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The upcoming G20 summit in Berlin promises to be a lot livelier than the gatherings of the past.

And, yes, that's because of the terrible-tempered man baby/president, Donald Trump. Everybody, friend and foe, by now has taken the measure of this emotionally dysfunctional head of state and this will likely be the beginning of a grand realignment of relationships between Washington and other powerful nations.

Hamburg officials are already bracing for what could be huge anti-Trump demonstrations. Perhaps they'll take a page out of the Brits' playbook and stage a mass mooning along Trump's limo route. It sounds as though plans are underway to humiliate the man who knows no shame. Tough gig.

As host, Angela Merkel gets to set the agenda and her focus will be on the looming climate change emergency. Trump showed what he thinks of that problem during the G7 summit.

The G20 leaders are a thoroughly mixed bag of statesmen, thugs and, well, Trump. Putin, Erdogan, Modi, Widodo, Salman al Saud, Trump and the badly winged Theresa May. Everyone is going to want something from Trump even if it's just to be left alone.

The Guardian's Richard Wolfe thinks the "leader of the free world" could be sidelined.

This is the Trump paradox, five months into his presidency: the more he tries to assert US leadership, the less of a leadership role he plays. For someone who campaigned on the promise to make America great again, the reality of government has been an exercise in looking weak again and again.
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It is possible to measure how much Trump has made America weak again. The Pew Research Center surveyed more than 40,000 people in 37 countries this year, examining global attitudes to the US and the president since Barack Obama left office. The numbers are grim reading for anyone but Vladimir Putin.

Confidence in the US president has collapsed 42 points to just 22%, while favorable views of the country overall have dropped 15 points to 49%. The declines are staggering in European countries, and the 10 countries where US presidential favorability ratings plunged the most includes South Korea and Japan: two allies who are clearly not reassured by Trump’s belligerent tone toward North Korea.


Trump starts his presidency at the low point where George W Bush ended his, after years of cowboy diplomacy and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

There are just two countries registering a rise in confidence since the Obama era ended: Israel and Russia. In Israel, where Obama clashed repeatedly with the Netanyahu government, confidence has risen 7 points, from 49 to 56%: hardly a tidal wave of happiness.

The only country to fully embrace Donald Trump is Mother Russia herself, where confidence has rocketed 42 points, from 11% to 53%. Given the number of Russian immigrants in Israel, the two countries may really reflect only one dynamic: the curious case of Trump’s crush on Moscow.
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The result of all this chest-thumping is the opposite of its intended effect. Instead of promoting American leadership, Trump is leaving a vacuum in Europe that is being filled by the German-French alliance. With Britain busy with its own Brexit chaos, that leaves Trump and the US with fewer friends and less influence.

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Much like political junkies in America, the international community of elected officials and policymakers seems exhausted by five months of Trump’s engagement with the world. But that exhaustion is not just the result of Trump; rather, it follows a path of disappointment stretching back more than a decade.

We can almost afford to take a break from American leadership,” says Robin Niblett, the director of Chatham House, an international affairs thinktank. “First we had George W Bush and the failures in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then Obama ended up failing to follow through on the rhetoric in the Middle East. And now we have Trump. That’s quite a trio. Does he put an end to the withdrawal of American leadership? It’s a short step from leading from behind to not leading at all.”

Other presidents have been lampooned. Europeans considered Reagan as lightweight as Trump. George W Bush threatened to blow up international peace, much like Trump.


But the pace and the depth of Trump’s decline is astonishing, and the gap between his rhetoric and the reality is intercontinental. As George W Bush discovered, the unilateral path is hard to travel when America’s allies are essential players on everything from economic to military cooperation. The first six months do not bode well for Trump or America’s fortunes.


If this is Trump’s idea of a stronger America, his foreign foes have less to worry about than his friends.
 

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The US finally gets a real leader that stands up for his taxpayers and the whole world hates him for it. It would appear they do not like having to pay their own bills.
 

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The US finally gets a real leader that stands up for his taxpayers and the whole world hates him for it. It would appear they do not like having to pay their own bills.
Do you have an example of any tax cuts he has made to help out the average working man......?
 

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Who would have guessed just a few months after the US presidential election that Angela Merkel would emerge as the new leader of the free world. Way to go Dumpster.
 

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Who would have guessed just a few months after the US presidential election that Angela Merkel would emerge as the new leader of the free world. Way to go Dumpster.

Can you imagine young Angela, growing up in the GDR, believing that before the Iron Curtain fell?

The Dumpster, on the other hand, probably thinks that it's his destiny to be a monarch. Such is the way with massive egos like that one.
 

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As host, Angela Merkel gets to set the agenda and her focus will be on the looming climate change emergency. Trump showed what he thinks of that problem during the G7 summit.

lol, no.
It will be the economy, Russia, the economy, and Russia. With a EU sideshow of the illegal migration, gathering speed again.
Nobody gives a hoot about global warming today.




Then Obama ended up failing everything except bombing the hell out of the Middle East.

ftfy.

So, everybody loved Obongo, and he made an even bigger mess than Bush.
By that measure, everyone hating Trump suits me just fine.



Who would have guessed just a few months after the US presidential election that Angela Merkel would emerge as the new leader of the free world. Way to go Dumpster.

Trump made it clear during the election he was going to be President of the USA,
not the Global Gibs Fund. Sorry u mad about it.
 

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Can you imagine young Angela, growing up in the GDR, believing that before the Iron Curtain fell?

The Dumpster, on the other hand, probably thinks that it's his destiny to be a monarch. Such is the way with massive egos like that one.

Compared to what?
:)
YOUR ego writing something that gossipy?'

lol
what a gossip!

"Gossip:
Gossip is idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others; the act is also known as dishing or tattling. Gossip has been researched in terms of its evolutionary psychology origins. This has found gossip to be an important means by which people can monitor cooperative reputations and so maintain widespread indirect reciprocity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip



"..and she said: "Hillary is going to win by a mudslide!"
 

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The upcoming G20 summit in Berlin promises to be a lot livelier than the gatherings of the past.

Hamburg officials are already bracing for what could be huge anti-Trump demonstrations.
Makes a body wonder what Hamburg officials are worried about, if the G20's in Berlin.
 

Bar Sinister

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lol, no.


Trump made it clear during the election he was going to be President of the USA,
not the Global Gibs Fund. Sorry u mad about it.

And I am sorry you don't understand just how idiotic it is that a nation with Germany's economy and population has supplanted the US as world leader. I know that it will only last until the US actually elects someone competent, but for now Germany's leader is more respected than that of the US. BTW isolationism did not work very well for the US the last time it tried it.
 

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Actually, I'm pretty sure Trump will be the least of the problems there. The EU is in turmoil and England wants out of it. Europe has bitten off more than it can chew with regard to refugees. Then there's the Asshole in charge of Syria (not that that has anything to do with the G 20 per se) but he's still like "the elephant in the room". Trump is a choir boy compared to that asshole. I think Putin could get assassinated. That will be minor compared to the regular violence perpetrated by the terrorists. Anyway the G 20 conference will be fun to watch. :) :)
 

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lol, no.

Trump made it clear during the election he was going to be President of the USA,
not the Global Gibs Fund. Sorry u mad about it.
I don't know what the Global Gibs Fund is but you are 100% correct, he said he would be President of the USA but he is still failing his supporters by allowing the USA to roam aimlessly around the Middle East.

He also proclaimed to "remove America from these useless wars", but so far, nothing........

On the eve of the 100 days in office milestone, President Donald Trump claims he is both a nationalist and a globalist — despite campaign promises that his presidency would reject globalism and put America first.

“Hey, I’m a nationalist and a globalist,” Trump told the Wall Street Journal on Thursday. “I’m both.”

Trump:
 

justlooking

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Germany's leader is more respected than that of the US.

:lol: Is this what the CBC is telling you these days ? Didn't look like that in Poland yesterday.

Merkel is a joke. Everyone makes fun of her. The V4 refuses the migrant invasion, the Greeks have her with a full mustache,everyone is running up their debt machine, and the UK is leaving. Today, Hamburg is burning. If the Italians would be permitted to have a referendum, they would be out. All on her watch.
She'll be very lucky to survive September.




I don't know what the Global Gibs Fund is but you are 100% correct, he said he would be President of the USA but he is still failing his supporters by allowing the USA to roam aimlessly around the Middle East.He also proclaimed to "remove America from these useless wars", but so far, nothing........

I'll bet for years you have been saying that America should stop the foreign wars, and then watched Barry run up the score to 7 countries and hundreds of thousands dead.

At least he hasn't started anything new, unlike the previous guy. 100 days.. give him some time please.
 

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:lol: Is this what the CBC is telling you these days ? Didn't look like that in Poland yesterday.

Merkel is a joke. Everyone makes fun of her. The V4 refuses the migrant invasion, the Greeks have her with a full mustache,everyone is running up their debt machine, and the UK is leaving. Today, Hamburg is burning. If the Italians would be permitted to have a referendum, they would be out. All on her watch.
She'll be very lucky to survive September.
Trump, on the other hand, is cheered by bussed-in crowds and nobody ever, EVER! makes fun of him.
 

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Trump, on the other hand, is cheered by bussed-in crowds and nobody ever, EVER! makes fun of him.

Oh, but Trump isnt a world leader anymore, didn't you watch the CBC last night ?
So it doesn't matter what he says anymore.

Give it 2 weeks, they'll be saying soon enough that Trudeau is now leader of the free world.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Oh, but Trump isnt a world leader anymore, didn't you watch the CBC last night ?
Um. . . no. I try to minimize the time I spend with the idiot box clamped to my face, and even were I to accept that, wouldn't be hard to find a more professional operation than CBC.
So it doesn't matter what he says anymore.
True, but that's not the reason.

Give it 2 weeks, they'll be saying soon enough that Trudeau is now leader of the free world.
It's like watching a 7-year-old kid pretend he's Superman.

The client states are always good for a laugh.
 

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:lol:


I'll bet for years you have been saying that America should stop the foreign wars, and then watched Barry run up the score to 7 countries and hundreds of thousands dead.

At least he hasn't started anything new, unlike the previous guy. 100 days.. give him some time please.



Ummmmmmmm.......If you search out my posts on the subject you would understand that I have been 100% against American Imperialism no matter who commits it and further to that I am 100% against the Trudeau Liberals supporting the brutal Saudi regime.....
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I'll bet for years you have been saying that America should stop the foreign wars, and then watched Barry run up the score to 7 countries and hundreds of thousands dead.
Yep, just like you were praying for war until it was Obama who got into one.

By the way, just for funsies, which 7 countries are those?