Abortion
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zen,
The only time that the taking of another's life is when protecting a life(your own or someone else's). The war example is the same as the abortion issue when a mother's physical life is in danger. Both of these situation are acts that in fact save lives rather then letting someone die.
The only time that the taking of another's life is when protecting a life(your own or someone else's). The war example is the same as the abortion issue when a mother's physical life is in danger. Both of these situation are acts that in fact save lives rather then letting someone die.
zen,
The only time that the taking of another's life is when protecting a life(your own or someone else's). The war example is the same as the abortion issue when a mother's physical life is in danger. Both of these situation are acts that in fact save lives rather then letting someone die.
The only time that the taking of another's life is when protecting a life(your own or someone else's). The war example is the same as the abortion issue when a mother's physical life is in danger. Both of these situation are acts that in fact save lives rather then letting someone die.
zen,
The only time that the taking of another's life is when protecting a life(your own or someone else's). The war example is the same as the abortion issue when a mother's physical life is in danger. Both of these situation are acts that in fact save lives rather then letting someone die.
The only time that the taking of another's life is when protecting a life(your own or someone else's). The war example is the same as the abortion issue when a mother's physical life is in danger. Both of these situation are acts that in fact save lives rather then letting someone die.
You keep insisting that abortion is taking a life though, tibear. Many, including scientists and doctors, do not agree with you.
You keep insisting that abortion is taking a life though, tibear. Many, including scientists and doctors, do not agree with you.
You keep insisting that abortion is taking a life though, tibear. Many, including scientists and doctors, do not agree with you.
RB,
I will grant you many scientists and doctors believe this, however only during say the first trimester or perhaps parts of the second. However even these pro-abortion scientists and doctors will admit that at a certain point, the fetus is a child.
As well, most scientists and doctors believe that it is a child at a much younger stage. Perhaps when brain waves or a heart beat is detectable. Which is usually at the 10 - 12 weeks stage.
There are still other scientists and doctors who believe a child exists from the moment of conception.
I will grant you many scientists and doctors believe this, however only during say the first trimester or perhaps parts of the second. However even these pro-abortion scientists and doctors will admit that at a certain point, the fetus is a child.
As well, most scientists and doctors believe that it is a child at a much younger stage. Perhaps when brain waves or a heart beat is detectable. Which is usually at the 10 - 12 weeks stage.
There are still other scientists and doctors who believe a child exists from the moment of conception.
RB,
I will grant you many scientists and doctors believe this, however only during say the first trimester or perhaps parts of the second. However even these pro-abortion scientists and doctors will admit that at a certain point, the fetus is a child.
As well, most scientists and doctors believe that it is a child at a much younger stage. Perhaps when brain waves or a heart beat is detectable. Which is usually at the 10 - 12 weeks stage.
There are still other scientists and doctors who believe a child exists from the moment of conception.
I will grant you many scientists and doctors believe this, however only during say the first trimester or perhaps parts of the second. However even these pro-abortion scientists and doctors will admit that at a certain point, the fetus is a child.
As well, most scientists and doctors believe that it is a child at a much younger stage. Perhaps when brain waves or a heart beat is detectable. Which is usually at the 10 - 12 weeks stage.
There are still other scientists and doctors who believe a child exists from the moment of conception.
RB,
I will grant you many scientists and doctors believe this, however only during say the first trimester or perhaps parts of the second. However even these pro-abortion scientists and doctors will admit that at a certain point, the fetus is a child.
As well, most scientists and doctors believe that it is a child at a much younger stage. Perhaps when brain waves or a heart beat is detectable. Which is usually at the 10 - 12 weeks stage.
There are still other scientists and doctors who believe a child exists from the moment of conception.
I will grant you many scientists and doctors believe this, however only during say the first trimester or perhaps parts of the second. However even these pro-abortion scientists and doctors will admit that at a certain point, the fetus is a child.
As well, most scientists and doctors believe that it is a child at a much younger stage. Perhaps when brain waves or a heart beat is detectable. Which is usually at the 10 - 12 weeks stage.
There are still other scientists and doctors who believe a child exists from the moment of conception.
Actually, most scientists do not agree with you, tibear.
The variance in positions is exactly why it shuld be a decision made by a woman and her doctor though. You should let what happens in a woman's uterus be the responsibility of that woman tibear. You are a man and you are not a doctor. You've got no right to expect a say in this.
The variance in positions is exactly why it shuld be a decision made by a woman and her doctor though. You should let what happens in a woman's uterus be the responsibility of that woman tibear. You are a man and you are not a doctor. You've got no right to expect a say in this.
Personally I like what bill clinton said, abortion should be clean, cheap and rare. 8) Your so called "rules" of morality is so weak that you become zealot with trying to impose them others. Your rigid and inflexiable. You are a zealot. Your mind is narrow and any kind of change fill you with fear.
Your little book of "rules" has nothing to offer society. You are about repression, guilt, shame. It does not work anymore, the next generation behind me is even more on to you. You and your kind have brought nothing but misery and suffering to society.
All one has to do is go in a garden and see the diversity of life and nature, of which we are a part of, not above, a part of. You do the same thing with sexuality, again something complex and diverse, just like the gall wasp
:wink:
Your little book of "rules" has nothing to offer society. You are about repression, guilt, shame. It does not work anymore, the next generation behind me is even more on to you. You and your kind have brought nothing but misery and suffering to society.
All one has to do is go in a garden and see the diversity of life and nature, of which we are a part of, not above, a part of. You do the same thing with sexuality, again something complex and diverse, just like the gall wasp
:wink:Peapod,
Nice personal attack, but you fail to indicate where I'm being cold and heartless.
Is it when I want to support ALL women who are pregnant both before and after they give birth? Is it by promoting adoption in such a way that it makes it a more acceptable option to today's mothers?
All you've done is personally attack me without any direct evidence of your assertions. Unfortunately, none of those attacks get you any points in a debate.
BTW, as an advisor aren't you suppose to ensure that no personal attacks take place on this forum and not be one of the individuals who do the attacks???
Nice personal attack, but you fail to indicate where I'm being cold and heartless.
Is it when I want to support ALL women who are pregnant both before and after they give birth? Is it by promoting adoption in such a way that it makes it a more acceptable option to today's mothers?
All you've done is personally attack me without any direct evidence of your assertions. Unfortunately, none of those attacks get you any points in a debate.
BTW, as an advisor aren't you suppose to ensure that no personal attacks take place on this forum and not be one of the individuals who do the attacks???
RB,
Let me if I got this straight.
When a situation arises whereby people can't agree whether a fetus has rights, we should fall on the side of "doesn't have rights" and thus can be killed at anytime.
Is this really what you believe and want to stand behind??
Let me if I got this straight.
When a situation arises whereby people can't agree whether a fetus has rights, we should fall on the side of "doesn't have rights" and thus can be killed at anytime.
Is this really what you believe and want to stand behind??
Personal attack??? oh so you agree than trying to impose guit, represssion, and shame onto others is wrong than??
You can call it whatever you like, I did not say you were cold and heartless, I don't know if you are or not...I don't know you. But you are trying to impose a book of "rules" your "rules". What I am telling you is that your book of "rules" is not used by other humans, many people have their own "rules" they live by. You want to take away choice and that is what bothers me. You are allowed to believe what you like, give others the same benefit and allow them to believe what they choose.
You can call it whatever you like, I did not say you were cold and heartless, I don't know if you are or not...I don't know you. But you are trying to impose a book of "rules" your "rules". What I am telling you is that your book of "rules" is not used by other humans, many people have their own "rules" they live by. You want to take away choice and that is what bothers me. You are allowed to believe what you like, give others the same benefit and allow them to believe what they choose.
I don't see you supporting all women, tibear. I see you trying to persecute those who do not share your beliefs.
I stand behind a woman having the right to make her own decisions about her own body. Whether that means getting a tattoo, getting an abortion, or smoking a joint is none of my concern because it is her body.
I stand behind a woman having the right to make her own decisions about her own body. Whether that means getting a tattoo, getting an abortion, or smoking a joint is none of my concern because it is her body.
Pea,
As soon as you allow others the choice to do with their lives what they want. Unfortunately, you aren't prepared to do this. You force all of us to live by your standards.
Anyway, you don't go into the specifics of what I've actually posted. You assume things and then write them here as fact. I've been very open about my beliefs regarding the pro-life movement. Please show me how these pro-life beliefs "kill" anyone, unlike your pro-abortion views do.
I would like to belief that an administrator on a forum would ensure they deal with everyone on the forum in a respectful manner. I guess not.
As soon as you allow others the choice to do with their lives what they want. Unfortunately, you aren't prepared to do this. You force all of us to live by your standards.
Anyway, you don't go into the specifics of what I've actually posted. You assume things and then write them here as fact. I've been very open about my beliefs regarding the pro-life movement. Please show me how these pro-life beliefs "kill" anyone, unlike your pro-abortion views do.
I would like to belief that an administrator on a forum would ensure they deal with everyone on the forum in a respectful manner. I guess not.