A challenge to our dear Christian friends.
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Are those questions you really asked God?
You do know that Israel is in exile don't you? Protection isn't available when you are made desolate from God. Shouldn't you be asking the 'West' why they refused to allow those trains to travel in their direction even thought the offer was made?
Who do you think gets put onto trains after what was basically a coup by Hitler. It's more than common to paint a picture of families that are no more than 'bakers' and 'tailers', reality puts it as who could be a threat to the 'new state'. The ones who were the string pullers for the old regime.
If America went into a revolt, who would be rounded up? People from the ghettos or the current power-brokers. That would include all the lobbiests, many of who happen to be Jewish these days, the media bosses, many of which happen to be Jewish these days, the high-rollers in the financial sector, many of which happen to be Jewish these days. You don't take just the bread-winners, you take the whole family. If those train-loads of people were offered to Canada, should we accept them knowing full well as soon as they are off the trains they will go right back doing what they were doing before being rounded up.
The Jews still haven't learned that when put into exile it is best to keep a low-profile, then you don't need God's protection as much as when you start (interfering is the best word because they do it behind the scenes) in the affairs of another Nation (exile means without a Nation) Who wants a people (without a God) that got kicked out of their own country running the affairs of any country?
Now were Jews the only ones rounded up.
You do know that Israel is in exile don't you? Protection isn't available when you are made desolate from God. Shouldn't you be asking the 'West' why they refused to allow those trains to travel in their direction even thought the offer was made?
Who do you think gets put onto trains after what was basically a coup by Hitler. It's more than common to paint a picture of families that are no more than 'bakers' and 'tailers', reality puts it as who could be a threat to the 'new state'. The ones who were the string pullers for the old regime.
If America went into a revolt, who would be rounded up? People from the ghettos or the current power-brokers. That would include all the lobbiests, many of who happen to be Jewish these days, the media bosses, many of which happen to be Jewish these days, the high-rollers in the financial sector, many of which happen to be Jewish these days. You don't take just the bread-winners, you take the whole family. If those train-loads of people were offered to Canada, should we accept them knowing full well as soon as they are off the trains they will go right back doing what they were doing before being rounded up.
The Jews still haven't learned that when put into exile it is best to keep a low-profile, then you don't need God's protection as much as when you start (interfering is the best word because they do it behind the scenes) in the affairs of another Nation (exile means without a Nation) Who wants a people (without a God) that got kicked out of their own country running the affairs of any country?
Now were Jews the only ones rounded up.
How wrong can you be........
The Jews made up 60% of those "rounded up" for slaughter..........Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, the physically handicapped, the mentally handicapped, Russian POWs, the politically unreliable, and on and on, ALL TOGETHER, made up the other 40%
Jewish communities have always had a tendency to put an emphasis on education and achievement (those BASTARDS!) In 1893, less than 1% of Germans were Jewish, but 31% of the richest men were Jews, and by the 1930s, one in 9 German doctors was a Jew, and one in 6 lawyers. (The War of the World......by Niall Ferguson, pp31-35)
So anti-Semitism was based largely on the jealousy of under-achievers......add to that the ancient view of Jews as "Christ killers" (conveniently forgetting the Romans, and the fact Christ was a Jew), the old Jewish trade of money-lending (who is more hated than bankers?), throw in the blood libel and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, add migration of Jews fleeing the pogroms of eastern Europe............stir in increasing mixing of cultures and inter-marriage......and you have a recipe for genocide.
Make no mistake about it.....it was an attempt to eliminate Jews from first Europe, then the world. It was GENOCIDE, not political murder.
Colpy
It was indeed genocide, but genocide from a perspective of prejudice and hatred that one might reasonably think would be the lesson learned. It's striking that this terrible lessons hasn't been learned and we continue to practice it in various forms..including the Israeli actions against Palestine. One might think that the Jewish people would have greater understanding of what hatred and being displaced from your home would mean..but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Will the world ever hear enough of this driving guilt into the hearts and minds of anyone opposing the actions of many many Israelis as though enough acknowledgement hasn't been made and the reason why no one can criticize the actions of but another small nation among many?
Israel isn't anything special, or at least any more special to the world than are the sentiments of any nationalist extremeist. When can the actions of the Israeli government finally be assessed without the overarching parry of "Your criticisms of Israel simply demonstrate your anti-Semitism and rank you among the monsters who practiced genocide during the Second World War....
Isn't it long past the time when excuses and emotional blackmail should form the basis for diverting attention from the wrong-doing of Israel?
It was indeed genocide, but genocide from a perspective of prejudice and hatred that one might reasonably think would be the lesson learned. It's striking that this terrible lessons hasn't been learned and we continue to practice it in various forms..including the Israeli actions against Palestine. One might think that the Jewish people would have greater understanding of what hatred and being displaced from your home would mean..but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Will the world ever hear enough of this driving guilt into the hearts and minds of anyone opposing the actions of many many Israelis as though enough acknowledgement hasn't been made and the reason why no one can criticize the actions of but another small nation among many?
Israel isn't anything special, or at least any more special to the world than are the sentiments of any nationalist extremeist. When can the actions of the Israeli government finally be assessed without the overarching parry of "Your criticisms of Israel simply demonstrate your anti-Semitism and rank you among the monsters who practiced genocide during the Second World War....
Isn't it long past the time when excuses and emotional blackmail should form the basis for diverting attention from the wrong-doing of Israel?
Why did the 'west' refuse to take them in?
Are you saying not one single Jew was involved in anything underhanded or illegal?
If bankers and newspapers editors of lobbiests (yes even in those times) were being rounded up, so what. If brothels and nightclub owners were being rounded up, so what. (actually the brothels would probably just go through a management change).
The US has followed the same example in any proxy war they caused. Get a few in power with guns and then kill all the 'rebels' of anybody in a station of influence and put your own person in there.
Nobody relates any disappearances in South America as being the same as being put onto trains.
The trains didn't stop all American contact with Germany, had the ones charged with treason been dealth with the same manner, all his relatives would have gone to jail with him. Think that would have changed anything over the last 50 years. Your relatives (the ones that know the most about you) would stop you from doing things that would fuk up their life.
When the Jews lost the temple and the city, they should have conceded. The temple was lost when they didn't recognize that God was with them (events after the cross). They lost the city because they were causing revolts. When you pull somebody over a national boundary their attitude comes with them.
Since they haven't yet been gathered again they will do the same thing if they are in control of a Nation. If God had been behind their gathering together He would be protecting them, they wouldn't need any guns or walls.
Are you saying not one single Jew was involved in anything underhanded or illegal?
If bankers and newspapers editors of lobbiests (yes even in those times) were being rounded up, so what. If brothels and nightclub owners were being rounded up, so what. (actually the brothels would probably just go through a management change).
The US has followed the same example in any proxy war they caused. Get a few in power with guns and then kill all the 'rebels' of anybody in a station of influence and put your own person in there.
Nobody relates any disappearances in South America as being the same as being put onto trains.
The trains didn't stop all American contact with Germany, had the ones charged with treason been dealth with the same manner, all his relatives would have gone to jail with him. Think that would have changed anything over the last 50 years. Your relatives (the ones that know the most about you) would stop you from doing things that would fuk up their life.
When the Jews lost the temple and the city, they should have conceded. The temple was lost when they didn't recognize that God was with them (events after the cross). They lost the city because they were causing revolts. When you pull somebody over a national boundary their attitude comes with them.
Since they haven't yet been gathered again they will do the same thing if they are in control of a Nation. If God had been behind their gathering together He would be protecting them, they wouldn't need any guns or walls.
My dear friends, the very one's we persecuted, Jews; meaning mankind as a whole, are the very ones responsible for our salvation!
Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
We speak when we don't understand the truth, thereby making fools of ourselves.
Speak no more evil of the plight of the Jews unless you intend to be their friend for the suffering they have to endure on your behalf!
Peace>>>AJ
Act 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
We speak when we don't understand the truth, thereby making fools of ourselves.
Speak no more evil of the plight of the Jews unless you intend to be their friend for the suffering they have to endure on your behalf!
Peace>>>AJ
So does the 6M mean just Jews and there were 4M more that aren't remembered? Political unreliable, would that be one that swore an oath to (fellow Jews) over any oath taken for/to a Nation. That is headed for control in the end. Does any of those 'professions and qualities' also apply to Jews?
Jews are into commerce, plain and simple. Their motto is to never pay retail for anything.
Isn't that about the same time they had control of just about all the brothels? I can find you a link. Was that the seed money, did they still have control of the brothels in 1930's?
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/10whsla.htm
At the end of the 19th and beginning of the twentieth century, Jews were deeply involved in what was popularly called "white slavery": international prostitution rings. "White slavery," notes scholar Albert Lindemann, "was a concern of Jewish leaders throughout the world, who recognized it as a special problem." [LINDEMANN, p. 33] [Jews have also dominated the pornography and commercial sexploitation business, a trend which continues to this day -- see Mass Media section]
"Between 1880 and 1939," notes scholar Edward Bristow, "the Jews played a conspicuous role in 'white slavery,' as the commercial prostitution of that era was dramatically called. Not only was this Jewish participation conspicuous, it was historically unprecedented, geographically widespread, and fraught with collective political dangers." [BRISTOW, p. 1] "Jewish trafficking," says Bristow, "was anchored in brothel keeping, women freelanced or kept houses while their husbands procured ... Jewish traffickers also supplied Gentile-run houses." [BRISTOW, p. 56-57]
It wasn't a Roman plot to kill Jesus. The Roman's didn't plot 70AD, they just went out and did it.
I doubt the Jews referred to themselves as Germans, and if they controlled alot of the wealth, that wealth should have been going to natural Germans, I assume they could also run a brothel as well as a Jew could. Jewish wealth stay with just them.
It was in Poland where all the teachers were killed, and probably all the lawyers. Using your ratio there were non-jewish people also killed, that makes it political in nature.
You must have some Jewish roots. One post and it's pull out the 'attack the messenger card'. LOL
So why did the west refuse those people, the Jews really should toss them some kind of 'bill' for being so unkind to them.
MHz
Not all Jews who say they are Jews are Jews inwardly!
Does that tell you anything?
Circumcision is of the heart and not of the physical.
Therefore to lump all as one is not a correct measure of what a true Jew is.
Peace>>>AJ
Not all Jews who say they are Jews are Jews inwardly!
Does that tell you anything?
Circumcision is of the heart and not of the physical.
Therefore to lump all as one is not a correct measure of what a true Jew is.
Peace>>>AJ
Well I'm pretty sure the one responsible for salvation had things already moving along in that direction before anybody was qualified to be called a Jew.
Lets see, the Jews are in exile and the Gentiles have yet to be gathered, I wonder how things are going to go?
Ro:3:29:
Is he the God of the Jews only?
is he not also of the Gentiles?
Yes,
of the Gentiles also:
This be Christ believing Jews and Gentiles, there are some in both groups. Is a non-Christian Jew more important than a non-Christian Gentile?
Ro:9:24:
Even us, whom he hath called,
not of the Jews only,
but also of the Gentiles?
The Jews were sent to the Nations to be a light to who Christ is. That was their whole mission.
Then maybe you can answer why the 'West" refused to allow those trains to leave Germany, the offer was made and turned down.
The same can be said for Christians. You had Jews that were spreading the Gospel to the Nations, you also had Jews that followed them from town to town persecuting them.
The Jews are under the very same laws as Christians. Do no harm.
Pretty sure? I mean that point is none arguable.
The Gentiles had their part in participation of the Roman Empire.
The Jewish High priest were the only ones on earth authorized to offer up sacrifices to the God of Moses, thereby, Jesus giving them notice that only through Him could they reach their Father was an all out statement of blasphemy and was subject to death.
Pre- planned? Absolutely!
Therefore, as Judas was instrumental in preparing the way for Jesus to be crucified, Judas, the High Priests and all the Gentiles are given life, as only God can in Jesus.
So, the sufferings of the Jew are their portion in the lot.
Isa 61:7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.
Both Jesus and the Jewish nation, receive the double portion, and the Gentiles as Barabbas, set free.
But “everlasting Joy” shall be unto them………….but for the moment?
Let us therefore pray for peace of Jerusalem.
Peace>>>AJ
Why would an ex catholic be bitter, I fall into that catagorie, and bitter is the last
emotion I feel, relieved, free, positive, happy, satisfied, and open minded. That
fits much better, and I wish all of the catholics in this world a happy life.
(or, maybe some of them grew up in a catholic orphanage, that could cause
much bitterness for life)