2016 Presidential Campaign
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She's starting to get as funny as Obama.
Hillary Clinton at the Al Smith Dinner was hilarious and poignant.
Hillary Clinton at the Al Smith Dinner was hilarious and poignant.
As a war hero, I wonder what Khan's son would say if he could speak? It is possible he would have quite a different view than his father's about those who sent him to war in the first place.
Shows you who REALLY is in Wall Street's backpocket doesn't it. They do not want a Trump victory any more than they wanted Brexit and are using a threat of a currency and stock meltdown to cow voters.
NY Times deems the chance of Hillary win at 95%. I remain skeptical.
I watched the two candidates give speeches at the Alfred Smith Dinner last night, hosted by Cardinal Dolan, in support of Catholic Charities. CNN spun it as an awkward over the line presentation by Donald Trump, of course.. but i think both candidates had some pretty good lines.
I saw their humour as reflective of their personalities. Trump was the edgy, raw outsider given to biting sarcasm. Hillary was the inside the beltway bureaucrat.. given to more subtle satire. Both carried brass knuckles in their velvet gloves for the event. Both got some good natured sarcastic boos.
Cardinal Dolan said after the event that Trump had complimented Clinton, calling her tough and talented. I think she's probably both of those.. but she's just incapable of doing anything but carrying on the disastrous disassembly of the economy and society that has driven America to the brink over the last 40 years. She is utterly without imagination, vision or independence.
Hillary's election, if inevitable, is a grim prospect for the entire West. We'll see.
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Well, Mr. Khan didn't express a view of those who sent him to war in the first place, so we wouldn't know even if he could speak.
Oh, and by the way, "those who sent him to war" were Bush and Cheney. Humayun Khan was killed in 2004.
The same as selling dish detergent. Pathetic soiling of his sons memory with partisan politics.
Anyway, if you'd asked someone last year about your matchup everyone would have laughed and said he would hand her the win.
It looks like Republicans really are that dumb because that's exactly what happened.
It looks like Republicans really are that dumb because that's exactly what happened.
I have to admit Trump was funny (crazy and not presidential for sure) when he did his speech on how he would accept the outcome of the election only if he won. I thought it was really hilarious. He should be a comedian, he's so funny.
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A few years ago I posted an article by David Frum in which he predicted the decline of the Republican Party. I was roundly criticized by right wingers in CC, many of whom seemed to think I wrote the article and most of whom did not seem to understand it. It seems Mr. Frum got it right as he predicted exactly the sort of debacle in the Republican Party that is occurring now. Here is an update by a different author who is forecasting an identical future for the Republicans courtesy of their current presidential candidate.
Why the GOP is doomed
COMMENT Trump will not reach out to Democrats
Whatever hopes Republicans may have had of their candidate salvaging a vestige of respectability from the charred rubble of his presidential campaign, those are now gone.
In his third and final televised encounter with Democrat Hillary Clinton Wednesday, Donald Trump turned in a braying, scowling, often incoherent performance, which he capped, astonishingly, by declining to say he would accept the voters’ verdict Nov. 8.
Given the state of play, particularly in the populous swing states that have moved toward the Democrats in recent weeks, Trump needed to win over millions of the undecided, traditional Republicans and some Bernie Sanders Democrats unhappy about voting for Clinton.
He also needed to offset the collapse in his support among women across the political spectrum, brought about by multiple allegations of groping leveled at him since the release of a video of him bragging about sexually assaulting women.
Trump did none of those things.
Instead, the GOP candidate retreated further into his alt- right cocoon, while also, incidentally, riffing at length and incoherently about the war in Iraq and Syria, ignoring or misstating basic facts, such as whether the rebel-held city of Aleppo has fallen ( Trump says it has; it hasn’t), and the identity of the main combatants.
Veering into self- parody, he suggested the current allied campaign to retake the Iraqi city of Mosul from Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant should have been staged as a sneak attack — something that is militarily impossible, given the terrain. He also asserted, mystifyingly, that Iran will be the principal strategic beneficiary of a coalition victory in the battle.
It was a display of incompetence and ignorance to put all his previous forays to shame. Clinton, for her part, was unflappable, solidly if grimly reiterating her main campaign themes and refusing repeatedly to be bowled over by her opponent’s interruptions.
Her best moment, and one of Trump’s worst, came in an exchange about Russia’s Vladimir Putin. The Russian strongman, said Trump, “from everything I see, has no respect for this person (Clinton).”
Not missing a beat, Clinton fired back: “Well, that’s because he’d rather have a puppet as president of the United States.” Trump was left sputtering, “No puppet. No puppet.”
Trump’s professed admiration for Putin has always sounded bizarre, particularly coming from a Republican, and is particularly damaging in light of evidence of Russian involvement in the hacking of Democratic party emails. Clinton’s focus on Putin was in keeping with her long-standing strategy of appealing to national-security-minded Reagan and Bush Republicans for whom the idea of cozying up to a Russian dictator will be anathema.
And here we touch the heart of a core problem for Republicans ( there are so many, one loses count), which has been eclipsed by a campaign that for weeks has focused on Trump’s behaviour: he is neither conservative nor Republican, in anything but name.
Indeed Clinton, as revealed again in their exchanges Wednesday, is by far the closer of the two to traditional Republicanism. Trump made this explicit when he said he “disagreed strongly” with Ronald Reagan ( 198088), a late 20th- century Republican icon, on trade.
Under Reagan and both Bushes, Republicans stood in principle for the two mutually supporting pillars of smaller government and a powerful military.
Beneath the umbrella of smaller government went l ower taxes, l ess regulation, and liberal, globalized trade. Beneath the umbrella of a powerful military went a hawkish posture toward America’s strategic adversaries, including Russia and China, and projection of the Pax Americana through the undisputed primacy of the U.S. Navy.
Reagan’ s cr owning achievement, economically, was the Canada-U.S. free-trade agreement, later expanded to include Mexico, which came into force in 1989. Since then, trade between Canada and the U.S. has more than tripled. In 2015, that amounted to $2.4 billion a day in trade in goods and services. About 35 U.S. states have Canada as their largest export market — which, according to Canadian government estimates, supports nine million American jobs. Trump calls this the worst deal in the history of the world.
Reagan’ s cr owning achievement, strategically, was the defeat of the former Soviet Union, which he de facto forced into penury through its need to compete with his unprecedented arms build-up in the 1980s. George H.W. Bush continued Reagan’s policy of robust internationalism, with his ouster of Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991.
Even George W. Bush, the catastrophe of his 2003 invasion of Iraq notwithstanding, was a classical American internationalist, seeking to project power and stability in the Reagan mould.
With his isolationist ramblings, his repeated threats to tear up the North American free- trade agreement and withdraw American “protection” for allies in Europe and Asia, explicitly undermining the post- war international order, Trump sets himself against the Republican tradition going back to Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s.
And that is the ultimate takeaway from these three debates: The Republican party is truly doomed. The only candidate who comes close to upholding its principles, in 2016, is a Democrat.
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Why the GOP is doomed
COMMENT Trump will not reach out to Democrats
Whatever hopes Republicans may have had of their candidate salvaging a vestige of respectability from the charred rubble of his presidential campaign, those are now gone.
In his third and final televised encounter with Democrat Hillary Clinton Wednesday, Donald Trump turned in a braying, scowling, often incoherent performance, which he capped, astonishingly, by declining to say he would accept the voters’ verdict Nov. 8.
Given the state of play, particularly in the populous swing states that have moved toward the Democrats in recent weeks, Trump needed to win over millions of the undecided, traditional Republicans and some Bernie Sanders Democrats unhappy about voting for Clinton.
He also needed to offset the collapse in his support among women across the political spectrum, brought about by multiple allegations of groping leveled at him since the release of a video of him bragging about sexually assaulting women.
Trump did none of those things.
Instead, the GOP candidate retreated further into his alt- right cocoon, while also, incidentally, riffing at length and incoherently about the war in Iraq and Syria, ignoring or misstating basic facts, such as whether the rebel-held city of Aleppo has fallen ( Trump says it has; it hasn’t), and the identity of the main combatants.
Veering into self- parody, he suggested the current allied campaign to retake the Iraqi city of Mosul from Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant should have been staged as a sneak attack — something that is militarily impossible, given the terrain. He also asserted, mystifyingly, that Iran will be the principal strategic beneficiary of a coalition victory in the battle.
It was a display of incompetence and ignorance to put all his previous forays to shame. Clinton, for her part, was unflappable, solidly if grimly reiterating her main campaign themes and refusing repeatedly to be bowled over by her opponent’s interruptions.
Her best moment, and one of Trump’s worst, came in an exchange about Russia’s Vladimir Putin. The Russian strongman, said Trump, “from everything I see, has no respect for this person (Clinton).”
Not missing a beat, Clinton fired back: “Well, that’s because he’d rather have a puppet as president of the United States.” Trump was left sputtering, “No puppet. No puppet.”
Trump’s professed admiration for Putin has always sounded bizarre, particularly coming from a Republican, and is particularly damaging in light of evidence of Russian involvement in the hacking of Democratic party emails. Clinton’s focus on Putin was in keeping with her long-standing strategy of appealing to national-security-minded Reagan and Bush Republicans for whom the idea of cozying up to a Russian dictator will be anathema.
And here we touch the heart of a core problem for Republicans ( there are so many, one loses count), which has been eclipsed by a campaign that for weeks has focused on Trump’s behaviour: he is neither conservative nor Republican, in anything but name.
Indeed Clinton, as revealed again in their exchanges Wednesday, is by far the closer of the two to traditional Republicanism. Trump made this explicit when he said he “disagreed strongly” with Ronald Reagan ( 198088), a late 20th- century Republican icon, on trade.
Under Reagan and both Bushes, Republicans stood in principle for the two mutually supporting pillars of smaller government and a powerful military.
Beneath the umbrella of smaller government went l ower taxes, l ess regulation, and liberal, globalized trade. Beneath the umbrella of a powerful military went a hawkish posture toward America’s strategic adversaries, including Russia and China, and projection of the Pax Americana through the undisputed primacy of the U.S. Navy.
Reagan’ s cr owning achievement, economically, was the Canada-U.S. free-trade agreement, later expanded to include Mexico, which came into force in 1989. Since then, trade between Canada and the U.S. has more than tripled. In 2015, that amounted to $2.4 billion a day in trade in goods and services. About 35 U.S. states have Canada as their largest export market — which, according to Canadian government estimates, supports nine million American jobs. Trump calls this the worst deal in the history of the world.
Reagan’ s cr owning achievement, strategically, was the defeat of the former Soviet Union, which he de facto forced into penury through its need to compete with his unprecedented arms build-up in the 1980s. George H.W. Bush continued Reagan’s policy of robust internationalism, with his ouster of Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991.
Even George W. Bush, the catastrophe of his 2003 invasion of Iraq notwithstanding, was a classical American internationalist, seeking to project power and stability in the Reagan mould.
With his isolationist ramblings, his repeated threats to tear up the North American free- trade agreement and withdraw American “protection” for allies in Europe and Asia, explicitly undermining the post- war international order, Trump sets himself against the Republican tradition going back to Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s.
And that is the ultimate takeaway from these three debates: The Republican party is truly doomed. The only candidate who comes close to upholding its principles, in 2016, is a Democrat.
PressReader.com - Connecting People Through News
I get that second part, plenty of burned-out bulbs on this here Christmas tree.
But the first part comes from experience. I assume by "think I wrote the article" you mean they held its contents against you? If so, that's because you chose to disseminate it, and can therefore be presumed to agree with it. It's the reaction to the sort of imbecilic coward, which abounds on the internet, who posts wingish (which wing? Does it matter?) trash, and then when braced on it, makes feeble excuses like "I didn't write it, I just called everybody's attention to it." Possibly true, but more often an excuse.
Thank You, Donald Trump
Donald J. Trump could well go down in history as a feminist hero.
For decades, feminists have tried to stir outrage about how women are routinely groped, belittled, and weight-shamed. Yet Mr. Trump’s words and boasts have shown millions of voters, including people who believe feminism is a dirty word, what women endure every day.
This was supposed to be an election where Hillary Clinton had to convince voters that a woman had the fitness and temperament to be president.
Yet instead of worrying whether a woman is too emotional, impulsive and unqualified for high office, voters have been weighing whether that’s true of the man running to be president.
Indeed, Mr. Trump is not just a gift to feminists – he is breathing renewed life into a movement to redefine just what a real man is and ought to be.
Thank You, Donald Trump - NYTimes.com