Alberta GTFO?

[Ron in Regina]

He’s not talking about separating. He says it’s not status quo or separation, as in an either/or choice…& that he doesn’t like either of those. I’m sure that those in eastern Canada are gonna flip their wigs reading something into this that is completely not what he’s saying.

He is saying that he’s damn frustrated with being held back for the last decade, and doesn’t want to be held back any longer. That I’m in complete agreement with.

The title of the above video on YouTube is “Saskatchewan Just OFFICIALLY Announced SEPARATION!” & that is absolutely not what he’s saying.

 

[petros]

He’s not talking about separating. He says it’s not status quo or separation, as in an either/or choice…& that he doesn’t like either of those. I’m sure that those in eastern Canada are gonna flip their wigs reading something into this that is completely not what he’s saying.

He is saying that he’s damn frustrated with being held back for the last decade, and doesn’t want to be held back any longer. That I’m in complete agreement with.

The title of the above video on YouTube is “Saskatchewan Just OFFICIALLY Announced SEPARATION!” & that is absolutely not what he’s saying.

The title is misleading. There is one ponit that sticks out like a sore thumb though, SK anti-Ottawa legislation isn't new and there is truly a battle for control going on. Federal overreach has gotten out of hand.

 

[Taxslave2]

When I was crushing gravel a decade ago, accidentally finding coal seams in south east Saskatchewan was a common occurrence and a pain in the ass. I, to this day, could lead someone to coal deposits that are relatively untouched except by accident.

I’m assuming the same might be said about the oil industry, and the peak “whatever isn’t taking it into account:
1) what really can replace it?
2) technological advancements to increase the productivity of existing finds…

Hopefully someday something comes along to replace oil or nuclear as clean and consistent and affordable solutions for energy production, but that day isn’t today and nothing currently exists to fill that role.

Until then, we can’t cut off our nose to spite our face. I also remember the first time I heard about global warming in the early ‘70’s and was told that in 50 years we could be growing oranges in Saskatchewan. That 50 years later is today.

It depends a lot on your religious beliefs. If you believe that oil comes from rotten dinosaurs, then there is a finite supply. If you believe in Anthroprogenic (sp?) oil, then there will not be a shortage any time soon.

 

[Taxslave2]

How do we educate the “Steven Guilbeault’s” in the world to this fact then?
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Assumably they already realize this, but have other motivations. Steven Guilbeault, the Trudeau-era cabinet minister who played a significant role as environment minister in blocking pipelines and other critical infrastructure construction, is back as the Minister of Canadian Culture and Identity.

Guilbeault wasted no time in contradicting his new boss, announcing that no new pipelines should be built in Canada despite Carney’s assurance that his government would oversee new construction. We do not yet know if Carney will take his minister to the woodshed over this seeming insubordination.

It’s a mystery why Carney would want his government to be associated with these Trudeau-era dinosaurs.

It’s a mystery why Carney would want his government to be associated with these Trudeau-era dinosaurs.

He is one of them. He took lessons in lying out of both sides of his mouth from Cretin.

 

[Taxslave2]

Of course, real men wouldn't have allowed their kingdom to be destroyed in the first place.

The kingdom is being destroyed by those currently in charge. The smart money is pulling out before the good ship Canaduh hits the rather large rock called reality.

 

[Taxslave2]

BC, outside the Lower mainland and Victoria are also upset with the way things are going.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The kingdom is being destroyed by those currently in charge. The smart money is pulling out before the good ship Canaduh hits the rather large rock called reality.

You're not really following the conversation I'm having with Bob, are you?

 

[petros]

Ontario inks trade deals with Saskatchewan and Alberta ahead of meeting with Carney

Ontario inks trade deals with Saskatchewan and Alberta ahead of meeting with Carney

Alberta and Saskatchewan signed agreements with Ontario on Sunday to remove trade barriers ahead of a meeting with Prime Minister Mark Carney to hash out a plan they hope will supercharge the economy.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[pgs]

Ontario inks trade deals with Saskatchewan and Alberta ahead of meeting with Carney

Ontario inks trade deals with Saskatchewan and Alberta ahead of meeting with Carney

Alberta and Saskatchewan signed agreements with Ontario on Sunday to remove trade barriers ahead of a meeting with Prime Minister Mark Carney to hash out a plan they hope will supercharge the economy.

www.ctvnews.ca

Are their red seal trades included .

 

[petros]

Are their red seal trades included .

Always have been.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Ontario inks trade deals with Saskatchewan and Alberta ahead of meeting with Carney

Ontario inks trade deals with Saskatchewan and Alberta ahead of meeting with Carney

Alberta and Saskatchewan signed agreements with Ontario on Sunday to remove trade barriers ahead of a meeting with Prime Minister Mark Carney to hash out a plan they hope will supercharge the economy.

www.ctvnews.ca

"If we truly are going to become the strongest economy in the G7 nations, if we truly are going to become a global energy superpower, it means we need to open up the opportunity for all of our industries," Moe said.

"I think (Carney) is aware that there's a feeling of alienation in certain areas of the nation."

But getting a pipeline through Quebec might be difficult. The province had opposed the former Energy East oil pipeline from Alberta and rejected the GNL Quebec project in Saguenay in 2021. However, Quebec Premier François Legault said last month he's open to some projects. We’ll see where the Feds stand on projects for the national best interests lay, or if it just bullshit for federal election purposes spewing from him confusingly every second day depending who Carneys audience was.

(Conventional energy is our bread and butter, that is far and away Canada’s largest industry, contributing hundreds of billions to our economy annually, despite Liberal attempts to neuter it over the last decade)

 

[petros]

"If we truly are going to become the strongest economy in the G7 nations, if we truly are going to become a global energy superpower, it means we need to open up the opportunity for all of our industries," Moe said.

"I think (Carney) is aware that there's a feeling of alienation in certain areas of the nation."

But getting a pipeline through Quebec might be difficult. The province had opposed the former Energy East oil pipeline from Alberta and rejected the GNL Quebec project in Saguenay in 2021. However, Quebec Premier François Legault said last month he's open to some projects. We’ll see where the Feds stand on projects for the national best interests lay, or if it just bullshit for federal election purposes spewing from him confusingly every second day depending who Carneys audience was.

(Conventional energy is our bread and butter, that is far and away Canada’s largest industry, contributing hundreds of billions to our economy annually, despite Liberal attempts to neuter it over the last decade)

We have been handed Russia's share of the global market on a silver platter. Saskatchewan tops the list of beneficiaries. We have everything except year round production of fruit and veg.

There is one shiny new market we can dominate without question being the energy superpower envisioned and its the one thing Liberals support. Hydrogen.

Carney keeps babbling about carbon capture.

Carney's Energy Chief Pushes Oil Sands to Build Carbon-Capture Systems

Canada’s new energy minister said it’s critical to build carbon-capture systems for the oil sands and identified crude and natural gas exports as a major priority f…

financialpost.com

The entire premise behind Blue Hydrogen is strip the carbon from hydrocarbons then stuff the carbon back into the ground it came from and use the green and clean hydrogen. Hydrogen can be distributed via the currently established natural gas infrastructure with little modification.


Blue hydrogen is a type of hydrogen fuel that is produced from natural gas, but with carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology. This means the carbon dioxide released during the natural gas reforming process is captured and stored, significantly reducing emissions compared to traditional natural gas-based hydrogen production.

Key points about blue hydrogen:

• • Production:
    Blue hydrogen is made by steam methane reforming (SMR), a process where natural gas is heated with steam in the presence of a catalyst, creating hydrogen and carbon dioxide.
    
  • Carbon Capture:
    The crucial distinction is that the carbon dioxide produced is captured and stored underground, preventing it from being released into the atmosphere.
    
  • Low-carbon alternative:
    Blue hydrogen is often described as a low-carbon fuel, as the CCS technology helps reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
    
  • Infrastructure development:
    It can also be used to support the development of hydrogen infrastructure.
    
  • Advantages:
    Blue hydrogen can be available at short notice and is sometimes seen as a low-CO2 option.
    
  • Debate and concerns:
    While blue hydrogen is considered a low-carbon option, some argue that it's not a truly "clean" or low-carbon alternative, and the process may not be as effective as advertised.
    
  • Comparison with other hydrogen types:
    Blue hydrogen is often compared to green hydrogen (produced from renewable energy sources) and grey hydrogen (produced from fossil fuels with no carbon capture).
    
    

 

[Taxslave2]

Are their red seal trades included .

Red Seal is interprovincial qualifications. There were quite literally hundreds of Ontario tradespeople at both Kitimat Smelter and LNG construction sites.

 

[Taxslave2]

We have been handed Russia's share of the global market on a silver platter. Saskatchewan tops the list of beneficiaries. We have everything except year round production of fruit and veg.

There is one shiny new market we can dominate without question being the energy superpower envisioned and its the one thing Liberals support. Hydrogen.

Carney keeps babbling about carbon capture.

Carney's Energy Chief Pushes Oil Sands to Build Carbon-Capture Systems

Canada’s new energy minister said it’s critical to build carbon-capture systems for the oil sands and identified crude and natural gas exports as a major priority f…

financialpost.com

The entire premise behind Blue Hydrogen is strip the carbon from hydrocarbons then stuff the carbon back into the ground it came from and use the green and clean hydrogen. Hydrogen can be distributed via the currently established natural gas infrastructure with little modification.


Blue hydrogen is a type of hydrogen fuel that is produced from natural gas, but with carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology. This means the carbon dioxide released during the natural gas reforming process is captured and stored, significantly reducing emissions compared to traditional natural gas-based hydrogen production.

Key points about blue hydrogen:

• • Production:
    Blue hydrogen is made by steam methane reforming (SMR), a process where natural gas is heated with steam in the presence of a catalyst, creating hydrogen and carbon dioxide.
  • Carbon Capture:
    The crucial distinction is that the carbon dioxide produced is captured and stored underground, preventing it from being released into the atmosphere.
  • Low-carbon alternative:
    Blue hydrogen is often described as a low-carbon fuel, as the CCS technology helps reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
  • Infrastructure development:
    It can also be used to support the development of hydrogen infrastructure.
  • Advantages:
    Blue hydrogen can be available at short notice and is sometimes seen as a low-CO2 option.
  • Debate and concerns:
    While blue hydrogen is considered a low-carbon option, some argue that it's not a truly "clean" or low-carbon alternative, and the process may not be as effective as advertised.
  • Comparison with other hydrogen types:
    Blue hydrogen is often compared to green hydrogen (produced from renewable energy sources) and grey hydrogen (produced from fossil fuels with no carbon capture).
    

I haven't been following the technology very close, since much is not really in use yet. Question being, can the CO2 be used in steel and concrete instead of sequestering?

 

[petros]

I haven't been following the technology very close, since much is not really in use yet. Question being, can the CO2 be used in steel and concrete instead of sequestering?

Blue Hydrogen first came around before Trudeau but Trudeau being Trudeau...he wants Green Hydrogen (from electricity). Which by the way hasn't budged in 3 years. It's money better spent elsewhere. Newfoundland's O&G is no slouch if invested in but...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/canada-germany-hydrogen-deal-1.7489515

Shell is actively involved in blue hydrogen projects in Canada, particularly in Alberta, utilizing natural gas to produce hydrogen and capturing carbon dioxide emissions for storage. The company is collaborating with partners like Mitsubishi to build blue hydrogen facilities near existing infrastructure like the Scotford refinery and the proposed Polaris CCS project.
Here's a more detailed look:
Shell's Blue Hydrogen Plans:
Shell is exploring the potential for large-scale blue hydrogen production in Alberta, with plans to use natural gas as a feedstock and capture CO2 emissions through carbon capture and storage (CCS) technologies like the Quest CCS facility.
Collaborations:
Shell has partnered with companies like Mitsubishi to develop blue hydrogen projects, including a memorandum of understanding to create a blue hydrogen production facility near the Scotford refinery.
Alberta's Hydrogen Hub:
The Edmonton region in Alberta has been designated as Canada's first hydrogen hub, and Shell is actively involved in developing projects within this hub.
Quest CCS Facility:
Shell's Quest CCS facility, located near Edmonton, is designed to capture and store CO2 emissions from hydrogen production and other industrial processes.
Carbon Capture and Storage:
Shell is focusing on capturing CO2 from hydrogen production processes and storing it underground, reducing emissions and enabling the production of blue hydrogen.
Potential Applications:
Blue hydrogen produced by Shell could be used for various applications, including refining processes and potentially exported to other markets like Japan.

Why bother? Cement made from cooking limestone with hydrogen takes it off the extremely dirty list.

Steel? Even better there is a new way to make steel with insanely low emissions using hydrogen.

Hydrogen-based direct reduction (H2-DRI) is a promising technology for producing low-carbon steel by using hydrogen to reduce iron ore, resulting in direct reduced iron (DRI) or sponge iron. This DRI is then processed in an electric arc furnace (EAF) to produce steel, according to Bellona Foundation. Unlike traditional blast furnace-basic oxygen furnace (BF-BOF) steelmaking, H2-DRI emits only water vapor, significantly reducing carbon emissions.

CO2 storage is extremely cheap and easy to accomplish in depleted gas fields and massive caverns in ancient salt.

Salt dome gas storage in Western Canada refers to the use of underground salt caverns created within naturally occurring salt domes to store natural gas, natural gas liquids (NGLs), and potentially hydrogen. These caverns offer a safe and stable environment for large-scale storage due to the impermeable nature of salt.

Key aspects of salt dome gas storage in Western Canada:

• Locations:
  Alberta and Saskatchewan are key areas for salt dome storage in Western Canada.
  
  
• Cavern Development:
  Salt caverns are formed by dissolving salt deposits underground, typically using water, creating a void that can be filled with compressed gas or other products.
  
  
• Products Stored:
  Besides natural gas, salt caverns are used for storing NGLs (propane, butane, ethylene, condensate) and are being explored for hydrogen storage.
  
  
• Benefits:
  Salt caverns are geologically stable and impermeable, providing a secure and efficient storage solution, particularly for large volumes.
  
  
• Examples:
  ATCO Energy Solutions has a significant salt cavern storage facility near Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, expanding its capacity for NGL storage. SaskEnergy operates six storage cavern facilities in Saskatchewan, according to SaskEnergy.
  
  
• Hydrogen Storage:
  Salt caverns are also being considered as a key component of the hydrogen economy, offering large-scale storage capacity and safety advantages compared to surface-level tanks.

Any questions?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Any questions?

Why is a sperm whales throat this big ?

Anyway, SASKATOON — Canada’s premiers are meeting with Prime Minister Mark Carney in person for the first time since the federal election to pitch which major projects they think should get fast-tracked.

The recent campaign saw Carney vow to slash federal approval times on major infrastructure projects considered to be in the national interest to help make the country an “energy superpower.”

Premier Scott Moe said he’s been clear in the interest Saskatchewan has in doing its part to make sure Canada achieves Carney’s goals — however, he reiterated that being an energy superpower means all forms of energy, including oil and gas.

The full list of big industrial projects they’re discussing is being kept secret, since they don’t want to send a bad signal about anything that doesn’t make the short list.

Premiers huddle with Carney in Saskatoon to decide what major projects to prioritize

Eleven Saskatchewan First Nations chiefs say they're upset and concerned that they've collectively been left out of the discussions during the First Ministers' meetings in Saskatoon.

www.cjme.com

Keep in mind this is the “Provincial Premiers” (=First Ministers) first meeting with the new PM…and not the First Ministers (=Provincial Premiers) & 11 Saskatchewan First Nations Chiefs meeting with the PM.

Eleven Saskatchewan First Nations chiefs say they’re upset and concerned that they’ve collectively been left out of the discussions during the First Ministers’ meetings in Saskatoon….even though they’re not first ministers (Provincial Premiers).

According to the Federation of Sovereign Indigenous Nations (FSIN) Vice Chief Dutch (Edward) Lerat, the exclusion represents a fundamental breach of the federal government’s constitutional obligations.

“The agenda items for the First Ministers’ meeting here in Saskatoon are internal trade, tariffs, pipelines, and major projects. These are all critical matters that directly impact our inherent treaty rights and constitutional rights, including rights to our lands, waters, medicines, and all living things,” he said, etc…

He said no one can deny the resources and critical minerals that are or will be extracted are from treaty and traditional lands.

“So, let’s be clear: any conversation about internal trade, tariffs, pipelines, or major projects must include our First Nations,” he added.

FSIN Vice Chief Craig McCallum said collectively that they’re not against development.

“We are for the protection of our lands, our sovereignty, and our right to determine our future, and that is up to our nations,” he said.

Other chiefs added that the wealth generated from resource development would should benefit everyone, including First Nations., and that while Prime Minister Mark Carney and the country’s premiers have been consistently speaking out against the way U.S. President Donald Trump has treated Canada, they feel as though Canada has treated them in the same manner, etc…

FSIN Chief Bobby Cameron also pointed out that his organization has filed a statement of claim against both the federal and provincial governments, alleging the Natural Resources Transfer Agreement (NRTA) signed in 1930 was both unlawful and illegal.

 

[petros]

Oh. So it IS aboot hydrocarbons?

Green beans can't argue against hydrogen producing water for emissions? They need coal to charge their Nazi Teslas?

 

[Taxslave2]

Why bother? Cement made from cooking limestone with hydrogen takes it off the extremely dirty list.

It has something to do with making concrete stronger. That was all I got from the article I read. The rest was fluff.

 

[Taxslave2]

Canada’s premiers are meeting with Prime Minister Mark Carney in person for the first time since the federal election to pitch which major projects they think should get fast-tracked.

Excep BC's Eby. He is off on an all expenses paid junket to Asia.

 

[Taxslave2]

Oh. So it IS aboot hydrocarbons?

Green beans can't argue against hydrogen producing water for emissions? They need coal to charge their Nazi Teslas?

Not really. It is more about money for nothing. The FNs have learned from Quebec how to game the system.