A two-state solution for Canada?
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Thats just politics as usual in Canada. Its how the NDP has managed to get so much of its agenda pushed through in the last decade, by selling their support to the gov't (be it Martin's Liberals or Harper's Conservatives), they just did it a little more behind closed doors, so it didn't offend peoples' sensibilities. All you can say about the Bloc in this case is that they are being a little more honest and up front about it.
You guys have some serious sicko's running around up there. B.C. just might be one place to cut loose from Canada.
VANCOUVER, British Columbia – The 100 dogs were shot dead over two days after an expected post-Olympics boon in dogsledding business at an adventure company didn't pan out. Most died instantly, but others suffered — like the one that ran away with its "face blown off and an eye hanging out."
The gruesome event was described in documents awarding compensation to a worker, who claimed post-traumatic stress disorder for having to shoot the dogs after bookings dropped sharply for a tour operator following the 2010 Winter Olympics.
100 dogs in Canada killed after business slows - Yahoo! News
VANCOUVER, British Columbia – The 100 dogs were shot dead over two days after an expected post-Olympics boon in dogsledding business at an adventure company didn't pan out. Most died instantly, but others suffered — like the one that ran away with its "face blown off and an eye hanging out."
The gruesome event was described in documents awarding compensation to a worker, who claimed post-traumatic stress disorder for having to shoot the dogs after bookings dropped sharply for a tour operator following the 2010 Winter Olympics.
100 dogs in Canada killed after business slows - Yahoo! News
That kind of sh*t happens when you don't have Ole Sparky at your disposal. :lol:
Well, if Quebec separates they are free to go and they can take their share of the debt, which is most of it, and f*** right off and get their own currency, passports, etc. they can live third world because they have no economy. We're not supporting them, I know that. If Quebec separates so will the West and we won't be paying their way anymore. We don't need the free loading bums in the East anyways. Manitoba west, with the territories should separate and let the bums in the rest of the country fall into the crap they deserve for ruining the country.
I propose that we trade em Even Steven for Sable Island. We populate the Island with Separatist's at low tide, come back with another bunch in 12 hrs.
True separation happens when one is willing to defend borders. Even if one knows he'll loose to defend those borders, the point is, it's going to cost blood, so do you really want to?
Therefore, your question really should have been: What would be your thoughts on Quebec setting up it's own militia reportable only to the National Assembly in Quebec City?
As for the rest of the mishmashing of sharing passports and currencies, take a look at Uncle Sam, and his experiences with Liberia (shared currency), Puerto Rico, and those little semi-autonomous things they jurisdict over in the pacific (Mariana Islands etc.)
You know, I was born in the USA, grew up in Alberta, have been working in BC, don't know a word of French other than "Oui, No" and "Voila Mousiour Tibout", but I've done some drives up and over the Gaspe Peninsula and through Quebec, and it didn't take long for one simple thing to become essentially clear,
There's just *one* thing they're ticked about and which Anglos are blank-brains about getting, which if you can get and take to heart, everything will be okay, because otherwise they really don't mind the order and economic benefits of the current system of Canadian organization.
It's this.
When they are in English Canada, English is the default language, and we have to go out of our way doing them a favor to find someone who speaks French to a monolingual French speaker, which they deal with.
Yet when we go to Quebec, we stomp around like it's a British right that they should by default be speaking English to us.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to learn a second language once past the age of about seven?
All you have to do is, when in Quebec, understand that the default language is French, therefore show some respect if they give you some English, because in that situation it is *they* doing you the favor.
Do that, and they might ditch that stupid BQ.
It has fragmented the politics of the nation enabling creepo's like Harper to weasel in to pass corporate tax-cut bills to send more profits back to New York while we hear every day how the social services that used to be paid for by the resources our ancestors fought mosquitoes to get for us be whittled away by Harper's American Plutocrat puppet masters.
I just don't get it. Paul Martin did the ultimate painful optimization of the budget, and got it to the point where spending had been whittled down to the lowest point required to maintain a western democracy while taking in enough revenue to pay off the debt with no corporation complaining, and dumb voters let in a guy who figured it wasn't enough to cut fat... that now we should cut bone.
How did those dumb voters get conned?
Because of the Sponsorship Scandal, where they wanted to blame everything upon the Ministry of Finance, as if Finance has anything to do with spending.
It doesn't. Finance deals with revenue.
Spending is done by TBS (Treasury Board Secretariat). *That's* the ministry which did not do it's job when the Sponsorship Scandal happened.
So why didn't the media ever go after the Minster of the Treasury Board?
I don't know. It's totally bizarre.
The only thing I can think of is it's because Martin was actually balanced in terms of compromising all interests in a post cold-war era where the Capitalists won and now they don't have to be nice to workers any more in order to convince said workers that life here is better than in the Soviet Union, such that the mass takeover of media by Plutocrats started in the late 70's after the damage they felt over the Pentagon papers swung its club to take Martin out just like they today hate Obama for trying to be balanced. (Except Obama's got an extra problem... in his case, he's trying to bring together people who's careers are based upon being obstinate... they don't really want good government).
Quebecers are pigs.
A big coincidence that Quebecers wrote the immigration laws and Quebec has received the least amount of immigrants since. Quebec can dictate that the immigrants must speak French but here in British Columbia we cannot dictate they speak English. My home town in British Columbia is completely unrecognizable and it's hard to find anyone speaking a word of English these days. Whereas, Quebec is still 98% Canadian.
Assholes in Montreal and Quebec using "divide and conquer" techniques to destroy Anglo-Canada but are now alarmed that we voted Reform and Conservative; en masse, since the 1990s and they have the guts to call us reactionary, racist, Anti-Quebec and every other term that pops into their heads and pretend they don't have a clue why everyone out west hates Quebec!
I don't ever want an Union with Quebec. Only thing I would ever give Quebec is a 22 megaton nuclear warhead on Quebec City.
A big coincidence that Quebecers wrote the immigration laws and Quebec has received the least amount of immigrants since. Quebec can dictate that the immigrants must speak French but here in British Columbia we cannot dictate they speak English. My home town in British Columbia is completely unrecognizable and it's hard to find anyone speaking a word of English these days. Whereas, Quebec is still 98% Canadian.
Assholes in Montreal and Quebec using "divide and conquer" techniques to destroy Anglo-Canada but are now alarmed that we voted Reform and Conservative; en masse, since the 1990s and they have the guts to call us reactionary, racist, Anti-Quebec and every other term that pops into their heads and pretend they don't have a clue why everyone out west hates Quebec!
I don't ever want an Union with Quebec. Only thing I would ever give Quebec is a 22 megaton nuclear warhead on Quebec City.
You're too stupid to imagine being an English speaking province like Alberta surrounded by every other province speaking French.
Either that or you're being bought off by the Montreal Jewish Lawyers working for New York.
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No, I can imagine such a scenario but that's not the situation in this country. Quebec imposes bilingualism and immigration on us and receives preferential treatment from the Federal Government
Quebec is avoiding the inevitable. The Lousianian French have since been assimilated in the United States. Quebec should have been assimilated decades ago but I owe that of being a failure of Anglo-speaking politicians in the 1870s; who feared Quebec annexation into the United States, and instead used appeasement to maintain our union.
Or alternatively, I would blame the Yankees for not pursuing the annexation of the Prairies and British Columbia.
Oh gosh... could it be because they are the largest single population voting bloc?
Actually, from what you said, it sounds like they are being themselves in order to *not* be "inevitable". In order to *not* become like the Louisianan French.
Why should the roll over and become Louisianian French?
I know you're not going to come up with the next answer so I'm going to help you.
It's called population.
Who the f@#ck taught you history? The only time Quebec was in "danger" of being assimilated into the US was during the American Revolution, but *oops*... they didn't speak English.
You are out of your mind.
I grew up next to the location in southern Alberta which was the American station claiming Canada north of 54, and guess what the solution to that question was?
Evidently you've never heard of RCMP.
Are you from Montreal?
Then stop whining and push for measures in your own province to protect the English language. Don't blame Quebec for your home town's problems. We've decided to take our linguistic future into our own hands, with all the challenges that come with it. Perhaps that should be an inspiration to other provinces.
Take off your tin foil hat.
You already have one.
I guess that says everything I need to know about you.
Alberta should separate from Canada. It has been carrying Canada for a long time and it gets no special benifits from all the money it contributes to Canada.
AB would be a very rich province (country) if it didn't dole out billions and billions of dollars in equalization payments.
AB does not need Canada, Canada needs AB !!
I say separate and stop giving money to Quebec so they can have a better life than Albertans.
AB would be a very rich province (country) if it didn't dole out billions and billions of dollars in equalization payments.
AB does not need Canada, Canada needs AB !!
I say separate and stop giving money to Quebec so they can have a better life than Albertans.
While Alberta may be rich (temporarily) it is also a "one song band"................................oil. B.C. actually has a much more diversified economy. For one thing Alberta is land locked, so exports to markets is curtailed somewhat. Better rethink that scheme.
Yes, it is landlocked, but it does have a diversivified economy, oil happens to outweigh the other parts of it's economy.
AB would do very well on it's own. It only ever drew on equalization once about 50 yrs ago. But if it ever did need money it could easily raise it in the markets.
AB would do very well on it's own. It only ever drew on equalization once about 50 yrs ago. But if it ever did need money it could easily raise it in the markets.