never trust anyone with blue eyes they be of the beelzebubsterPrime Minister Stephen Harper is wrong.
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A selection of quotes from the Maclean's federal leaders' debate
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Rt. Hon. Stephen Harper: Thank you, Paul.
Hon. Thomas Mulcair: Thank you, Paul.
Elizabeth May: Thank you, and I also want to thank Maclean’s and Rogers.
Justin Trudeau: Mr. Harper has spent millions of dollars on attack ads trying to convince you that I’m not ready for this job.
[...] And after ten years of Mr. Harper, so do we.
Paul Wells: Thank you, Mr.—
Justin Trudeau: That’s why I’m in this. That’s why I want to be your Prime Minister.
Paul Wells: Thank you, Mr. Trudeau.
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair: Thank you, Paul.
Elizabeth May: Thank you, and I also want to thank Maclean’s and Rogers.
Justin Trudeau: Mr. Harper has spent millions of dollars on attack ads trying to convince you that I’m not ready for this job.
[...] And after ten years of Mr. Harper, so do we.
Paul Wells: Thank you, Mr.—
Justin Trudeau: That’s why I’m in this. That’s why I want to be your Prime Minister.
Paul Wells: Thank you, Mr. Trudeau.
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This is a perfect example how the CBC injects their layer of partisan politics onto a federal election. Rather than just reporting the facts, they are arrogant to think that we need the information all nicely packaged and summarized. If at the end of this debate, we take away talking points from the CBC, then we are the good little sheep the CBC thinks we are.
Seriously folks. I think everyone needs to work very hard at preserving a sovereign. style of free thinking. The biggest long term threat here is not what Mulcair said to Trudeau, and what Trudeau said to Mulcair. That is less important than the CBC style of 'TV programming' our free thought away. Am I making any sense here? I think this would be a good topic to create a thread on. How do we think independantly from tv programming? How did we make decisions free of outside influence? How do we make decisions outside of other's agendas?
It is ok to draw your own conclusions from the debate. If they happen to be the same conclusions as the CBC, then atleast you got there on your own.
Seriously folks. I think everyone needs to work very hard at preserving a sovereign. style of free thinking. The biggest long term threat here is not what Mulcair said to Trudeau, and what Trudeau said to Mulcair. That is less important than the CBC style of 'TV programming' our free thought away. Am I making any sense here? I think this would be a good topic to create a thread on. How do we think independantly from tv programming? How did we make decisions free of outside influence? How do we make decisions outside of other's agendas?
It is ok to draw your own conclusions from the debate. If they happen to be the same conclusions as the CBC, then atleast you got there on your own.
Utah set to be home of first oilsands mine project in U.S. by end of 2015 | Financial Post
... Those damned dirty oil projects that BHO hates
A lot of good critical revelations coming out of this debate.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
ottawacitizen.com
Thursday’s federal leaders’ debate produced some passionate statements from Conservative leader Stephen Harper about the danger terrorism poses to national security. They included an aggressive defence of his government’s divisive Bill C-51, the legislation giving sweeping powers to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the RCMP to thwart suspected threats.
Here’s the spin, and a few facts to add context.
The Spin:
“What we did in developing our legislation is we looked at what modern powers police and security agencies have across our allies, and we’ve made sure that we are up to those standards.” – Stephen Harper
The Facts:
Recent reviews of national security laws in other western countries, including Canada’s closest allies, found no instance of a true precedent for new CSIS powers. Academics Craig Forcese and Kent Roach, leading experts on national security law, concluded: “Canada is not ‘catching up to allies’. It appears to be on an adventure of its own.”
The Spin:
“We have moved our oversight in a very different direction, not having politicians do oversight. We have oversight done by independent experts, by people who are experts in the field, an independent committee. When it comes to the operations of security agencies, I don’t think those things should be politicized or done by politicians. I think they should be done by experts and by judges.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
Canada’s chief body monitoring security intelligence operations is the independent civilian agency, the Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC). It reviews selected CSIS activities to ensure its spying is lawful. It employs subject-matter experts and is headed by a five-member panel of former politicians and other privy councillors. Its latest chair is Pierre Blais, former chief justice of the Federal Court of Appeal and a cabinet minister in the Progressive Conservative governments of Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell.
Others who had sat on SIRC include former Reform Party MP Deborah Grey; former Tory MP Chuck Strahl; Philippe Couillard, now Liberal premier of Quebec; Frances Lankin, former Ontario NDP MPP; Gary Filmon, former Progressive Conservative premier of Manitoba; Roy Romanow, former NDP premier of Saskatchewan; Frank McKenna, former Liberal premier of New Brunswick; Bob Rae, former NDP premier of Ontario and later federal Liberal MP; and others.
The Spin:
“I think (the current model) is a robust system of oversight.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
“Oversight” implies involvement in the active political decision-making or operational decision-making. SIRC, established in 1984, is not involved in CSIS’s operational decision-making. It was purposely devised to be a limited, after-the-fact “review” body – not an all-seeing “oversight” committee that would vet spy operations.
Direct, real-time oversight of CSIS used to be the responsibility of an inspector general, whose job was to keep the minister of Public Safety informed about the spy agency’s ongoing operations. The Conservative government abolished the office in 2012.
Meanwhile, Jean-Pierre Plouffe, a former civilian and military judge, is Commissioner of the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Canada’s foreign intelligence signals agency. Despite the title, Plouffe is the CSE watchdog. But his prime responsibility is to review, not oversee, CSE activities to ensure they are lawful.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
ottawacitizen.com
Thursday’s federal leaders’ debate produced some passionate statements from Conservative leader Stephen Harper about the danger terrorism poses to national security. They included an aggressive defence of his government’s divisive Bill C-51, the legislation giving sweeping powers to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the RCMP to thwart suspected threats.
Here’s the spin, and a few facts to add context.
The Spin:
“What we did in developing our legislation is we looked at what modern powers police and security agencies have across our allies, and we’ve made sure that we are up to those standards.” – Stephen Harper
The Facts:
Recent reviews of national security laws in other western countries, including Canada’s closest allies, found no instance of a true precedent for new CSIS powers. Academics Craig Forcese and Kent Roach, leading experts on national security law, concluded: “Canada is not ‘catching up to allies’. It appears to be on an adventure of its own.”
The Spin:
“We have moved our oversight in a very different direction, not having politicians do oversight. We have oversight done by independent experts, by people who are experts in the field, an independent committee. When it comes to the operations of security agencies, I don’t think those things should be politicized or done by politicians. I think they should be done by experts and by judges.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
Canada’s chief body monitoring security intelligence operations is the independent civilian agency, the Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC). It reviews selected CSIS activities to ensure its spying is lawful. It employs subject-matter experts and is headed by a five-member panel of former politicians and other privy councillors. Its latest chair is Pierre Blais, former chief justice of the Federal Court of Appeal and a cabinet minister in the Progressive Conservative governments of Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell.
Others who had sat on SIRC include former Reform Party MP Deborah Grey; former Tory MP Chuck Strahl; Philippe Couillard, now Liberal premier of Quebec; Frances Lankin, former Ontario NDP MPP; Gary Filmon, former Progressive Conservative premier of Manitoba; Roy Romanow, former NDP premier of Saskatchewan; Frank McKenna, former Liberal premier of New Brunswick; Bob Rae, former NDP premier of Ontario and later federal Liberal MP; and others.
The Spin:
“I think (the current model) is a robust system of oversight.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
“Oversight” implies involvement in the active political decision-making or operational decision-making. SIRC, established in 1984, is not involved in CSIS’s operational decision-making. It was purposely devised to be a limited, after-the-fact “review” body – not an all-seeing “oversight” committee that would vet spy operations.
Direct, real-time oversight of CSIS used to be the responsibility of an inspector general, whose job was to keep the minister of Public Safety informed about the spy agency’s ongoing operations. The Conservative government abolished the office in 2012.
Meanwhile, Jean-Pierre Plouffe, a former civilian and military judge, is Commissioner of the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Canada’s foreign intelligence signals agency. Despite the title, Plouffe is the CSE watchdog. But his prime responsibility is to review, not oversee, CSE activities to ensure they are lawful.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
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He only hates the ones he can't impose a carbon tax on.
Now THAT is spin.A lot of good critical revelations coming out of this debate.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
ottawacitizen.com
Thursday’s federal leaders’ debate produced some passionate statements from Conservative leader Stephen Harper about the danger terrorism poses to national security. They included an aggressive defence of his government’s divisive Bill C-51, the legislation giving sweeping powers to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the RCMP to thwart suspected threats.
Here’s the spin, and a few facts to add context.
The Spin:
“What we did in developing our legislation is we looked at what modern powers police and security agencies have across our allies, and we’ve made sure that we are up to those standards.” – Stephen Harper
The Facts:
Recent reviews of national security laws in other western countries, including Canada’s closest allies, found no instance of a true precedent for new CSIS powers. Academics Craig Forcese and Kent Roach, leading experts on national security law, concluded: “Canada is not ‘catching up to allies’. It appears to be on an adventure of its own.”
The Spin:
“We have moved our oversight in a very different direction, not having politicians do oversight. We have oversight done by independent experts, by people who are experts in the field, an independent committee. When it comes to the operations of security agencies, I don’t think those things should be politicized or done by politicians. I think they should be done by experts and by judges.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
Canada’s chief body monitoring security intelligence operations is the independent civilian agency, the Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC). It reviews selected CSIS activities to ensure its spying is lawful. It employs subject-matter experts and is headed by a five-member panel of former politicians and other privy councillors. Its latest chair is Pierre Blais, former chief justice of the Federal Court of Appeal and a cabinet minister in the Progressive Conservative governments of Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell.
Others who had sat on SIRC include former Reform Party MP Deborah Grey; former Tory MP Chuck Strahl; Philippe Couillard, now Liberal premier of Quebec; Frances Lankin, former Ontario NDP MPP; Gary Filmon, former Progressive Conservative premier of Manitoba; Roy Romanow, former NDP premier of Saskatchewan; Frank McKenna, former Liberal premier of New Brunswick; Bob Rae, former NDP premier of Ontario and later federal Liberal MP; and others.
The Spin:
“I think (the current model) is a robust system of oversight.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
“Oversight” implies involvement in the active political decision-making or operational decision-making. SIRC, established in 1984, is not involved in CSIS’s operational decision-making. It was purposely devised to be a limited, after-the-fact “review” body – not an all-seeing “oversight” committee that would vet spy operations.
Direct, real-time oversight of CSIS used to be the responsibility of an inspector general, whose job was to keep the minister of Public Safety informed about the spy agency’s ongoing operations. The Conservative government abolished the office in 2012.
Meanwhile, Jean-Pierre Plouffe, a former civilian and military judge, is Commissioner of the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Canada’s foreign intelligence signals agency. Despite the title, Plouffe is the CSE watchdog. But his prime responsibility is to review, not oversee, CSE activities to ensure they are lawful.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
A lot of good critical revelations coming out of this debate.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
ottawacitizen.com
Thursday’s federal leaders’ debate produced some passionate statements from Conservative leader Stephen Harper about the danger terrorism poses to national security. They included an aggressive defence of his government’s divisive Bill C-51, the legislation giving sweeping powers to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the RCMP to thwart suspected threats.
Here’s the spin, and a few facts to add context.
The Spin:
“What we did in developing our legislation is we looked at what modern powers police and security agencies have across our allies, and we’ve made sure that we are up to those standards.” – Stephen Harper
The Facts:
Recent reviews of national security laws in other western countries, including Canada’s closest allies, found no instance of a true precedent for new CSIS powers. Academics Craig Forcese and Kent Roach, leading experts on national security law, concluded: “Canada is not ‘catching up to allies’. It appears to be on an adventure of its own.”
The Spin:
“We have moved our oversight in a very different direction, not having politicians do oversight. We have oversight done by independent experts, by people who are experts in the field, an independent committee. When it comes to the operations of security agencies, I don’t think those things should be politicized or done by politicians. I think they should be done by experts and by judges.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
Canada’s chief body monitoring security intelligence operations is the independent civilian agency, the Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC). It reviews selected CSIS activities to ensure its spying is lawful. It employs subject-matter experts and is headed by a five-member panel of former politicians and other privy councillors. Its latest chair is Pierre Blais, former chief justice of the Federal Court of Appeal and a cabinet minister in the Progressive Conservative governments of Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell.
Others who had sat on SIRC include former Reform Party MP Deborah Grey; former Tory MP Chuck Strahl; Philippe Couillard, now Liberal premier of Quebec; Frances Lankin, former Ontario NDP MPP; Gary Filmon, former Progressive Conservative premier of Manitoba; Roy Romanow, former NDP premier of Saskatchewan; Frank McKenna, former Liberal premier of New Brunswick; Bob Rae, former NDP premier of Ontario and later federal Liberal MP; and others.
The Spin:
“I think (the current model) is a robust system of oversight.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
“Oversight” implies involvement in the active political decision-making or operational decision-making. SIRC, established in 1984, is not involved in CSIS’s operational decision-making. It was purposely devised to be a limited, after-the-fact “review” body – not an all-seeing “oversight” committee that would vet spy operations.
Direct, real-time oversight of CSIS used to be the responsibility of an inspector general, whose job was to keep the minister of Public Safety informed about the spy agency’s ongoing operations. The Conservative government abolished the office in 2012.
Meanwhile, Jean-Pierre Plouffe, a former civilian and military judge, is Commissioner of the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Canada’s foreign intelligence signals agency. Despite the title, Plouffe is the CSE watchdog. But his prime responsibility is to review, not oversee, CSE activities to ensure they are lawful.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
Perhaps tell us what YOU would have done, all knowing flossie. You are no better than the candidates, running your mouth, but actually worse because you just C P someone elses garbage.
So the Ottawa Citizen is your god now .A lot of good critical revelations coming out of this debate.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
ottawacitizen.com
Thursday’s federal leaders’ debate produced some passionate statements from Conservative leader Stephen Harper about the danger terrorism poses to national security. They included an aggressive defence of his government’s divisive Bill C-51, the legislation giving sweeping powers to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the RCMP to thwart suspected threats.
Here’s the spin, and a few facts to add context.
The Spin:
“What we did in developing our legislation is we looked at what modern powers police and security agencies have across our allies, and we’ve made sure that we are up to those standards.” – Stephen Harper
The Facts:
Recent reviews of national security laws in other western countries, including Canada’s closest allies, found no instance of a true precedent for new CSIS powers. Academics Craig Forcese and Kent Roach, leading experts on national security law, concluded: “Canada is not ‘catching up to allies’. It appears to be on an adventure of its own.”
The Spin:
“We have moved our oversight in a very different direction, not having politicians do oversight. We have oversight done by independent experts, by people who are experts in the field, an independent committee. When it comes to the operations of security agencies, I don’t think those things should be politicized or done by politicians. I think they should be done by experts and by judges.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
Canada’s chief body monitoring security intelligence operations is the independent civilian agency, the Security Intelligence Review Committee (SIRC). It reviews selected CSIS activities to ensure its spying is lawful. It employs subject-matter experts and is headed by a five-member panel of former politicians and other privy councillors. Its latest chair is Pierre Blais, former chief justice of the Federal Court of Appeal and a cabinet minister in the Progressive Conservative governments of Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell.
Others who had sat on SIRC include former Reform Party MP Deborah Grey; former Tory MP Chuck Strahl; Philippe Couillard, now Liberal premier of Quebec; Frances Lankin, former Ontario NDP MPP; Gary Filmon, former Progressive Conservative premier of Manitoba; Roy Romanow, former NDP premier of Saskatchewan; Frank McKenna, former Liberal premier of New Brunswick; Bob Rae, former NDP premier of Ontario and later federal Liberal MP; and others.
The Spin:
“I think (the current model) is a robust system of oversight.” – Stephen Harper.
The Facts:
“Oversight” implies involvement in the active political decision-making or operational decision-making. SIRC, established in 1984, is not involved in CSIS’s operational decision-making. It was purposely devised to be a limited, after-the-fact “review” body – not an all-seeing “oversight” committee that would vet spy operations.
Direct, real-time oversight of CSIS used to be the responsibility of an inspector general, whose job was to keep the minister of Public Safety informed about the spy agency’s ongoing operations. The Conservative government abolished the office in 2012.
Meanwhile, Jean-Pierre Plouffe, a former civilian and military judge, is Commissioner of the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Canada’s foreign intelligence signals agency. Despite the title, Plouffe is the CSE watchdog. But his prime responsibility is to review, not oversee, CSE activities to ensure they are lawful.
Reality Check: Stephen Harper’s take on the anti-terror bill | Ottawa Citizen
re: OP title:
receives a thumbs down from his flossiness.
I suppose because it made him all mad or something.
a quote;
from the debate.
true story. :lol:
receives a thumbs down from his flossiness.
I suppose because it made him all mad or something.
a quote;
from the debate.
true story. :lol:
these people managed to avoid moose attacks.
other non-ungulate-related incidents:
Islamist
- December 14, 1999 - Ahmed Ressam, known as the Millenium Bomber, was arrested upon entering the United States by a ferry from Victoria, British Columbia. He was smuggling explosives in his car from Canada as part of a plot to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on New Year's Eve 1999, as part of the foiled 2000 millennium attack plots.
- 2006 - In the 2006 Ontario terrorism plot, Canadian counter-terrorism forces arrested 18 terrorists (dubbed the "Toronto 18") inspired by al-Qaeda. They were accused of planning to detonate truck bombs, to open fire in a crowded area, and to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower, to take hostages and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders.
- August 2010 - Misbahuddin Ahmed of Ottawa was arrested (later convicted in July 2014) of knowingly facilitating a terrorist activity and participation in the activities of a terrorist group.[8][9]
- 2013 - The head of Canada’s spy service Richard Fadden has told Parliament that the fragmenting of al-Qaeda has made him more “worried” about terrorist attacks in Canada. He warned that Canadians are involved in every al-Qaeda affiliate group and that these groups have mentioned Canada as a possible target.[10][11]
- 2013 - Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser of Montreal and Toronto, respectively, charged as part of an alleged Al Qaeda plot to derail a New York to Toronto train on the Canadian side of the border. Alleged plot was not imminent.[citation needed] Canadian Muslims helped to foil the alleged plot.[12] The suspects said they were arrested based on their appearance.[13][14]
- July 1, 2013 - Canada Day participants at the British Columbia Provincial Legislature Buildings were targets of an alleged plot by Surrey residents John Stewart Nuttall, 38, and Amanda Korody, 29, to plant pressure-cooker bombs as inspired by al-Qaida. Investigation by RCMP and CSIS prevented implementation of the plot.[15]
- October 20, 2014 – On October 20, 2014, two Canadian Forces members were hit by Martin Couture-Rouleau, a recent Muslim convert in what is known as the 2014 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu ramming attack. Warrant officer Patrice Vincent died of his injuries. Couture-Rouleau was eventually gunned down and killed.
- October 22, 2014 – On the morning of October 22, 2014 at 9:52am,[16] Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a 32 year old drug addict and self-convert to Islam, who was known to Canadian authorities, shot and killed Cpl. Nathan Cirillo[16] while the 24 year old stood guard at the War Memorial in Ottawa, Ontario. In the aftermath of the attack, there was much speculation about whether the attack was an act of terrorism related to Canada’s recent joining in the armed coalition against ISIS, or [17] a criminal act of a mentally-deranged loner. Canadians are sharply split between those who say it was an act of terrorism or a result of the shooter's mental health issues arising from the lack of mental health access in the country.[18]
Only because we have a government that is looking out for us.
But those are just facts. Can't let that stand in the way of ideaology .these people managed to avoid moose attacks.
other non-ungulate-related incidents:
Islamist
- December 14, 1999 - Ahmed Ressam, known as the Millenium Bomber, was arrested upon entering the United States by a ferry from Victoria, British Columbia. He was smuggling explosives in his car from Canada as part of a plot to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) on New Year's Eve 1999, as part of the foiled 2000 millennium attack plots.
- 2006 - In the 2006 Ontario terrorism plot, Canadian counter-terrorism forces arrested 18 terrorists (dubbed the "Toronto 18") inspired by al-Qaeda. They were accused of planning to detonate truck bombs, to open fire in a crowded area, and to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower, to take hostages and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders.
- August 2010 - Misbahuddin Ahmed of Ottawa was arrested (later convicted in July 2014) of knowingly facilitating a terrorist activity and participation in the activities of a terrorist group.[8][9]
- 2013 - The head of Canada’s spy service Richard Fadden has told Parliament that the fragmenting of al-Qaeda has made him more “worried” about terrorist attacks in Canada. He warned that Canadians are involved in every al-Qaeda affiliate group and that these groups have mentioned Canada as a possible target.[10][11]
- 2013 - Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser of Montreal and Toronto, respectively, charged as part of an alleged Al Qaeda plot to derail a New York to Toronto train on the Canadian side of the border. Alleged plot was not imminent.[citation needed] Canadian Muslims helped to foil the alleged plot.[12] The suspects said they were arrested based on their appearance.[13][14]
- July 1, 2013 - Canada Day participants at the British Columbia Provincial Legislature Buildings were targets of an alleged plot by Surrey residents John Stewart Nuttall, 38, and Amanda Korody, 29, to plant pressure-cooker bombs as inspired by al-Qaida. Investigation by RCMP and CSIS prevented implementation of the plot.[15]
- October 20, 2014 – On October 20, 2014, two Canadian Forces members were hit by Martin Couture-Rouleau, a recent Muslim convert in what is known as the 2014 Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu ramming attack. Warrant officer Patrice Vincent died of his injuries. Couture-Rouleau was eventually gunned down and killed.
- October 22, 2014 – On the morning of October 22, 2014 at 9:52am,[16] Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a 32 year old drug addict and self-convert to Islam, who was known to Canadian authorities, shot and killed Cpl. Nathan Cirillo[16] while the 24 year old stood guard at the War Memorial in Ottawa, Ontario. In the aftermath of the attack, there was much speculation about whether the attack was an act of terrorism related to Canada’s recent joining in the armed coalition against ISIS, or [17] a criminal act of a mentally-deranged loner. Canadians are sharply split between those who say it was an act of terrorism or a result of the shooter's mental health issues arising from the lack of mental health access in the country.[18]
Are any of these people Canadian or were they killed on Canadian soil?
Plots foiled? If we stopped before, why do we need C-51?
Two guys who had serious mental health and addiction problems killed two people and suddenly we have a serious terrorist threat? I call BS on that. Only Harpo used the incidents as fodder to push through his BS bill.
And Loc and slave are the two biggest ideologues on this forum. Oh, and two of the biggest Harpo fanboys.
Plots foiled? If we stopped before, why do we need C-51?
Two guys who had serious mental health and addiction problems killed two people and suddenly we have a serious terrorist threat? I call BS on that. Only Harpo used the incidents as fodder to push through his BS bill.
And Loc and slave are the two biggest ideologues on this forum. Oh, and two of the biggest Harpo fanboys.
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Kind of hard to call me a Harper fanboy since I didn't vote for him or his party.But he is better than the alternatives presented to us.