Abortion

gerryh

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zenfisher said:
Ahhh...but that unfertilized egg is a potential human being. By your logic ( even though nature destroys it every month) That too is immoral, wrong and just plain murder.


try going back to school..... it is not a "potential"..... needs more than just what the egg has....


but this IS typical of the pro-abortion types...... rationalizing murder.... and trying to turn it with a few words.......
 

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Typical of anti abortionists ...when faced with bringing it down to individual cells they can't defeat the argument. What difference does it make if it unfertilized, if a sperm hasn't fertilized it.It is still a potential human being ... just like a fetus.

The sperm itself is a potential human being , by your logic. It is a big part of the whole process as well.

My education is fine.Thank you for your concern. You can't seem to defeat the argument, so I must have something on the go.

Life begins at birth. When the baby draws its first independent breath. Up to that point it is part of the Mother. It is her decision.
 

gerryh

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zenfisher said:
Typical of anti abortionists ...when faced with bringing it down to individual cells they can't defeat the argument. What difference does it make if it unfertilized, if a sperm hasn't fertilized it.It is still a potential human being ... just like a fetus.

The sperm itself is a potential human being , by your logic. It is a big part of the whole process as well.

My education is fine.Thank you for your concern. You can't seem to defeat the argument, so I must have something on the go.

Life begins at birth. When the baby draws its first independent breath. Up to that point it is part of the Mother. It is her decision.


1st... let's get it straight...I am pro-life.....There is a BIG difference.



Fine, the egg and the sperm are potential human life.... but when they join we no longer have a potential, but in fact have a human life. You and others might like to think that life is not human, or that it is even alive. This allows you to feel no guilt or remorse in supporting the termination of that life.

Kind of like the rationalization of those that support war with terms like "collateral damage". Allows them to feel no guilt or remorse for the deaths of so many thousands upon thousands of innocense.
 

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Jeezus, hurt - IT'S JUST YOUR MISSION IN LIFE to cruise around stirring up crap and busting up Forums - aint it?

What do we have to do - all learn SWAHILI, so you dont know what we're saying???



Brass-pole........
 

gerryh

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Ten Packs said:
Jeezus, hurt - IT'S JUST YOUR MISSION IN LIFE to cruise around stirring up crap and busting up Forums - aint it?

What do we have to do - all learn SWAHILI, so you dont know what we're saying???



Brass-pole........


Would you prefer I not voice my opinions????Actually.... that is a dumb question....lol


Yes.... it is my mission in life..... don't like it??? then flock off.
 

Ten Packs

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"Would you prefer I not voice my opinions????"


As a matter of fact - based on your disgusting, masogynistic and obscene performances in Gripe and Pickle Barrel?

YOU'RE F**KING RIGHT I WOULD!!!


Leave now, and save yourself the embarrassment you have endured over and over again, being booted from other sites.
Go pull wings off of flies or pin the ears of rabbits back.... something you would get some fun out of.
 

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Let me get this straight...if we pull the zygote out of the mother's womb ...it is capable of surviving on its own.

You think that you are "saving a human life" as a rationalization. This means you are now able to dictate what a woman can or can't do to her body.

That's the kind of rationalization that allows dictatorships to form. That's the kind of rationalization that allows theocratic governments to form. That's the kind of rationalization that has kept women under man's thumb for centuries. That's the kind of rationalization that allows one race to force another into slavery. That's the kind of rationalization that forced people into death camps. That's the kind of rationalization that will allow corporations to rule the world rather than governments. That's the kind of rationalization that will take us from free societies back into serfdom...I have more...
 

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Zen...
By your logic then we shouldn't go to any heroic measures for premies... stroke victims... anyone on life support. They're not capable of surviving on their own either.

Come to think of it, neither is a baby .
 

gerryh

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zenfisher said:
Let me get this straight...if we pull the zygote out of the mother's womb ...it is capable of surviving on its own.

You think that you are "saving a human life" as a rationalization. This means you are now able to dictate what a woman can or can't do to her body.

That's the kind of rationalization that allows dictatorships to form. That's the kind of rationalization that allows theocratic governments to form. That's the kind of rationalization that has kept women under man's thumb for centuries. That's the kind of rationalization that allows one race to force another into slavery. That's the kind of rationalization that forced peole into death camps. That's the kind of rationalization that will allow corporations to rule the world rather than governments. That's the kind of rationalization that will take us from free societies back into serfdom...I have more...


What a pile of horse pucky........ How about everyone take responsibility for their actions? But it's so much easier to use abortion as birth control and NOT take any responsibility. So much easier to just "clean" the malignant growth out of the system and carry on in your irresponsible way of life. More of the me, me, me, mentality.
 

gerryh

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Ten Packs said:
"Would you prefer I not voice my opinions????"


As a matter of fact - based on your disgusting, masogynistic and obscene performances in Gripe and Pickle Barrel?

YOU'RE F**KING RIGHT I WOULD!!!


Leave now, and save yourself the embarrassment you have endured over and over again, being booted from other sites.
Go pull wings off of flies or pin the ears of rabbits back.... something you would get some fun out of.


TP... go take a pill.... you don't like what I write....then don't read it.....

as for the "pickle barrel" comment.... what the hell are talking about?
 

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Ten Packs...
As a matter of fact - based on your disgusting, masogynistic and obscene performances in Gripe and Pickle Barrel?
I was under the impression that only a few people can access Gripe's Pickle Barrel. Regardless... whatever is posted there is hardly relevant here.

Brass pole? What's that mean?

Leave now, and save yourself the embarrassment you have endured over and over again, being booted from other sites.
As the kids say... you're not the boss of this site. I've been booted off a site or two myself... does that mean I'm not welcome here either? I don't recall reading that in the rules.
 

Ten Packs

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"As the kids say... you're not the boss of this site."

never intimated that I was, Lady C.... but I'm a member, and have a right to an opinion.


But I remember who would have "destruction" of a Site as their foremost objective. When I was a young'un, those kinda folks ustta be called a certain kind of "disturber".

Now they hide behind a cloak of "values", or "ethics", or even worse - the Cross. Hypocrits. I didnt have to HIDE my values - they were always there! For anyone to see, examine, ask me about, debate - or even take a poke at.

Not any more - folks now think they can INVADE a Site - turn it up side-down, and saunter off smugly when they have finished.



Uh-uh.... I have HAD it with having to seek another place because some self-serving moralist feels it's his right to wander all across the Internet; trolling for past aquaintances, re-living his brief moment of shooting his mouth off, screwing up other people's lives and entertainment... I kept my yap shut for quite a while when I first showed up here.
You don't like what you see when you get here, "hurt"?

Well, I got ONE ANSWER - Dont COME HERE!
 

Ten Packs

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I was under the impression that only a few people can access Gripe's Pickle Barrel. Regardless... whatever is posted there is hardly relevant here.

At first, it was quite open.... that privilege was quickly polluted - and something had to be done.

I think a person's past relations with others (or lack there-of) is MOST relevant.... an indicator of the future, don't you think?

Need I bring up the attempt at to operate the "Black Hole"???





FIVE YEARS! - That site just mossey-ed along with WELL less than a hundred regular members, wanted no hassle with anyone else - and now it's a SHAMBLES in the last 8 months.

I am sure "someone" is just so proud...... *insert "finger" icon*
 

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TenPacks said:
I think a person's past relations with others (or lack there-of) is MOST relevant.... an indicator of the future, don't you think?
No... I don't think, TenPacks. In fact I heartily disagree. When someone brings up stuff that goes/went on on another site it appears they're the one who is trolling/stalking.

And when you tell someone to "Leave now" and "Dont COME HERE!" it more than "intimates" you're trying to be the boss.

As for the Pickle Barrel... the first time I saw it it was down by the Admin section and was closed. It's closed now, so whatever you quote from there is suspect, as the rest of us have no way of reading it for ourselves.
 

LadyC

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TenPacks said:
Need I bring up the attempt at the "Black Hole"???

Seems you just did.

Gripe may have "moseyed along" but hardly without hassles. You forget... a few of you brought your "issues" to TO... one of whom had recently been banned. Seems he's here now... ;)

Care to get back on topic now?
 

Ten Packs

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That's pretty funny, Lady C - for a group of folks that only showed up to drag their PREVIOUS Bull-flop, from CKA or wherever, INTO Gripe - and wouldnt let it go until I STAYED UP UNTIL 3 in the morning - KILLING every Damn post that polluted the place!

Some thanks I got for it, too........


(which is why I am not there anymore, btw)
 

Ten Packs

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You can say what you will, Lady C - but everywhere I have seen him, GerryHurt has only shown himself to be a Trouble-maker, a Troll, and a Baiter...... You think I am making a move on THIS SITE?
I frankly don't give a damn if Rev bans me tomorrow!

PHAW! I moderate two other sites already - but they have more easy-going folks in them, and I have numerous Fellow-Mods.... so life's a real beach, ya know? LOL!


I dont have ANY power in this site - and I dont WANT any power in this site.... BUT I WILL BE DAMNED! if I see any site that I have faith in, corrupted and chiseled away at, by people like "Hurt", whose real only wish is the Destruction of it - to be just another notch on their belt!
 

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BUT I WILL BE DAMNED! if I see any site that I have faith in, corrupted and chiseled away at, by people like "Hurt", whose real only wish is the Destruction of it - to be just another notch on their belt!

I would not worry to much about that ten packs, andem is not going to allow his site to descend into the madness that happened at talk on.