Ahmadinejad's UN Speech

[darkbeaver]

Full Text of Ahmadinejad's Speech to the UN General Assembly

By Haaretz Service
25/09/08 "Haaretz" -- The following is a copy of Iranian President Ahmadinejad's speech to the United Nations General Assembly early Wednesday morning, as translated by the Presidency of the Islamic Republic of Iran News Service:


Mr. President, E xcellencies,

I am grateful to the Almighty for granting me another opportunity to be present in this world Assembly.

In the last three years, I have talked to you about great hopes in the bright future of human society, and some solutions for achieving sustainable peace and expanding love, compassion, and cooperation.

I have also talked about unjust systems governing the world; pressures exerted by some powers seeking to trample the rights of other nations, oppression imposed on the majority of the global community, especially on the people of Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, Africa, Latin America, and Asia; about challenges we are faced with, such as efforts to shatter the sanctity of families, destroy cultures, humiliate lofty values, neglect commitments, expand the shadow of threats, as well as about the arms race and the unfairness and inability of the systems governing world affairs in reforming the status quo.

With the occurrence of various new developments, the debility of existing mechanisms has been revealed even more. However, at the same time, an encouraging trend, which has originated in the thoughts and beliefs of peoples, has blossomed and become stronger. Posed against the despairs caused by the new developments, this trend has ignited the ray of hope for a brilliant, desirable and beautiful future in the hearts of men.

Ladies and Gentlemen,
Dear Colleagues,

Today I would like to talk to you about the main reasons behind the conditions ruling the world and the means to tackle them. Of course, you are already aware of what I am talking about, but I think it is necessary to remind ourselves.

It seems that the roots of problems lie in the way one views and perceives the world and humankind, as well as in the important issues of freedom, obeisance to God, and justice. The world, humankind, freedom and obeisance to God, and justice, have been of utmost importance to humans throughout history.

1. The World:
God Almighty purposefully created the world. This world is the bedrock for the evolution and growth of a creature called man, and the laws governing the world and all other creatures are at the service of man's quest for loftiness. The world should provide the needed opportunities for the fulfillment of the purpose behind man's creation. No phenomenon, creature, or indeed anything has been created in vain. T

 

[darkbeaver]

This is one of the best speeches I have ever read. An entirely honest and inspireing plea to the nations of the world for peace and harmony and a scathing attack on the Zionist machine. I don't want to believe no one here cares for the truth.

 

[darkbeaver]

Ok I'll see if I can find the video.

 

[Colpy]

Thank you, DB, for posting this....I actually read most of it......

Now I'm completely convinced Iran can never be allowed to pssess nukes.....time for Israel to bomb'em back into the Stone Age.....materially. They never left there philosophically.

 

[thomaska]

Sure does seem to be a lot of that icky "god" stuff in there the libs go into seizures over...

 

[DurkaDurka]

Iran is owed a few bombs from Canada for the killing of our journalist a few years back...

 

[MHz]

Ok I'll see if I can find the video.

Watch some Russian politicians also if you can find some, they both make the west look like really bad actors when it comes to public speaking.

 

[MHz]

Iran is owed a few bombs from Canada for the killing of out journalist a few years back...

Who said covering university riots in a foreign country was not without risks. Didn't the CIA do the training for those secret police back then? That seems to have changed as witnessed by the treatment of UK troops held not so long ago, had that happened in the US or UK they would still be missing without even one report after their capture.

 

[darkbeaver]

Watch some Russian politicians also if you can find some, they both make the west look like really bad actors when it comes to public speaking.

I'v noticed that over the years MHz. It is important when ones own leaders become empty bags of foul wind. Public speaking will always prevail over corporate speaking. Our leaders are moneycentric thiers are lifecentric. Ours can't even talk let alone walk. Allthough Amhadinejads speach was floral it was rich and instructive in ideals and directions and full to the brim with good will and respect for the commonweal.Anyone can recognize the benevolent one god in his words, only a uncommon fool would spit on a mans plainly and humbly offered palm.

PS. we see and hear forigne leaders speaking to the experianced adult while here in the west we hear them pacify the stupified cattle.

 

[darkbeaver]

Iran is owed a few bombs from Canada for the killing of our journalist a few years back...

You should volunteer to carry them in Durka. We can start a drive for funding, I'll donate $10.00 toward your ticket to Iran and you can give them hell for us.:smile:

 

[earth_as_one]

Ahmadinejad is devoutly religious, but that hardly proves he is dangerous. He speaks out against injustice and oppression, but that hardly makes him dangerous either. No doubt he is against the ongoing ethnic cleansing in the Palestinian region over the last 60+ years.

But compare Theocratic Iran to their adversaries. This country has never started illegal wars of agression and expansion, nor have they violated any international agreements including the NPT unlike the US and the UK. Iranian minorities have less rights than the Shiite Muslim majority, but they have far more rights and freedoms than the people Israel oppresses.

If you read between the lines in this speech, he he more or less admits to arming resistance groups in Lebanon, Palestine and elsewhere. But given the military threat faced by his nation, that's not surprising.

But where in this speech did he call for Israel to be destroyed by war and violence? He calls for the destruction of the Zionist regime in Israel by peaceful means:

...The Islamic Republic of Iran, while fully respecting the resistance of the oppressed people of Palestine and expressing its all-out support for it, submits its humane solution based on a free referendum in Palestine for determining and establishing the type of state in the entire Palestinian lands to the distinguished Secretary General of the UN...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1024097.html

Seems to me he is not calling for Israeli Jews to be treated as poorly as they treat the millions of people who had the misfortune of living in "the land without people" before the "people without land" showed up.

Those of you who claim to believe in freedom and democracy should support giving everyone with a claim to living in Israel and the Occupied territories a free vote.

 

[#juan]

As an aside, in 1947 David Ben Gurion implied "that partition could never be an acceptable long-term solution: 'The Jewish people have always regarded, and will continue to regard Palestine as a whole, as a single country which is theirs in a national sense and will become theirs once again. No Jew will accept partition as a just and rightful solution.'[7] During the Congress, Ben Gurion supported the proposal to partition Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state.[8] At the same time, he delivered speeches which made it clear that he did not accept partition as a final solution: 'If I had been faced with the question: a Jewish state in the west of the land of Israel in return for giving up on our historical right to the entire land of Israel I would have postponed the establishment of the state. No Jew is entitled to give up the right of the Jewish nation to the land. It is not in the authority of any Jew or of any Jewish body; it is not even in the authority of the entire nation alive today to give up any part of the land'... ...'this is a standing right under all conditions. Even if, at any point, the Jews choose to decline it, they have no right to deprive future generations of it. Our right to the entire land exists and stands for ever."
What this means is that all of Palestine will eventually be Isreal.

 

[darkbeaver]

I'll support a free vote. Who decides who votes? All those living with a claim to Palestine naturally.

 

[darkbeaver]

Statement of Senator Obama on President Ahmadinejad's Remarks

By Amanda Scott

09/23/09 -- - Senator Obama's statement on President Ahmadinejad's Remarks...

I strongly condemn President Ahmadinejad's outrageous remarks at the United Nations, and am disappointed that he had a platform to air his hateful and anti-Semitic views. The threat from Iran's nuclear program is grave. Now is the time for Americans to unite on behalf of the strong sanctions that are needed to increase pressure on the Iranian regime.

Once again, I call upon Senator McCain to join me in supporting a bipartisan bill to increase pressure on the Iranian regime by allowing states and private companies to divest from companies doing business in Iran. The security of our ally Israel is too important to play partisan politics, and it is deeply disappointing that Senator McCain and a few of his allies in Congress feel otherwise.

 

[Dixie Cup]

"It seems that the roots of problems lie in the way one views and perceives the world and humankind, as well as in the important issues of freedom, obeisance to God, and justice. The world, humankind, freedom and obeisance to God, and justice, have been of utmost importance to humans throughout history."

Sooooooo, I don't understand. It seems that his "understanding" of these values are quite different from ours. How is demandingan observance by all to what you believe "freedom and obeisance to God, and justice?" My brother was in Iran many years ago and got to know the Irainians. He said they are a loving an peaceful people but the demands of their government to abide by what the government perceives is right and just is so overwhelmingly dictated, individual freedoms and expression are non-existant. Oh, and remember, there are no homosexuals in Iran.

Yeh, right!!

JMO

 

[earth_as_one]

Ahmadinejad's speech was mostly pre-election rhetoric:

...Ahmadinejad's speech, this last year of his first term in office, was even more geared to an Iranian domestic audience than in years past. Indeed, that was the central purpose of this trip to the U.S., something that become increasingly evident as the trip wore on. When I was in Tehran at the end of this summer, there was much talk of former President Khatami's thinking of mounting a challenge to Ahmadinejad in 2009,...

...To the viewing audience in Iran, Ahmadinejad's speech was another defiant statement that Iran would not be bullied into giving up its rights, nuclear and otherwise -- and the logic he employed, perhaps lost to Western ears amid the inflammatory anti-Zionist tirade, was not altogether flawed. Iranians, and indeed many in the Third World, see a certain hypocrisy in the U.S. position: that Iran, a country that doesn't possess nuclear weapons and has not invaded or attacked another country in centuries, must not be allowed certain nuclear technologies (that might allow them to one day build an atomic bomb), while the U.S. itself is in breach of its disarmament obligations, builds new generations of nuclear weapons and is the only nation to have ever used them to attack another country. (Not to mention, under the Bush administration, regularly threatens other countries with military force or even invades them.)

Ahmadinejad knows that this argument doesn't win many fans in the U.S., but it plays well to a domestic audience predisposed to believe that American foreign policy is hegemonic by nature. Ahmadinejad also knows that the anti-Zionist rhetoric plays well in Iran, as it does across the Arab world. Only the intellectual and highly educated classes in the region find it self-defeating if not noxious -- and the Iranians in this class are in any event unlikely to be voting for him in 2009. Well aware of a powerful political movement back home to challenge him for the presidency next June, he likes to use his visits to New York to burnish his image as a defender of Iranian rights. Nor does it hurt to have on display his status as a world leader afforded wide media coverage, his cultivated image of piety, and his willingness to engage Americans and even the U.S. government...

...A few days before he left Tehran, Ahmadinejad had said at a press conference that he would be interested in debating the two U.S. presidential candidates during his stay in New York...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/25/ahmadinejad_campaigns/

I can understand why neither McCain nor Obama would risk debating Ahmadinejad during an election campaign. But post election, whoever wins should take up his offer. But they should be prepared. Iran has a lot of points in their favor:

The US and Israel have violated international laws, treaties and conventions. Iran respects international laws treaties and conventions.

Iran has never attacked another country except in self defense, while both Israel and the US have started illegal wars of aggression.

Iran doesn't possess nukes, but Israel and the US do.

Iran has signed the NPT and there is no evidence it has ever violated any of the mandatory parts. Israel hasn't signed the NPT while the US has repeatedly violated the NPT.

Israel has ignored far more UN resolutions than Iran. The only UNSC resolutions against Iran, technically violate the NPT.