9/11: Debunking The Myths

Johnny Utah

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aeon said:
Johnny Utah said:
aeon said:
I also personnaly called 3 different demolition crew, and they all agree, that Both WTC and WTC 7 could only be brought down with explosives.

It takes months of planning and cutting key structural points, planting explosives to bring a building down..

No way in hell that could have been done with WTC 1&2, WTC7 with people still working in the buildings..

National Geopraphic runs a series on a Demolition Family based in the United States who's business is Demolition and you will see you're theory is dead wrong..

As for the 3 Demolition crews you supposedly called, I doubt they said it could be done just like that without explaining what it takes to bring a building down as I pointed out. If they didn't then they were just F-ing with you as you're clearly not the first crackpot to call them with stupid questions like that or they don't know what the hell their talking about in the first place..


We know for a fact, that building 7 was brought down with explosive, the leaseholder of building 7 admitted it on PBS documentary called ""america rebuild"' and the way it fell, withouth being touch by a plane,at a free fall speed, support what the leaseholder says.
Silverstein is being misquoted by people like you.

Silverstein's spokesperson, McQuillan, later attempted to clarify:

In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.


The ultimate decision to pull all attempts to save WTC7 came from the Fire Chief. The Fire Chief just asked Silverstein what he would like the FDNY to do and he said just pull it, as in pull all atempts trying to save WTC7 because he didn't think it was worth risking more lives after the massive amount of lives already lost that day. Pull it was only Silverstein's opinion it wasn't an order as he wasn't the Fire Chief who could make that call..

You're problem with Silverstein is he's Jewish because you're Anti-Semitic/Anti-Israeli. You're also part of that percentage who believe's 9/11 was an Israeli Mossad Operation. Don't worry though as you have plenty of company out there who believes the same BS you do..
 

aeon

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Johnny Utah said:
Silverstein is being misquoted by people like you.

Silverstein's spokesperson, McQuillan, later attempted to clarify:

In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building.


The ultimate decision to pull all attempts to save WTC7 came from the Fire Chief. The Fire Chief just asked Silverstein what he would like the FDNY to do and he said just pull it, as in pull all atempts trying to save WTC7 because he didn't think it was worth risking more lives after the massive amount of lives already lost that day. Pull it was only Silverstein's opinion it wasn't an order as he wasn't the Fire Chief who could make that call..

You're problem with Silverstein is he's Jewish because you're Anti-Semitic/Anti-Israeli. You're also part of that percentage who believe's 9/11 was an Israeli Mossad Operation. Don't worry though as you have plenty of company out there who believes the same BS you do..



Here is the proof that you are wrong again, and again and again and again, what i like about you is your uniformity in stupidity, you don t even think before posting



Pull is a term use in demolition, and here again the proof of it.

http://tinyurl.com/c3f9f




toro said:
You argued that the WTC was designed to not implode the way it did.

So what?

I use the Titanic as an analogy. The Titanic was designed to "not sink." Yet it did.

Humans are fallible. (And yes Mike, even engineers! ) The fact that people design something to make it unbreakable does not make it so.



Nope i said it was designed to withstand multiple jet liner impact, and i said that demolition crew people told me, the only way to explain how the tower fell, is they had explosives, otherwise we would have seen something chaotic.
 

Jay

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Take it to frick'n court!

Do it...get Sheen and all the other wackos who believe this (and you will need their money to pay for this) and bring justice to us all.

When you win the court battles I will apologies for not believing what apparently is so obvious to you.
 

EagleSmack

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Substance said:
Well then sorry to make a harsh reply again but well what can you do in such a cruel world run by greedy people such as Bush. Well someone didn't want to answer flight 77 question then I will......and besides it isn't fact just because you type it so why are you afraid of posting something?

Well then Flight 77? Was that the plane that "hit" the Pentagon? Ok then well lets see......
Ok then Flight 77 flew as normal and their family is safe since think of this; If there was a dummy plane the impact at the Pentagon would have been much bigger but seeing as how the impact hole is small and long it was cruise missle and detonation. The wall of the Pentagon would have been wide with windows shattered. Those identified corpses would have been all burned to...gas?

Flight 73 (The one that crashed into the field) was forced to fly to Cleveland and off load people there. What happened to the people is mine and your guess but seeing as how theres been proof that Flight 73 reached Cleveland really bothered people who actually did their research.

Twin Towers was hit by a dummy plane with most of the jet fuel burning out of the building so its nearly impossible that it could burn the supports. Even the firefighters claim they got rid of every single small fire and left the building. Firefighters also heard and saw the explosions going off. Well also if it did get burnt don't you think it would of swayed to one side while collapsing?

As much as you want believe everything is done by the terrorist only makes you blind from facts since you only side with one side. Ah well guess we're going back to the "Lead us oh wise one"

edit: That last 2 sentences could be used to fire back at me, I just stabbed myself -.- Ah well I beleived 9/11 when it happened but later learned that it was a planned assault.

Well at least you answered and your theory is as logical as any other conspiracy theory.

So lets sum this up... the people from Flight 77 are all alive and are living happily with their families.

And the people from Flight 93 (not 73 as you stated, typo I assume :roll: ) all landed at Cleveland and dissapeared. Yes that makes sense.

By the way... what crashed into Shankvilles PA then? Something big did... and there were plenty of bodies.
 

Johnny Utah

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aeon said:
Here is the proof that you are wrong again, and again and again and again, what i like about you is your uniformity in stupidity, you don t even think before posting

Pull is a term use in demolition, and here again the proof of it.

http://tinyurl.com/c3f9f
September 11, 2001

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aRjqtLyNZo4&search=September 11

No shit what Pull means in Demolition, but you're to blind to see Silverstein said Pull as in pull all attempts to save WTC 7 because he didn't think it was worth risking more lives to save that day. Again you're problem with Larry Silverstein is he's Jewish and you're Anti-Semitic..

The reason the Towers came down is because the Fire protection that protects the Steel Supports was blown off with the impact of the planes, once that happen they were left exposed to the fire at it's high temperature..

The way they fell was due to how they were struck, as for this so called Demolition Crew if they told you that then they are compolete Retards who shouldn't be trusted with a firecrackers let alone explosives. Keep ranting all you like about you're dumbass Conspiracy Theories, in the end Get a Bloody Clue! :roll:

By the way nice Website link there "The Webfairy.com" The Website's Title really suits you're theories Pnwed!
:lol:
 

aeon

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Johnny Utah said:
aeon said:
Here is the proof that you are wrong again, and again and again and again, what i like about you is your uniformity in stupidity, you don t even think before posting

Pull is a term use in demolition, and here again the proof of it.

http://tinyurl.com/c3f9f
September 11, 2001

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aRjqtLyNZo4&search=September 11

No shit what Pull means in Demolition, but you're to blind to see Silverstein said Pull as in pull all attempts to save WTC 7 because he didn't think it was worth risking more lives to save that day. Again you're problem with Larry Silverstein is he's Jewish and you're Anti-Semitic..

The reason the Towers came down is because the Fire protection that protects the Steel Supports was blown off with the impact of the planes, once that happen they were left exposed to the fire at it's high temperature..

The way they fell was due to how they were struck, as for this so called Demolition Crew if they told you that then they are compolete Retards who shouldn't be trusted with a firecrackers let alone explosives. Keep ranting all you like about you're dumbass Conspiracy Theories, in the end Get a Bloody Clue! :roll:

By the way nice Website link there "The Webfairy.com" The Website's Title really suits you're theories Pnwed!
:lol:


First , i didnt even know he was jews, and secondly my girlfriend is a jew, and she is the one who educated me on what is happening in israel, so your anti-semite retarded comment, worth nothing.

Thirdly, pull is a term used for demollition, and sylverstein , said pull it,"" it"" was a reference to building 7, and in this it says http://tinyurl.com/c3f9f, they say "" we are getting ready to pull building 6"".

Building 7 wasnt touch by any plane, and the way building 7 fell, support what sylverstein just said.

You can blah blah blah all you want, it wont change the fact that building 7 was demolish by controlled demolition.
 

Johnny Utah

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aeon said:
Johnny Utah said:
aeon said:
Here is the proof that you are wrong again, and again and again and again, what i like about you is your uniformity in stupidity, you don t even think before posting

Pull is a term use in demolition, and here again the proof of it.

http://tinyurl.com/c3f9f
September 11, 2001

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aRjqtLyNZo4&search=September 11

No shit what Pull means in Demolition, but you're to blind to see Silverstein said Pull as in pull all attempts to save WTC 7 because he didn't think it was worth risking more lives to save that day. Again you're problem with Larry Silverstein is he's Jewish and you're Anti-Semitic..

The reason the Towers came down is because the Fire protection that protects the Steel Supports was blown off with the impact of the planes, once that happen they were left exposed to the fire at it's high temperature..

The way they fell was due to how they were struck, as for this so called Demolition Crew if they told you that then they are compolete Retards who shouldn't be trusted with a firecrackers let alone explosives. Keep ranting all you like about you're dumbass Conspiracy Theories, in the end Get a Bloody Clue! :roll:

By the way nice Website link there "The Webfairy.com" The Website's Title really suits you're theories Pnwed!
:lol:


First , i didnt even know he was jews, and secondly my girlfriend is a jew, and she is the one who educated me on what is happening in israel, so your anti-semite retarded comment, worth nothing.

Thirdly, pull is a term used for demollition, and sylverstein , said pull it,"" it"" was a reference to building 7, and in this it says http://tinyurl.com/c3f9f, they say "" we are getting ready to pull building 6"".

Building 7 wasnt touch by any plane, and the way building 7 fell, support what sylverstein just said.

You can blah blah blah all you want, it wont change the fact that building 7 was demolish by controlled demolition.

You need serious Help!

Maybe he can help you, look into it..
 

Jay

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He's back to the "my girlfriend is Jewish" argument....
 

aeon

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Jay said:
He's back to the "my girlfriend is Jewish" argument....

so you have a problem with that?

And you guys are back with your anti-something argument, does that mean, you guys are anti-muslim?? cause everytime you guys talk, it is always about middle east and how bad those peoples are.
 

fuflans

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aeon, leaving all of this stuff about your girlfriend for a moment, what do you think really happened to Flight 77 if it didn't actually fly into the Pentagon?
 

Jay

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I'm anti- flying planes into buildings and causing shit like that...anti-terrorist and anti dictatorship etc. I'm anti - anti-west and I'm anti- people calling America the great Satan....I'm anti-people who think Israel is responsible for the plight of the Palestinians and the rest of the Arabs....I could go on and on but I think that is sufficient for now.

I have a nice new friend BTW who is Muslimish (Arab) and left CanCon because of people like you. :lol:
 

Johnny Utah

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Jay said:
I'm anti- flying planes into buildings and causing shit like that...anti-terrorist and anti dictatorship etc. I'm anti - anti-west and I'm anti- people calling America the great Satan....I'm anti-people who think Israel is responsible for the plight of the Palestinians and the rest of the Arabs....I could go on and on but I think that is sufficient for now.

I have a nice new friend BTW who is Muslimish (Arab) and left CanCon because of people like you. :lol:
I'm also Anti- everything Jay is..

I grew up with Lebanese Friends, I care about the Afghani and Iraqi people, I want them to have freedom as Americans and Canadians do. I don't see peaceful Arabs and Muslims in the same light as those who are Terrorists..

I too could go on but I've made my point..
:wink:
 

aeon

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fuflans said:
aeon, leaving all of this stuff about your girlfriend for a moment, what do you think really happened to Flight 77 if it didn't actually fly into the Pentagon?


Good question, seriously i really don t know what crash into the pentagone, us officials realeased something we see almost nothing, they have 84 others tapes, that surely show what crashed into the pentagone, but apperently we will not see them for a while. why? they have the chance to prove conspiracy theorist wrong with releasing video, but they choose not to , why?

I presume that a smaller plane crashed into it, along with a missile from what the damage i've seen.
 

Toro

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aeon said:
Nope i said it was designed to withstand multiple jet liner impact, and i said that demolition crew people told me, the only way to explain how the tower fell, is they had explosives, otherwise we would have seen something chaotic.

You are totally missing the point!

The fact that it was designed that way does mean, in actuallity, it will play out that way.

Its not a difficult concept to figure out.
 

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I have to admit, the pentigon hit seems strange as the plane seemed to dematerialise.

then again that can happen.
 

Johnny Utah

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Toro said:
aeon said:
Nope i said it was designed to withstand multiple jet liner impact, and i said that demolition crew people told me, the only way to explain how the tower fell, is they had explosives, otherwise we would have seen something chaotic.

You are totally missing the point!

The fact that it was designed that way does mean, in actuallity, it will play out that way.

Its not a difficult concept to figure out.
Aeon is using talking points from Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones on 9/11..

Charlie Sheen Alex Jones 911 September World Trade Center Demolition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s995tPl-zU&search=world trade center


:lol:
 

mabudon

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Just wated to point out how funny it is to have folks typing one totally unproven and highly unlikely line-of-thought in BOLD asif it totally contradicts another "hopefully" unlikely and most certainly just as unproven theory


is this where a good debater would type in "PWNED" ????
man you guys take the cake, still trying to tell folks that your totally unfounded opinions trump those of others (and by others I would be meaning aeon, since it's just Johny Utah and Jay versus him for the most part in here)

man, what's the largest most obnoxious font-size we can get on here?? pull that out and we'll see some REAL debates LMAO
 

Jay

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Hey mabudon...just wanted to point out that you can join the normal people in this debate anytime now....

Shall I hold my breath?

is this where a good debater would type in "PWNED" ????

Fuck'en right it is...