85% of drivers have never used transit

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85% of drivers have never used transit

The vast majority of Canadians who drive every day have never attempted any other way of getting to work, according to a new survey published Wednesday on the typical commute last year.

The survey by Statistics Canada found that 82 per cent of Canadian workers drive to work, 12 per cent take some sort of public transit, while six per cent walk or bike to work.

Of the 10.6 million workers who commuted by car, 15 per cent, or 1.6 million, had tried using public transit to get to work. But nine million had never tried any other way of getting to work.

A vast majority of drivers said their main reason for not trying anything else was because it would be inconvenient.

The average Canadian commute to work was 26 minutes in 2010, the data showed. Those who walk or bike to work had the shortest commute, on average, at 14 minutes. Although there's wide disparity, drivers could expect a 24 minute commute, on average.

But those who rely on public transit took an average of 44 minutes to get to work every day — almost triple the amount of time it takes walkers and cyclists, and nearly double what drivers do.

Transit users who live outside of large urban centres fared even worse. It takes them an average of 51 minutes to get to work every day, compared to 36 for their big city counterparts.

Perhaps not surprisingly, average commute times overall are higher depending on the size of the city one lives in. Torontonians have the longest commutes in the country, 33 minutes on average. They are followed by Montrealers at 31, Vancouverites at 30, Ottawans at 27, Calgarians at 26 and Edmontonians at 23 minutes per commute, on average.

85% of drivers have never used transit
 

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A vast majority of drivers said their main reason for not trying anything else was because it would be inconvenient.



It certainly would be inconvenient for me. Instead of a 15 min drive to work, and 15 min home, I would have to arrange for before-school care for my kids, then get the kids there, then get to the bus stop, take a 10 min bus ride to transfer, then another 15 min bus ride to work. Then, at the end of the day, I'd have to reverse the process, somehow getting to the after-school sitter's place in time to pick up the kids, then find a way to get from there to home.

I just don't understand why more people don't use public transit.
 

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I just don't understand why more people don't use public transit.

My underlying "theory" for this is the way metropolis' develop over time. While we have a cascading level of municipal development (ie. suburbs and other cities outside main cities), it is the big megacities that people continue to rely on for lucrative opportunities. That's why we still depend on these obscene commutes into Toronto.

Unfortunately, a symptom of this problem is that widespread public services are underdeveloped. We can see an example of this in the recent decision by the Toronto administration to scrap Transit City in favour of the subway system relegated strictly to Scarborough.
 

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Way back when, up in the frozen North, we had buses that drove us to work at the refinery. Fairly inexpensive and always on time.

Got to shoot the shyte with yer buddies on the way in, and plan an evening's debauchery on the way out.

If I could have afforded a car back then, I would have driven and missed out on a big slice of life.

:smile:
 

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Transit works pretty well for me in Toronto as I live two minutes from a subway stop and I work right next to a subway stop, unfortunately though, not everyone has subway stops next to their house/work so I can see why people would be frustrated using it.
 

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If you are a gadget person there is an app coming out that tracks your bus so you don't have to freeze your nuts off.
 

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If you are a gadget person there is an app coming out that tracks your bus so you don't have to freeze your nuts off.

I can send a txt message to the TTC which will reply with the arrival time of the next scheduled streetcar, pretty handy if it's cold/raining out.
 

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Our metropolitan areas are the children of the age of automobiles. There's little use complaining about the bad public transit in your city. Your city was designed to have bad public transit.

In Vancouver, for example, public transit ceases to become a viable option. pretty much the moment you leave the city proper. It's fine in parts of Burnaby and Richmond but **** everywhere else. And I don't mean viable option for commuters. I mean for city planners. Urban density in greater Vancouver is so spread out, an effective transit system would be impossible.

Curb urban sprawl and promote density and you'll have closer communities, more energy efficient communities, fewer cars and more effective transit.
 

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Curb urban sprawl and promote density and you'll have closer communities, more energy efficient communities, fewer cars and more effective transit.

Municipalities like Mississauga, Vaughan or Markham really need to economically distance themselves from Toronto. Extra incentives should be provided to keep local residents working locally. Either that, or people that live in the burbs just have to take it upon themselves to stop commuting to Toronto for their green.
 

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I'm sorry but as I was reading the article, I was shaking my head and wondering if the CBC hired Captain Obvious to write it for them.

Most drivers never use transit? Wow.Who woulda thought...
People who cycle and walk to work have shorter commutes? No kidding... because maybe if they had longer commutes they would be forced to use motorized transportation...

First off, the 85% of drivers who have never used public transit translates into roughly 70% of commuters, which is still high but doesn't have the emotional impact that the higher number has.

I think we also need to look at some of our realities. We have a large rural population in this country, which as alluded to by Corduroy, have no public transit option at all. Factor in the design limitations imposed by the cities and their sprawls, and the convenience factor goes way down. If people can't save significant time or money by utilizing transit services, most people will opt for their own transportation because of the comfort and flexibility it affords them.
 

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85% of drivers have never used transit

The vast majority of Canadians who drive every day have never attempted any other way of getting to work, according to a new survey published Wednesday on the typical commute last year.

The survey by Statistics Canada found that 82 per cent of Canadian workers drive to work, 12 per cent take some sort of public transit, while six per cent walk or bike to work.

Of the 10.6 million workers who commuted by car, 15 per cent, or 1.6 million, had tried using public transit to get to work. But nine million had never tried any other way of getting to work.

A vast majority of drivers said their main reason for not trying anything else was because it would be inconvenient.

The average Canadian commute to work was 26 minutes in 2010, the data showed. Those who walk or bike to work had the shortest commute, on average, at 14 minutes. Although there's wide disparity, drivers could expect a 24 minute commute, on average.

But those who rely on public transit took an average of 44 minutes to get to work every day — almost triple the amount of time it takes walkers and cyclists, and nearly double what drivers do.

Transit users who live outside of large urban centres fared even worse. It takes them an average of 51 minutes to get to work every day, compared to 36 for their big city counterparts.

Perhaps not surprisingly, average commute times overall are higher depending on the size of the city one lives in. Torontonians have the longest commutes in the country, 33 minutes on average. They are followed by Montrealers at 31, Vancouverites at 30, Ottawans at 27, Calgarians at 26 and Edmontonians at 23 minutes per commute, on average.

85% of drivers have never used transit

Kind of amazing isn't it? You hear people talking all the time about how strapped they are financially and yet they are willing to shell out $.50 or more/km to operate a vehicle plus another $1 or more an hour after it's parked. I understand there are circumstances where driving is mandatory. Drivers are so impatient these days, everything has to happen NOW. Maybe when gas gets up to $2 or $3 a litre, we see an improvement in attitude! :smile: