Am I supposed to feel bad for these people?

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Mogz

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If they give them citizenship, what sory of message does that send? Break our rules and get your citizenship fast tracked? That is NOT the approach to take Jersay. They clearly violated our laws and as such have are among the same people you deem COMMIT CRIMES. While as I said above their crime is not in the same league as murder, it is still an afront to our legal system, and as such they deserve to be deported. Canada is not a revolving door society. You have to be screened and you have to pay your taxes. For years these illegal immigrants have dodged our screening system and never payed a cent in taxes. I have no sympathy for them, just like I have no sympathy for murderers, thieves, rapists, cronic speeders, drug dealers, fradulent tax filers, and drunk drivers. They're all criminals at verying degrees of the spectrum. In our society we do not have the luxuary of picking and choosing which criminals to be nice to.
 

Jersay

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Well Jay, the population of Canada, or the European population of Canada just doesn't want to produce enough children to keep this population sustainable.

It is the immigrant families children and Native people along with new immigrants that keep Canada where it is.
 

Jersay

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So when a person comes from a violent place, and comes to Canada and becomes an illegal person and does everything right for 20 years and he winds up being deported because he is an illegal. I don't think that is fair.

But Mogz you have a valid point.
 

Jay

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Jersay said:
Well Jay, the population of Canada, or the European population of Canada just doesn't want to produce enough children to keep this population sustainable.

It is the immigrant families children and Native people along with new immigrants that keep Canada where it is.

Gee I wonder how that happened....how many more kids could I afford to have if Liberals didn't steal half and more of people's incomes. (I think its part of the plan you see...)
 

Jersay

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No, it has nothing to do with Liberals. It has nothing to do with politics. It is because people or in geography people called 'dinks' don't want children because they want to travel and stuff.
 

darkbeaver

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Jay said:
Ya, we probably are opposites on this topic as I think we need to tighten up immigration and use our own population to produce people rather than other nation's populations. Therefore illegal immigrants don't get a whole lot of sympathy from me.

I'm somewhat in agreement with you on this point of using our own population to produce more Canadians, I'm ready to begin insemination on a large scale, I only need volunteer ladys to come forward and be inseminated.
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Jay

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darkbeaver said:
Jay said:
Ya, we probably are opposites on this topic as I think we need to tighten up immigration and use our own population to produce people rather than other nation's populations. Therefore illegal immigrants don't get a whole lot of sympathy from me.

I'm somewhat in agreement with you on this point of using our own population to produce more Canadians, I'm ready to begin insemination on a large scale, I only need volunteer ladys to come forward and be inseminated.
Send Insemination Request
Procreation Department
DarkBeaver Baby Farms
RR1 Canada

Can you do me a favour and hold your breath while you wait for volunteers?
 

Jay

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Jersay said:


Sorry, Jersay, but your sorta wrong.

How am I supposed to feel confident about bringing kids into the world when I'm taxed to death, therefore not allowed to save for mine and my posterity’s future? It’s part of the nanny state mentality " don't worry we got you back" but they also have my money and are stifling my growth and the growth of my family and the growth of the nation, and the solution is bring in immigrants.
 

Mogz

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Mogz, not to devalue your other points, but illegal immigrants still pay G.S.T. / H.S.T. and P.S.T., where applicable.

I want to stab you....;)

So when a person comes from a violent place, and comes to Canada and becomes an illegal person and does everything right for 20 years and he winds up being deported because he is an illegal. I don't think that is fair.

But Mogz you have a valid point.

If they come from a violent place they can apply for refugee status and then while under that status apply for citizenship. Thousands of Ethnic Albanians did it in the 90's when they fled from the Balkans and a large portion of them followed on to become Canadian citizens. There are ways to get things done, the right and the wrong ways. The right tends to work in your favor in the long run. Do I think it's fair all the time? No, of course not, however I do feel that our laws are the corner stone of our society. If we make exceptions to our laws, what else are we making exception to inadvertently?


people or in geography people called 's' don't want children because they want to travel and stuff.

I suppose i'm one of those "dinks" you speak of. I'm almost 24, not married, and have no kids. Granted i'm engaged, however we don't plan on having children for at least a few years so we can travel. I, as does my special lady friend, feel it's important to do the things you want to do in life before you become tied down. Does that mean who don't want children? No, we do, just not yet. We've been hardcore traveling since 2002 and we've still got a lot of places to hit. The kids can wait a few more years so I can have sex in a a few more nations ;)
 

darkbeaver

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Mogz, don't wait procreate! As you age your sperm becomes weaker and your children won't be as smart, since you're already dumb and you're not even a grownup yet, you should have the little ones now before your little wigglies get any more stunned. You can still travel, it's called a stroller.
 

Jersay

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Well I am one of the dinks.

I want a ton of children but not right now. I want to spend some time in the CF, see the world then settle down and raise some children no matter what my tax situation is at.
 

Jay

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darkbeaver said:
You can still travel, it's called a stroller.

Ya DB has been in his stroller for 40 years and he can travel to the bathroom (if he needs to change his diaper) and to the "drug" store etc....
 

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FiveParadox said:
I want kids ...

But unlike you lucky bastards I have to find a "creative" way to do it. :( lol

Just get a puppy instead.
 
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