BitWhys said:I'll do that. thanks. :rr:
Noooo that is NOT "conspiracy theory" but undeniable FACT, man, I had to point that out, the only way out of that statement is to "pull a Ciinton" and try to get what the definition of "in bed with" (as pertains to relationships between corporate entites) is exactly...ITN said:Big business and government are not in the same bed together, BUT, they do excercise influence, without a doubt
mabudon said:Noooo that is NOT "conspiracy theory" but undeniable FACT, man, I had to point that out, the only way out of that statement is to "pull a Ciinton" and try to get what the definition of "in bed with" (as pertains to relationships between corporate entites) is exactly...ITN said:Big business and government are not in the same bed together, BUT, they do excercise influence, without a doubt
I think not said:BitWhys said:where you hanging out that you hear THAT crap?I think not said:But when I hear the fringe left praising Castro and his little jubgle wars, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia and other sick regimes, they lose credibility in my eyes. They try and make the point, that taking away freedoms is somehow for the greater good. Bullshit.
:lol:
Are you kidding?
jimmoyer said:I could work with you,(referring to ITN) but that JimMoyer will require way to much drugs and a chain to keep him from floating off into the acid and co2 clouds.
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Jay said:You see people like Pasta would rather see America get attacked by crazies like Binny Boy and Saddam...thats why they are on Irans side. They don't want us to quell threats, they want the threats to come to fruition and they want America to fail. Screw em. I would rather hear them whine and complain that have to see more 9/11s.
The lefts entire contribution the war effort has been to whine.
fuzzylogix said:Jay said:You see people like Pasta would rather see America get attacked by crazies like Binny Boy and Saddam...thats why they are on Irans side. They don't want us to quell threats, they want the threats to come to fruition and they want America to fail. Screw em. I would rather hear them whine and complain that have to see more 9/11s.
The lefts entire contribution the war effort has been to whine.
Wow, is this your ONLY defence!! I see this posted time after time after time after time. If someone isnt for the Iraq war it makes them anti American. Crapola. Lets have some detailed analysis of your position Jay, and not just degradation of the lefties. You cant refute their arguments---GREAT POSTINGS, by the way, PASTA!- so you resort to denigration. How immature and inept. Read history and then maybe you can debate these topics properly. Actually, if you really read the history, you will probably realize you are rooting for the wrong side. Why are you so afraid of questioning your president's actions-- are you afraid of what you might find!!!!!
Oh, and before you add the one line that the USA was right in starting Desert Storm, you might want to consider that even there, the USA had ignored all of Saddam's indications that he was about to invade Kuwait, and had all ready ignored his killing of Shiites and Kurds. Only when their oil was threatened did they act.
I think not said:darkbeaver said:I think we can work together, you seem more often than not a reasonable sort, I too enjoy the benifits of free enterprise but I think the big fish are screwing it for the little guy. I could work with you, but that JimMoyer will require way to much drugs and a chain to keep him from floating off into the acid and co2 clouds. :lol:
I also believe corporations have no morals, but I also believe it's the job of the government to control them. Big business and government are not in the same bed together, BUT, they do excercise influence, without a doubt. My position is, that the government is more corrupt than the corruptor when they kneel to influence, I think that is our major difference. I have never trusted any government, ever, anywhere. Whatever we have accomplished, we have done so because of activists, organizations and common concerned citizens. And tht's always where I have placed my faith.
tracy said:Why does every thread become the same argument? I really don't get how people can see anything as being so completely one sided. No country is 100% evil or 100% good.
tracy said:Why does every thread become the same argument? I really don't get how people can see anything as being so completely one sided. No country is 100% evil or 100% good.
Said1 said:fuzzylogix said:Jay said:You see people like Pasta would rather see America get attacked by crazies like Binny Boy and Saddam...thats why they are on Irans side. They don't want us to quell threats, they want the threats to come to fruition and they want America to fail. Screw em. I would rather hear them whine and complain that have to see more 9/11s.
The lefts entire contribution the war effort has been to whine.
Wow, is this your ONLY defence!! I see this posted time after time after time after time. If someone isnt for the Iraq war it makes them anti American. Crapola. Lets have some detailed analysis of your position Jay, and not just degradation of the lefties. You cant refute their arguments---GREAT POSTINGS, by the way, PASTA!- so you resort to denigration. How immature and inept. Read history and then maybe you can debate these topics properly. Actually, if you really read the history, you will probably realize you are rooting for the wrong side. Why are you so afraid of questioning your president's actions-- are you afraid of what you might find!!!!!
Oh, and before you add the one line that the USA was right in starting Desert Storm, you might want to consider that even there, the USA had ignored all of Saddam's indications that he was about to invade Kuwait, and had all ready ignored his killing of Shiites and Kurds. Only when their oil was threatened did they act.
Wow. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Enough analysis and comparison?
We could do a compative analysis of posts. That is, compare your assumptions and contribution to denigration to Jay's assumptions and denigration at this particular time? I don't prefer that model of comparitive analysis though, I prefer the most common model to weed out differences and commonalities. How about yourself?