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Taxslave2

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By the time you read this post, you might think I'm drinking. I apologize to PGs, and Taxslave, who I know aren't bad folks, but people who are disillusioned. And to both of you, I share that disillusion. When this debate gets personal, and I walk away, it makes me sort of ill, like physically. The personal side of it isn't healthy for anyone. So, I apologize for my comments in the previous posts.
Thank you. Discussing this is important. Those of us that were born in the west often feel different than the immigrants from back east. For many of us, the Crow rate still causes rage. The West has been deliberately kept shackled by the Laurentian Elite from losing control since confederation.
Even the electoral system is rigged against the West. AN MP in Alberta represents about 4 times as many taxpayers as an MP in PEI. Quebec is guaranteed 30% of the seats, regardless of population. It is even worse for Senators. Then there is Transfer payments, which are viewed as welfare payments by westerners.
 

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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announces referendum to stay in Canada
Author of the article:Cindy Tran
Published May 21, 2026 • Last updated 13 hours ago • 4 minute read

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is putting a new question about separation in an October referendum, but it won’t explicitly address the issue.


In a televised address on Thursday, Smith told Albertans that while she supports Alberta remaining in Canada, she is “deeply troubled” by the recent court decision to quash an Alberta independence citizen petition. The government will now be adding a new question — not the same one from the Forever Canadian petition — on the Oct. 19 referendum.


“The additional question will be ‘Should Alberta remain a province of Canada or should the Government of Alberta commence the legal process required under the Canadian Constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada?'” Smith said in her address.

The address happened after controversy erupted at a committee meeting Wednesday dealing with former deputy premier Thomas Lukaszuk’s Forever Canadian petition.

That was resolved earlier on Thursday when a special committee of MLAs tasked with overseeing the Forever Canadian petition voted in favour of a motion to put the question to a referendum. The Alberta NDP voted against the motion, but was defeated by the UCP majority.


Smith’s question does not directly trigger separation, but if the majority of Albertans are in favour of Alberta separating, the government will begin the legal process to hold a binding referendum on the matter, according to Smith. Because it doesn’t directly trigger separation, the recent court ruling does not apply, Smith added.

Smith said her government will respect the outcome of all referendum questions being voted on Oct. 19. There are already nine other questions on the referendum related to immigration and the Constitution.

“The fact is that between the Forever Canadian petition requesting a referendum on Alberta remaining in Canada, and the Stay Free Alberta petition requesting a referendum on leaving Canada, approximately 700,000 Albertans have signed petitions requesting a vote on this issue,” Smith said.

Later in her address, Smith accused the federal government of moving towards a more “centralized American-style system” with Ottawa overreaching in provincial areas of jurisdiction. She said with her government’s advocacy by launching dozens of legal challenges, collaborating with other premiers and participating in national interviews “we’ve started to win.”


“Our Alberta oilsands went from a national target to a national treasure. Pipelines went from impossible to a national imperative,” Smith said.

“Justin Trudeau’s anti-Alberta, anti-energy policies became a national embarrassment — one of several — that ultimately cost him his prime ministership.”

Despite this criticism, Smith suggested that relations between Ottawa and Alberta have drastically improved — “things are a world of difference better” — since the end of Trudeau’s tenure.

Smith indicated that she herself would be voting for Alberta to remain in Canada, and while she understands the grievances that are felt by some in the separatist movement, she said she is “fiercely loyal to both Alberta and Canada.”

Smith called on people leaning toward separatism not to give up on the work that her government has done to get movement in key areas of friction with Ottawa.

“In my view, now is not the time to give up hope in our country. Not when we have fought so hard for so long — and come so far,” Smith said.


“I believe Canada can still work. I believe it’s working better every day, and it can work even better in the future if we keep fighting together for it.”

Committee controversy
The decision by the committee of MLAs was anticipated to come on Wednesday but was delayed after the UCP caucus sent out a press release announcing the question would be on the fall referendum before the committee of MLAs had voted on the motion.

“Traitors! Shame on you,” a member of the gallery shouted after the motion passed.

The motion asks that the question put to voters include an option for Albertans to vote for Alberta to remain in Canada.

Opposition MLA Court Ellingson put forward an amendment to the motion asking the government to consult with any Indigenous communities that might be impacted by the question. He pointed to Court of King’s Bench Justice Shaina Leonard’s ruling on the Stay Alberta petition that said the provincial government failed to meet its constitutional duty to consult with First Nations.


“The government can’t bypass the duty to consult,” Ellingson said.

Government house leader Joseph Schow said while he appreciated the amendment, he accused the Alberta NDP of stalling the committee from voting on the motion. He called the Opposition’s comments “vain repetition.”

“For them to continue to stall this committee’s work I think is an affront to the will of those hundreds of thousands who signed that petition,” Schow said.

The amendment was defeated. Indigenous Relations Minister Rajan Sawhney did not speak to the amendment and voted against it.

Alberta NDP deputy leader Rakhi Pancholi says the motion clearly shows the UCP government will not be sticking with the Forever Canadian wording.

“That question will be owned by her, it will be authored by her, it will belong to her,” Pancholi said.

Lukaszuk told reporters after the committee meeting that he knew it would end in a referendum. He said the petition was filed as a policy provision to give Smith an “off-ramp” to avoid one.


“Do I personally feel used? No, this is politics,” Lukaszuk said.

“We have a premier who only has one goal in mind and that’s remaining a premier.”

ctran@postmedia.com
 

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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith pitches unity campaign as separatists target her leadership
'She seems to have forgotten who elected her,' said separatist lawyer Jeffrey Rath who said momentum is building with the UCP to oust the premier from her leadership

Author of the article:Matthew Black
Published May 22, 2026 • Last updated 17 hours ago • 4 minute read

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith speaks at a press conference at McDougall Centre in Calgary on the referendum question asking whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada. Friday, May 22, 2026.
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith speaks at a press conference at McDougall Centre in Calgary on the referendum question asking whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada. Friday, May 22, 2026. Photo by Dean Pilling /Postmedia
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith defended her decision Friday to hold a vote on whether the province should begin the process of separating from Canada, while separatists warned the move could trigger a revolt within her governing United Conservative Party (UCP).


On Thursday evening, Smith took to the airwaves in a televised address indicating that a tenth question on separation will be added to the referendums already scheduled for Oct. 19 of this year.


That question asks if Alberta should begin the process required to hold a future legally-binding separation vote, and reads: “Should Alberta remain a province of Canada or should the government of Alberta commence the legal process required under the Canadian Constitution to hold a binding provincial referendum on whether or not Alberta should separate from Canada?’”

On Friday, Smith repeated her earlier position that more than 700,000 Albertans signed two rival petitions calling for Alberta to either remain a part of or to secede from Canada, and that the issue had reached a point where those views should be put to a public vote.

“We cannot kick this can down the road. We need to get direction from all Albertans on this matter now, not three years from now,” she said.


“Now is the time for Albertans to decide whether we want to spend the time, expense and effort pursuing separation or whether Albertans want to remain in Canada.”

When asked by reporters, she said she intended to campaign throughout the summer on the side of those calling on Alberta to remain a part of Canada, citing the recent progress towards improving the province’s relationship with the federal government under the leadership of Prime Minister Mark Carney.

“I have seen enough from the directional change that we have with the new prime minister. He’s prepared to work with us, he’s prepared to give Albertans hope again,” she said, adding she plans to have town halls and meetings over the summer about why Albertans should vote to remain in Canada.

“I’m prepared to work to give Albertans hope again, but we need to question the results, so that we can end that uncertainty.”

‘It’s cynical. It’s despicable. It’s low’
Separatist organizers, however, are accusing Smith of defusing the independence movement while denying its supporters the referendum question they wanted.


Alberta Prosperity Project lawyer Jeffrey Rath told Postmedia in an interview Friday that he wasn’t surprised by Smith’s Thursday night address and that she has angered people on both sides of the issue equally.

“It’s cynical. It’s despicable. It’s low. It’s underhanded, and it’s morally bankrupt,” he said. “Danielle Smith has lost the moral authority to continue to lead the UCP. She knows that a supermajority of her base wanted an independence referendum.”

Rath has been the co-counsel for separatist petitioner Mitch Sylvestre, who claims to have gathered more than 300,000 signatures in support of a referendum question asking if Alberta should cease being a province of Canada.

That signature count remains unverified due to a court ruling earlier this month that effectively quashed Sylvestre’s petition. Rath said Friday he had already appealed and will be in court later next month to present an application seeking a stay of the ruling.

Rath said his group is pursuing a two-track strategy, the first of which involves developing what he described as a “wholesome referendum campaign.”


The other track seeks to sign up new members to the UCP with an eye on building support to remove Smith at a special general meeting.

“She seems to have forgotten who elected her,” he said. “Her base will certainly remove her as leader if she continues to insult them.”

He claims to have the support of “16 or 17” out of 87 constituency associations for a special general meeting, though the party’s rules state support from one-third of constituency members is needed to organize such a meeting.

“It’s going to be interesting to see how many more this ridiculous division of (Smith’s) is going to push over the edge,” Rath said.

‘You also have to govern for all the people’
When asked by reporters, Smith dismissed concerns over her job security, saying she was more interested in what Albertans as a whole have to say.

“When you are a party leader, yes, that’s one aspect, but you also have to govern for all the people, and this is an issue that, in my opinion … doesn’t get decided on an (annual general meeting) convention floor by a few delegates, this gets decided by Albertans,” she said.


“Any movement has a diversity of voices in it, a breadth of voices, and this is the opportunity for those who have different opinions to debate it out in public and to vote.”

Smith said the referendum results would guide her government’s next steps and repeated that the issue should be decided by voters, not party activists.

“The fact of the matter is that this is a question that has to go to Albertans.”

mblack@postmedia.com
 

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Perhaps unwittingly, but most likely orders from above, the turdOWE appointed judge played right into the separatists hands. Also making a mockery of democracy. Which is of course, the Liberal way.