
able to transfer the actions into emotions and it worked. Unfortunately the world will pay for it all.
There is a neoconservative movement that is true but they will be no more successful than any other group
that tried this old method. America is also suffering from decay from within. There is an old saying that
comes to mind. He who Rides the back of the tiger ultimately ends up inside

 

[gopher]

''Conservatives want to get the Federal Government out of all of this kind of business''

If that was true, they would have returned the trillions they got from Bush and Obama.

 

[damngrumpy]

gopher you have a point there for sure. Companies get more freebies from government
than any other group in our society.

 

[Cliffy]

gopher you have a point there for sure. Companies get more freebies from government
than any other group in our society.

Makes me laugh at those who rail against people on welfare when corporate welfare is a hundred times what people get. Yet it those free loading welfare bums that are destroying this country. Some people must like the smell of their excrement.

 

[lone wolf]

The difference is, investors fill their pockets from the profits of corporate welfare bums. That makes it alright by them.