A new political sunrise.
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Ron said I have to point concrete references to things like music I might refer to while posting, so...
I am listening to this: http://tunes.digitalock.com/flowerofscotlandcorries.mp3 <-- click to play
It's like fixing the position of zero on a temperature scale. Do you mean Fahrenheit or Celsius?
You mean the kind of happiness to have embraced Europe after the Roman Empire collapsed?
If you're not being paid to say what you're saying, I bet what you're saying is what works for you.
What you're saying is that what works for you to keep you in line is to be clobbered with a bat and thrown in jail if you don't behave, and you think everyone else thinks and is kept in line the same way, which means it confuses you to meet people who think.
http://tunes.digitalock.com/The_Corries_Twa_Corbies.mp3 <-- click to play
I am listening to this: http://tunes.digitalock.com/flowerofscotlandcorries.mp3 <-- click to play
What do you mean. Relative left or absolute left?
It's like fixing the position of zero on a temperature scale. Do you mean Fahrenheit or Celsius?
You mean the kind of political reality where an ancient tribe of Neanderthals overtook some Cro-Magnon?
Oh joy.
You mean the kind of happiness to have embraced Europe after the Roman Empire collapsed?
He's just a f-ckin snark-spirited Albertan. You'd have to have grown up there to know what that means.
Meaning what? A society where people take care of each other and you can't stand that because you know that if everyone knew as much about you as you know about yourself you would never take care of yourself?
Leading back to what? Tyranny? Gee that sounds like a lot of work.
I bet if asked you would not be able to say what you mean in terms of your social vision the difference between "blatantly liberal" versus "steady-eddy".
If you're not being paid to say what you're saying, I bet what you're saying is what works for you.
What you're saying is that what works for you to keep you in line is to be clobbered with a bat and thrown in jail if you don't behave, and you think everyone else thinks and is kept in line the same way, which means it confuses you to meet people who think.
http://tunes.digitalock.com/The_Corries_Twa_Corbies.mp3 <-- click to play
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What change?
One group occupies the middle with the quiet lesser tendencies left or right to appease the base of the party. The Liberals used to occupy that space and now the Conservatives do. Policy hasn't really changed that much other than the trinkets doled out to the parties faithful supporters. Dump money into pet projects and cut the one's they don't like (usually that supported the oppositions base voters) and claim you hold the line on taxes, while cutting services.
There is no change here. It's the same game as it ever was. Of course they call it something new, but then that's been the way of the snake oil salesmen forever.
One group occupies the middle with the quiet lesser tendencies left or right to appease the base of the party. The Liberals used to occupy that space and now the Conservatives do. Policy hasn't really changed that much other than the trinkets doled out to the parties faithful supporters. Dump money into pet projects and cut the one's they don't like (usually that supported the oppositions base voters) and claim you hold the line on taxes, while cutting services.
There is no change here. It's the same game as it ever was. Of course they call it something new, but then that's been the way of the snake oil salesmen forever.
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It seems to me that the right is more tolerant and accepting of others.
lefties don't want free markets to compete with their socialist agenda and would most likely want to make them ilegal someday.
yet righties have no problems with hutterite collonies, professional associations, group buying schemes, etc.
Fascism has a lengthy and often confusing definition. however, imo, Canada is more fascist when we have the Liberals in power because they like to get together with big business and work out protectionist schemes and protectionist policy. The CRTC is often used to protect large company interests like Shaw and Bell, and CBC.
Yet, with the Conservative, they lowered corporate taxes, and considering any small business that is able to incorporate for $800 so they can better manage their finances - you know - the typical small business with only a handful of employees. Yep, the Conservates are definitely less fascist than the Liberals.
you are correct that it probably never will be privatized, however, I have a buddy that does civilian work on the electronics in Candian ships - onsite work. I have also noted that the sonar systems from the turrets are shipped to a private company to be repaired, the electronics for the CF18s are repaired at a private facility as well.
well, I guess we will see some of that because the new government will be turning back the clock on some failed Liberal legislation related to the gun registry. Personally, I don't think voters care much about the gun registry as indicated by the lack of outrage when the registry was put in, and it will be indicated by the lack of outrage when the registry is removed.
Harper grew up in Toronto so how does he know what a f-ckin snark-spirited Albertan would be thinking?
he lived in Lethbride Alberta for a while. Not exactly the kind of place that is known for the stereotypical snark spirited albertan.
I applaud Mr Harpers choice of David Johnston as GG it is a return to a knowledgable protaganist for poltical & constitutional matters. I hope we've seen the experiment of "window dressing" GG's finished and a retirn of something more substantial.
The Speaker it was a foregone conclusion a Conservative would hold the post and its good to see the Deputy Speaker take over offerring some continuity to the post. What was somewhat suprising was to see Denise Savoie of the NDP as Scheer's final competitor and that it took 6 rounds to get him to the seat.
The Auditor General we'll just have wait and see whether Harper will put a "yes man" in the position or someone as independant as Fraser. If history is any past guide the new AG will get hamstrung much the same way as Kevin Page
Redistribution, increasing represenation in Ontario, BC & Alberta is a good thing, however there should be a corresponding reduction represntation in slower growing & over represented provinces Manitoba should loose 2 , Saskatchewan 4, Nova Scotia 1, New Brunswick 2, PEI 2 and NFLD 2 to better balance the reality of the country. Quebec of course stays at 74 or 75.
The Supreme Court must be above politics, it can only interrupt the law as it is enacted any complaint about "activist judges" is nosensical, if Parliament enacts laws with holes big enough to drive trucks through blame the Legislators not the judges. The constant bug-a-boo about the Charter is a sham the Charter is a "living" thing and all nuances must be ruled on.
The Federal vote subsidy it will be interesting come 2014 when the Conservatives being to feel the loss of the subsidy while readying themselves for the next election and the cost of the attack ads sure to come.
I'll ignore commenting on the Senate except to say the Senate is a Constitutional problem that cannot be resolved alone by the Commons.
Trex your OP is all about the structural workings of goverence & that is fairly cut and dried.
It will be interesting on the legislative & practical side to how the Conservatives perform.
The Speaker it was a foregone conclusion a Conservative would hold the post and its good to see the Deputy Speaker take over offerring some continuity to the post. What was somewhat suprising was to see Denise Savoie of the NDP as Scheer's final competitor and that it took 6 rounds to get him to the seat.
The Auditor General we'll just have wait and see whether Harper will put a "yes man" in the position or someone as independant as Fraser. If history is any past guide the new AG will get hamstrung much the same way as Kevin Page
Redistribution, increasing represenation in Ontario, BC & Alberta is a good thing, however there should be a corresponding reduction represntation in slower growing & over represented provinces Manitoba should loose 2 , Saskatchewan 4, Nova Scotia 1, New Brunswick 2, PEI 2 and NFLD 2 to better balance the reality of the country. Quebec of course stays at 74 or 75.
The Supreme Court must be above politics, it can only interrupt the law as it is enacted any complaint about "activist judges" is nosensical, if Parliament enacts laws with holes big enough to drive trucks through blame the Legislators not the judges. The constant bug-a-boo about the Charter is a sham the Charter is a "living" thing and all nuances must be ruled on.
The Federal vote subsidy it will be interesting come 2014 when the Conservatives being to feel the loss of the subsidy while readying themselves for the next election and the cost of the attack ads sure to come.
I'll ignore commenting on the Senate except to say the Senate is a Constitutional problem that cannot be resolved alone by the Commons.
Trex your OP is all about the structural workings of goverence & that is fairly cut and dried.
It will be interesting on the legislative & practical side to how the Conservatives perform.
You are probably right about that. And that attitude will last until some nutcase armed with a long gun lays waste to another bunch of innocents. At that point there will be demands to add long guns to the registry once again.
A new political sunrise? I'd have said it was a sunset, the beginning of a dark time. I've just been reading about the issues around the Wheat Board and what the Cons are up to on that file. You think you've seen contempt of Parliament and the democratic process, and plain old ignorance of history, from these guys before? Just wait...
socialist hardline monopolies like the CWB don't fit into a global economy. I just don't see how you guys can support it, unless you refuse to give it more than a few minutes thought while suggesting that canadian farmers are somehow inferior to the rest of the world.
isn't the general mantra "well if we all stand together, we can get a better overal price than we can in a free market"?
geez, guys, this isn't 1943 anymore. competition and growth is what keeps an industry strong and viable. if you cap the farmer's income potential or - heaven forbid - subsidize them, you just create an industry that exists further and further outside of reality.
Furthermore, the CWB's own surveys indicate that there is only about a 30% support for them by farmers.
You speak of democracy. well the farmers need their democracatic say in their businesses.
Let them vote for the CWB to become an optional program.......yes, this doesn't have to be an all or nothing debate. A CWB that operates in a free market can still exist, and if it is truly creating value for farmers, we will find a high percentage opting in.
The problem with allowing farmers to opt out of the Canadian Wheat Board is that it really makes the organization irrelevant. If farmers can jump from the organization any time they please in order to take advantage of higher demand for their product then there is really is no logical reason for any farmer to remain a member. The problem with that is that the desire to operate outside the CWB's monopoly only occurs when world demand for grain is high. When demand drops members are quite happy to be a part of the CWB which really is a case of wanting to eat your cake and have it too.
It is interesting to note that the Americans have long criticized the CWB for giving Canada an unfair advantage when global demand for grain is low. In addition, leaving the CWB would place Canadian grain farmers at the mercy of giant international agricultural oligopolies which could care less about the interests of the Canadian farmer.
Finally, grain production is already heavily subsidized in other nations. The EU has huge agricultural subsidies on almost all products, and the USA and Japan regularly shovel billions into the pockets of farmers. Unless the rest of the world is prepared to play by the same free market rules opponents of the CWB advocate Canadian farmers might find themselves in a real dog eat dog market with nothing to fall back on if world grain prices decline.
He probably got beat up by the native kids consistantly. It explains a lot.
BTW...when sunrise is used in a sentence with political, it means communist.
You're right the New Dawn of socialism is here and now.
Check out the guy on the "right".
I think we need to invade a peaceful nation like France before it kicks in WTF is going on.
You are so right!!!! Canadians aren't that stupid........and that is why finally they voted for a majority Conservative government.
What on Earth is so wrong with allowing a Farmer who's blood sweat and tears are put into growing and reaping his crops and then allowing him to decide if he should be a part of the CWB or sell HIS OWN crops on the FREE market at HIS OWN CHOICE????
And why oh why is that only CERTAIN provinces have to adhere to this farsical communist nonsense????
Blood? Sweat? Tears?
Yeah it can be a bitch to program the GPS EZSteer so I can snooze while seeding.
the CWB creates a no competition setting for it's members but not farmers outside of it's grasp. Currently it's grasp is manditory for some of the provinces, not all.
To say that it absolutely won't work if you shrink or grow its grasp - and isn't that what you are trying to say? - is totally inacurate, imo.
The killing of the CWB is going to kill any producer under a section of land which will mean he'll probably sell out or lease to a larger producer who can afford the shipping costs and market their product easier because of volume.
Answer this. How much denser is oil seed compared to wheat? Will I need one truck to ship a field of canola or two or three like wheat or barley?