Abortion -The poll is not based upon Religious belief - It is based ethics

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Tecumsehsbones

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Basically that is true
Could be, but lots of folks seem pretty bent outta shape about decisions women they don't know, and never will, are making about things that have no real chance of ever affecting them.

but a lot of the havoc and mayhem in the world is caused by poor decisions made by people we don't even know. -:)
Again, could be, but probably an equal amount of havoc and mayhem is caused by people we don't even know making good decisions. Good for them, that is.
 

JLM

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Could be, but lots of folks seem pretty bent outta shape about decisions women they don't know, and never will, are making about things that have no real chance of ever affecting them.


Again, could be, but probably an equal amount of havoc and mayhem is caused by people we don't even know making good decisions. Good for them, that is.

Yep, there is the old saying that most of the misery and grief in the world is caused by well meaning people!-:)
 

BornRuff

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what fu cking moral beliefs about "others"? It's already been said that other methods of contraception are not 100%, abstinence is, so why would it not be a viable form of contraception?

Nobody said it wasn't a viable method to not have a baby. You are advocating for taking away other methods though, which I don't agree with.

If you don't want to have sex, great, that is your choice. Other people should be able to make their own choices too.

Since as you mention, birth control methods are not 100% effective, abortion is an important option to have available when other things fail.

"I'm" using the child? YOU are advocating KILLING the child. All I'm saying is that people should be taking responsibility for their actions. Something you feel they shouldn't have to do.

Again with the morals. You have NO IDEA what my "morals" are, why do you keep bringing up this line as if you do?

This whole issue is 100% about your personal morals. There is nothing objectively wrong with having an abortion. It just comes down to what you believe.

You want having a child to be a consequence of not practicing abstinence. I disagree. If people practice safe sex but they fall into the percentage where those methods fail, I believe they should have an option. What do they have to "take responsibility" for in that situation?

Having a child shouldn't be a punishment. It should be something that people plan for and are eager to have.
 

gerryh

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Nobody said it wasn't a viable method to not have a baby. You are advocating for taking away other methods though, which I don't agree with.


Ok, let's start here. You show me where I have said, at any time since I joined this forum in 2004 where I have said that people should not be allowed to use birth control.
 

BornRuff

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Ok, let's start here. You show me where I have said, at any time since I joined this forum in 2004 where I have said that people should not be allowed to use birth control.

Who knows. You are explicitly advocating against one method though, which is abortion.

As we know. No birth control method is 100% effective. If they explicitly didn't want to have a baby and took necessary precautions, why shouldn't they have an option if the primary method of birth control fails?
 

gerryh

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Who knows. You are explicitly advocating against one method though, which is abortion.

As we know. No birth control method is 100% effective. If they explicitly didn't want to have a baby and took necessary precautions, why shouldn't they have an option if the primary method of birth control fails?


No no no....you have accused me of pushing my "mores" on others, and have accused me of saying that people can only use abstinence as birth control. YOU opened your fu cking mouth **** wad, now put your money where your mouth is. Quote where I said this about Birth Control. Show where I am pushing my "mores" and list those "mores" I am pushing. I am getting sick and tired of your bullshyte where you put words into others mouth and then argue against that. First thing forst, quote where I made these statements you have attributed to me.
 

BornRuff

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No no no....you have accused me of pushing my "mores" on others, and have accused me of saying that people can only use abstinence as birth control. YOU opened your fu cking mouth **** wad, now put your money where your mouth is. Quote where I said this about Birth Control. Show where I am pushing my "mores" and list those "mores" I am pushing. I am getting sick and tired of your bullshyte where you put words into others mouth and then argue against that. First thing forst, quote where I made these statements you have attributed to me.

Wow. I guess drunk posting is a bit of an epidemic on here eh?

You explicitly promoted abstinence as a "solution"(http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/125097-abortion-poll-not-based-upon-7.html#post1922648) and have said that otherwise people should "take responsibility for their actions".

I disagree with that. Abstinence is fine for some people, but it is a choice. Since other methods are not 100% effective, I don't think that people should be forced to have a baby if their method fails. I think having a choice when it comes to bringing people into their world is essential.
 

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I guess I may as well jump in with my two bits worth. I've always thought "birth control" is a procedure/device to prevent pregnancy!
 

gerryh

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Wow. I guess drunk posting is a bit of an epidemic on here eh?

You explicitly promoted abstinence as a "solution"(http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/125097-abortion-poll-not-based-upon-7.html#post1922648) and have said that otherwise people should "take responsibility for their actions".

I disagree with that. Abstinence is fine for some people, but it is a choice. Since other methods are not 100% effective, I don't think that people should be forced to have a baby if their method fails. I think having a choice when it comes to bringing people into their world is essential.


I guess when you can't back up your bullshyte you just ignore it. Good to know. Making false accusations is your forte.
 

BornRuff

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I guess I may as well jump in with my two bits worth. I've always thought "birth control" is a procedure/device to prevent pregnancy!

Meh, it is all really semantics, but it is called "birth" control, not "pregnancy" control.

I think everyone can agree that primary methods like condoms, pills, etc, should always be the first line of defense, but they are not 100% effective. Abortion plays an important role as a last resort if things go wrong.

I guess when you can't back up your bullshyte you just ignore it. Good to know. Making false accusations is your forte.

I linked directly to your post about abstinence. What more do you want?

Or should I say, what "mores" do you want?

Sleep it off buddy.
 

gerryh

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I guess I may as well jump in with my two bits worth. I've always thought "birth control" is a procedure/device to prevent pregnancy!


No no no, for the baby killers, abortion is a form of birth control too.

You've got the pill, condoms (both male and female) shots, morning after pill, tubals, vasectomy, abstinence, rhythm method, diaphram, and the be all and end all........ abortion. Where they cut the baby into tiny pieces and suck him/her out of the woman's womb to be thrown in the trash.

I linked directly to your post about abstinence. What more do you want?

Or should I say, what "mores" do you want?

Sleep it off buddy.


You accused me of advocating against other forms of birth control. Do I need to quote that post again? You accused me of pushing my mores. Back up those accusations.
 

JLM

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Meh, it is all really semantics, but it is called "birth" control, not "pregnancy" control.

I think everyone can agree that primary methods like condoms, pills, etc, should always be the first line of defense, but they are not 100% effective. Abortion plays an important role as a last resort if things go wrong.

Sometimes when everything goes wrong as a last resort you suck it up! -:)
 

PoliticalNick

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No no no, for the baby killers, abortion is a form of birth control too.

You've got the pill, condoms (both male and female) shots, morning after pill, tubals, vasectomy, abstinence, rhythm method, diaphram, and the be all and end all........ abortion. Where they cut the baby into tiny pieces and suck him/her out of the woman's womb to be thrown in the trash.




You accused me of advocating against other forms of birth control. Do I need to quote that post again? You accused me of pushing my mores. Back up those accusations.

Quit being a drama queen G. The procedure of cutting up a fetus is a thing of the past from when abortion was performed very late in a pregnancy. Most nowadays are done within the first 16 weeks when you can fit the entire fetus through a drinkng straw. As usual with those against abortion you wish to portray the most visceral graphic images of late-term abortions as the norm when in fact they are rare, almost extinct in North America.
 

BornRuff

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You accused me of advocating against other forms of birth control. Do I need to quote that post again? You accused me of pushing my mores. Back up those accusations.

Yes, other forms such as abortion. Do I need to quote your endless anti abortion posts?

Sometimes when everything goes wrong as a last resort you suck it up! -:)

Why would you have to do that when we have another option?