Hey, BTW, you thought I called you a ''conservative'' on the other thread. So, we're even!
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Al Gore Receives Nobel Peace Prize
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Hey, BTW, you thought I called you a ''conservative'' on the other thread. So, we're even!
;-)
To the far left does it matter because to the far left George W caused global warming and to the far left Global warming caused Katrina. Therefore by the law of transitivity.......
Al Gore said
The person with arguably the biggest carbon footprint in the world, the guy who has point blank refused to reduce his own gigantic emissions is condemning anybody???8O
Why do people listed to this blatant con man?
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The person with arguably the biggest carbon footprint in the world, the guy who has point blank refused to reduce his own gigantic emissions is condemning anybody???8O
Why do people listed to this blatant con man?
Yup. But thousands of representatives of environmental organizations, activists and opportunistic politicos also went as well, such as Stephan Dion and Al Gore, neither of whom was representing a government.
Let's see, that would be the same Al Gore who, as vice president in 1997 said regarding the Kyoto accord,
That's the Al Gore standard. Seems Bush is merely following Al's lead.
The same Al Gore who refuses to lessen his own emissions wants the rest of us poor fold to make the sacrifice
``law of transitivity``
Being a dyslexic, and seeing GW, I thought it was GWB.
But unlike you radical rightwingers, I acknowledged my error, he did not.
Being a dyslexic, and seeing GW, I thought it was GWB.
But unlike you radical rightwingers, I acknowledged my error, he did not.
Of course he refused to take the pledge. He is a hypocrit and they slapped the Nobel Peace Prize. What a joke. He is the worst man to lead the world on GW (Global Warming). A wealthy liberal who gobbles up as much fossil fuel than anyone, one who claims to be carbon neutral via carbon credits when in fact he is just buying stock in his carbon credit company. One who gives the Hollywood elite a years worth of carbon credits to live their lavish lifestyles free of guilt because they have a piece of paper. A piece of paper that has no backing with carbon credits because they were just issued by his company for the cost of only printing them.
One who's land in Tennessee is rife with pollution because of Zinc Mining. The company that works the mines have been caught dumping toxic waste in rivers and lands and Gore has only asked that they "try to find better ways" to mine Zinc. There is no better way Al. You deforest the land and strip the earth leaving a scar that will never heal. But as long as the $500K royalty checks keep coming in Al is ok with this!
Follow this guy? NEVER.
My favorite part of this was developing nations are looking for more tangible commitments from developed nations. Did anyone in this conference have the guts to take away the developing nations status from China, India, and Russia? What was said about that? So once again nations like the US and Canada will be called on to sacrifice while these three "developing" nations <cough> go full speed ahead unchecked. And every true developing nation will once again look for handouts in the tune of millions of our money so they can spend as they wish. They can recieve a huge chunk of dough, build a windmill and say they are in line. Once they have the money in hand who is to stop them from spending as they wish? No one.
EagleSmack,
Why should developing nation status be lifted? What's your reasoning for that? You think the farmers in China are on par with North American farmers? Absurd.
North American emissions per capita are well above that of any developing nation. Cough all you want, but a nation that is only now coming out of severe poverty has less responsibility than a nation like Canada. Should developing nations also be the first to lift punitive trade tariffs? Even more absurdity.
Russia isn't a developing nation.
Sheriff of Nottingham stuff. You do a fine job of regurgitating the standard tripe in the media.
All nations like China and India and Brazil are looking for, is a solid commitment from more affluent nations. They can barely get their GDP up on their own.
So what's your suggestion? Let's assume for the moment that the science isn't in contention, which I know very well you don't subscribe to.
Why should developing nation status be lifted? What's your reasoning for that? You think the farmers in China are on par with North American farmers? Absurd.
North American emissions per capita are well above that of any developing nation. Cough all you want, but a nation that is only now coming out of severe poverty has less responsibility than a nation like Canada. Should developing nations also be the first to lift punitive trade tariffs? Even more absurdity.
Russia isn't a developing nation.
Sheriff of Nottingham stuff. You do a fine job of regurgitating the standard tripe in the media.
All nations like China and India and Brazil are looking for, is a solid commitment from more affluent nations. They can barely get their GDP up on their own.
So what's your suggestion? Let's assume for the moment that the science isn't in contention, which I know very well you don't subscribe to.
W e could build some really nice really big sailing ships and very big zepplins too you know, if we wern't in such a damned stupid hurry all the time we could reduce CO2 in many ways useing very old technology.
Standard tripe Smack, STS, we got us a new nickname, hahahaha, tripe is good for breakfast too I guess. Hey STS how ya doin?:lol:
B eaver you believe the GW hype hmmmmm not what i expected at all .You don't see it for what it is fast trac the NAU and world goverment?Its about lowering our standard of living of course the Rothchilds and such will reap huge profits on this scam as well .Remember they own the media if its not in their intrests we'd have heard none of this at all
There is a very good reason that Gore did not win the nobel peace prize for science. He doesn't have actual scientific fact to back up his movie. He has scientific opinion,yet to be proved. Why the peace prize? WTF does GW and Climate change have to do with peace? Using the logic that 'saving the planet' contributes to peace,then anyone that develops anything that maybe helps out mankind would qualify. It is crap like this award to Gore and making Mugabe the chairman of sustainable economy that renders the UN as a socialistic joke.
Developing nation status should be lifted because they are not a developing county. Just because our farmers are a little better does not make them developing. I also do not think that their farming is that far behind as they successfully feed billions of people each day. China has an enormous and successfull economy, a massive and quite capable military and they even have a manned space program. How can you possibly call that a developing nation!
The reason why they were given a developing nation status was because the powers that be in this GW shakedown know for a fact that China would never and will never bow to their wishes. They would not even give the GW crowd a forum to complain. You know that the Chinese would smile and nod at the GW crowd and get no where. On the other hand it is easy to pick on the US.
The science is in fact in contention. You cannot separate the two. However I will play along...if we are in a planetary emergency EVERYONE should be onboard. Everyone should sacrifice even at the risk of their economies for the survival of the planet. That means the well to do as well as under developed nations. After all it is an emergency. That means just because you are a multi-millionare does not mean you STILL get to jet set and live a lavish lifestyle. Carbon credits are not enough because they are worthless and you are still consuming massive quantities of fossil fuels. Under developed nations must suffer along side of developed nations. You can't expect the developed nations to suffer as nations like China <bigger cough> plunge ahead.
No matter how you cut it, the citizens of developing nations are nowhere close to having the affluence, or benefits that developed nation citizens enjoy. Do they have the same infrastructure that developed nations enjoy? No.
Listen, I'm not cutting them any slack. They need to do their part as well. It's just a little hypocritical when the wealthiest nations are waiting for poorer nations to commit to a course of action that we can much more easily achieve.
It is easy to pick on the US, and it's just as easy to pick on Canada. Here's a simple demonstration. A water shortage. Rich citizens use much more water than poorer citizens. Is it fair for the rich to demand that poor people commit to reduce their consumption by 20% before they will?
Right, but this conversation will go in circles without agreeing on the principles. Speaks volumes about why nothing has been done, when there are still holdouts on the fact that there is a problem.
I don't expect poorer nations to suffer while nations like China plunge ahead. I already said that they should have more responsibility. You think we can get them to commit ahead of poorer nations, while we won't do the same? Definition of hypocrisy.