Abortion

[Reverend Blair]

The aborted fetus's are different. They have already been treated with such disrespect that I think doing more "tests" with them is going beyond disrespect.

Nonsense. They are useful material that would otherwise go to waste. They are no more special than a corpse from a car accident.

why is there no concern for embryo testing....?

Do you mean for gender, with female embryos being aborted? That can't be regulated by anybody but the doctors in reality. To try to regulate it using government intervention would affect testing for legitimate reasons and would be used as a wedge by the far right to limit access to abortion.

That's part of the problem with the anti-abortionists, they make it very difficult to address sub-issues.

 

[Reverend Blair]

The aborted fetus's are different. They have already been treated with such disrespect that I think doing more "tests" with them is going beyond disrespect.

Nonsense. They are useful material that would otherwise go to waste. They are no more special than a corpse from a car accident.

why is there no concern for embryo testing....?

Do you mean for gender, with female embryos being aborted? That can't be regulated by anybody but the doctors in reality. To try to regulate it using government intervention would affect testing for legitimate reasons and would be used as a wedge by the far right to limit access to abortion.

That's part of the problem with the anti-abortionists, they make it very difficult to address sub-issues.

 

[tibear]

Twila,

If your asking about testing with fertilized eggs, yes, pro-lifers do believe these are human remains.

Again, it comes down to your believe as to when life begins and when you believe the "sanctity" of life begins. Pro-lifers see these embryos as human.

Granted they aren't like you or I but the same can be said when comparing a elderly person on a ventilator with severe health issues to a healthy 6 year old. Both are human just at different stages of life.

Pro-life believers would equate this to giving birth to a child only to donate them to scientific research, we see the embryos as having the same dignity. These eggs shouldn't be fertilized just for research but allowed to "live" their lives.

Again, to reinforce the believe, when does life begin? Before asking a question regarding embryos, fetus,... would you be willing to have the same done to your child. Pro-lifers believe that all lives are equally precious. Pro-abortion supports don't believe this, that in my believe is the crux of the discussion.

 

[tibear]

Twila,

If your asking about testing with fertilized eggs, yes, pro-lifers do believe these are human remains.

Again, it comes down to your believe as to when life begins and when you believe the "sanctity" of life begins. Pro-lifers see these embryos as human.

Granted they aren't like you or I but the same can be said when comparing a elderly person on a ventilator with severe health issues to a healthy 6 year old. Both are human just at different stages of life.

Pro-life believers would equate this to giving birth to a child only to donate them to scientific research, we see the embryos as having the same dignity. These eggs shouldn't be fertilized just for research but allowed to "live" their lives.

Again, to reinforce the believe, when does life begin? Before asking a question regarding embryos, fetus,... would you be willing to have the same done to your child. Pro-lifers believe that all lives are equally precious. Pro-abortion supports don't believe this, that in my believe is the crux of the discussion.

 

[tibear]

Twila,

If your asking about testing with fertilized eggs, yes, pro-lifers do believe these are human remains.

Again, it comes down to your believe as to when life begins and when you believe the "sanctity" of life begins. Pro-lifers see these embryos as human.

Granted they aren't like you or I but the same can be said when comparing a elderly person on a ventilator with severe health issues to a healthy 6 year old. Both are human just at different stages of life.

Pro-life believers would equate this to giving birth to a child only to donate them to scientific research, we see the embryos as having the same dignity. These eggs shouldn't be fertilized just for research but allowed to "live" their lives.

Again, to reinforce the believe, when does life begin? Before asking a question regarding embryos, fetus,... would you be willing to have the same done to your child. Pro-lifers believe that all lives are equally precious. Pro-abortion supports don't believe this, that in my believe is the crux of the discussion.

 

[tibear]

RB,

That's part of the problem with the anti-abortionists

There are no "anti-abortionists" they are pro-life. They not only believe that abortion is killing of innocent life but that euthanasia and mercy killings also "rank" the level of life.

Pro-life believers believe that ALL life is precious and that it should be protected and valued.

 

[tibear]

RB,

That's part of the problem with the anti-abortionists

There are no "anti-abortionists" they are pro-life. They not only believe that abortion is killing of innocent life but that euthanasia and mercy killings also "rank" the level of life.

Pro-life believers believe that ALL life is precious and that it should be protected and valued.

 

[tibear]

RB,

That's part of the problem with the anti-abortionists

There are no "anti-abortionists" they are pro-life. They not only believe that abortion is killing of innocent life but that euthanasia and mercy killings also "rank" the level of life.

Pro-life believers believe that ALL life is precious and that it should be protected and valued.

 

[Reverend Blair]

No tibear, they are against abortion. That makes them anti-abortionists.

 

[Reverend Blair]

No tibear, they are against abortion. That makes them anti-abortionists.

 

[Reverend Blair]

No tibear, they are against abortion. That makes them anti-abortionists.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Abortion

I think a perfect example of the pro-life attitude towards life is the current pope.

I think everyone will agree that he is having many, many medical issues and that everyday life is very difficult for him. However, even though he knows personally the difficulties that life can sometimes have he recognizes the sanctity of life. He doesn't believe in euthanasia because it would be destroying life, even though it would ease his own personal suffering.

*sigh*...this from a brain-dead old fart that condemns the use of condoms so that the many millions of Catholics in Africa and elsewhere are dying of AIDS which has become an epidemic in many parts for the world for this very reason...this smacks of ethnic cleansing to me...

...the pope serves no useful function in any society and I would love to see the day he gets laid off... :twisted:

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Abortion

I think a perfect example of the pro-life attitude towards life is the current pope.

I think everyone will agree that he is having many, many medical issues and that everyday life is very difficult for him. However, even though he knows personally the difficulties that life can sometimes have he recognizes the sanctity of life. He doesn't believe in euthanasia because it would be destroying life, even though it would ease his own personal suffering.

*sigh*...this from a brain-dead old fart that condemns the use of condoms so that the many millions of Catholics in Africa and elsewhere are dying of AIDS which has become an epidemic in many parts for the world for this very reason...this smacks of ethnic cleansing to me...

...the pope serves no useful function in any society and I would love to see the day he gets laid off... :twisted:

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Abortion

I think a perfect example of the pro-life attitude towards life is the current pope.

I think everyone will agree that he is having many, many medical issues and that everyday life is very difficult for him. However, even though he knows personally the difficulties that life can sometimes have he recognizes the sanctity of life. He doesn't believe in euthanasia because it would be destroying life, even though it would ease his own personal suffering.

*sigh*...this from a brain-dead old fart that condemns the use of condoms so that the many millions of Catholics in Africa and elsewhere are dying of AIDS which has become an epidemic in many parts for the world for this very reason...this smacks of ethnic cleansing to me...

...the pope serves no useful function in any society and I would love to see the day he gets laid off... :twisted:

 

[peapod]

*yawn* the same guy that tells women in poverty who cannot feed the childern they have already they cannot use birth control...oh but alot of catholic women do anyway :roll:

Yes is to meaningful when you see him in his paper hat...waving..to bad he did not have a wand to make everything all better.
And no I don't get a darn thing out his suffering, he is being kept alive as some prop. Its like watching beetlejuice the way they carry on with all the pomp and circumstance.. grown men walking around with poles and hats and robes...I like the way latin sounds tho. :wink:

 

[peapod]

*yawn* the same guy that tells women in poverty who cannot feed the childern they have already they cannot use birth control...oh but alot of catholic women do anyway :roll:

Yes is to meaningful when you see him in his paper hat...waving..to bad he did not have a wand to make everything all better.
And no I don't get a darn thing out his suffering, he is being kept alive as some prop. Its like watching beetlejuice the way they carry on with all the pomp and circumstance.. grown men walking around with poles and hats and robes...I like the way latin sounds tho. :wink:

 

[peapod]

*yawn* the same guy that tells women in poverty who cannot feed the childern they have already they cannot use birth control...oh but alot of catholic women do anyway :roll:

Yes is to meaningful when you see him in his paper hat...waving..to bad he did not have a wand to make everything all better.
And no I don't get a darn thing out his suffering, he is being kept alive as some prop. Its like watching beetlejuice the way they carry on with all the pomp and circumstance.. grown men walking around with poles and hats and robes...I like the way latin sounds tho. :wink:

 

[edgerunner]

Abortion is all about choice. It is my body, my life and I really think that Freedom should grant me the right to choose what to do with me.
You do not even know me, so, Bug-Off, please!

 

[edgerunner]

Abortion is all about choice. It is my body, my life and I really think that Freedom should grant me the right to choose what to do with me.
You do not even know me, so, Bug-Off, please!

 

[edgerunner]

Abortion is all about choice. It is my body, my life and I really think that Freedom should grant me the right to choose what to do with me.
You do not even know me, so, Bug-Off, please!