A challenge to our dear Christian friends.

mrgrumpy

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no, I believe you should treat all people equal, believer and unbeliever, we are all the children of God and so we should treat each other with respect, i do not believe people should be killed in the name of God unless they represent a direct threat to Christians

That's very generous of you and we do so apprecaite the chance to live, unless of course we are a threat to Christians, but it seems you are being much too generous in light of what the Book of Myths prescribes for unbelievers:

McCauley above quoting Revealtions 21, "The fearful, unbelieving...shall have their part in the lake which burneth fire and brimstone (hell)".

Are you McCauly one of those examples of a Christian being better than the God you worship?
 

look3467

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That's very generous of you and we do so apprecaite the chance to live, unless of course we are a threat to Christians, but it seems you are being much too generous in light of what the Book of Myths prescribes for unbelievers:

McCauley above quoting Revelations 21, "The fearful, unbelieving...shall have their part in the lake which burneth fire and brimstone (hell)".

Are you McCauly one of those examples of a Christian being better than the God you worship?

A threat to anybody is defensible period!

As for the lake of fire, well literally seen, it is as described, but spiritually seen, it is a fire that is never quenched.

What does that mean?

All completed vessels the potter makes are done in the furnace.

The furnace of God is as like a lake of fire where all sin is burned off and the vessel is made clean and pure: fit for the glory of God.

God is an all consuming fire, as fire that burns at the heart, that convicts of sin, that leads to repentance from sin, a fire which lives from generation to generation, and dies not.

It is the the conscience of all that is good, the part of the tree that is good and not evil.

The part that burns in believers and unbelievers alike, without distinction.

A threat to Christians is not a proper phrase, because it gives to indicate that Christians are the only good folk.

But rather, it should read, "a threat to life" giving to indicate without distinction.

Christianity teaches forgiveness, to love our enemies, yet, a threat to life maybe still be defensible, but not using religion as an excuse.

Peace>>>AJ
 

Dexter Sinister

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...no one goes around saying that athiests are murderers
Sure they do. You can find posts in this very message board where atheists are blamed for the excesses of communism and Nazism and tin pot dictators like Pol Pot, which is putting the cart before the horse. Nobody murders in the cause of atheism, or if they do I've never heard of it, but history is full of examples of people murdering in the cause of religion.
 

earth_as_one

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Only one commandment exists:

Thou shalt not steal.

All the others are variations.

I'm agnostic. But I believe in religion.

Religion exists. I can prove that. We'd have far fewer problems if people followed their religions more.. um.. religiously.
 

MHz

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If a war is about territory, that has nothing to do with religion. If it has 'riches' involved, it has nothing to do with religion. How many wars involved these elements right off the bat? Integration into the lifestyle would have been the introduction of religion. Rome didn't care about what religion the people (they conquered) practiced, as long as there were no riots and everybody paid their taxes. When the army started losing the RCC was there to 'keep the empire running', making a deal with those who had the swords that they would not interfer with the way things were done by the 'state', and they would preach blind obedience to them.
 

MHz

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Cheap-ass, that only a trailer. If the author was really sincere in educating people it would be free. Do you own any shares in the company?


The 'God' movie is the only movie that recommends you know the ending before you see what paths that can be taken that get you there. That won't stop your stomach from dropping, but the back of your mind will reassure you it isn't a permanent condition.
 

MHz

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Well it wasn't a link to the promised movie, liar. It was a link to a page of text, with a link to a preview.

The only nails that makes me want to bite are yours. Hard enough that you can't type for a few days.

Other than not being able to get a real job why do you think he's in politics, along with the rest of the 'voted in'.
 

MHz

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Oh, do you ever post on GLP?

Today, 10:14 AM

Quoting mrgrumpy "My point was that Jesus is not recorded as saying much of anything about human sexuality or expressions of it, those are later accretions by Paul and others who never met him. There's very little information in Scripture about Jesus' personal life before he became an itinerant preacher. "

I guess it depends on which myths/fables get into publication, and which do not.

http://jeromekahn123.tripod.com/newtestament/id5.html
Why did your link take sooo long to get to the point?

It says they weren't naked, they wore linen clothes. It is your imagination, and the authors, that have the cloths coming off.

Teaching is turned into a 'physical act', the way Jesus taught was to tell parables. Teaching would be like what Luke 19 covers.

When it is said that 'he wants to be with Him' it means just the same as this verse does, to travel along with the group that was with Jesus.
Lu:18:43:
And immediately he received his sight,
and followed him,
glorifying God:
and all the people,
when they saw it,
gave praise unto God.

Is the author gay? It seems he is very determined to twist the words to suit his conclusion.

Does this mean (using text not found in the 'official book) I can now start using Enoch to support a version of the end-times. It might have a lot of people saying "Oh, fuk." and then the subject would be put to rest.
 

mrgrumpy

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"Is the author gay? It seems he is very determined to twist the words to suit his conclusion."

Isn't that the specialty of religionists who can make the Book of Myths say anything they want?

"Men create Gods after their own image, not only with regard to their form, but with regard to their mode of life."

Aristotle
 

mrgrumpy

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Does yor God answer prayers?

Let's not quibble over your pleadings to the Almighty about your soon-to-be-toast Dodge transmission or your slightly less than ecstatic love life.

Let's leave aside the childish yearnings that that the cute girl in English class will notice you, or Daddy will cough up an allowance increase...

Or even that poor, sick, alcoholic 79 year old auntie might live long enough to include your wretched self in her meagre Will.

Let's ask how the Almighty answered the prayers of MILLIONS of sons and daughters of the first children of Abraham when they were being loaded on rail cars for the concentration camps in Germany and Poland and Czechoslovakia.

Did he prevent their slaughter? Ease their torment? Save even children from torture and extermination? Where was their 'protector and solace' when they needed him most?

He was were he is today - silent, invisble and powerless. And completely deaf to the prayers of his children.

Non-existent.
 

gerryh

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For someone that doesn't believe in "God", you sure ask a hell of alot of questions about why he did or didn't do something.