2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

pgs

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You have a choice between two equal evils. You be phooked and you are nit picking with a Canadian. Do you not see the irony here?
I don't really have any skin in the game , other then the fact that how America goes is a direct reflection of how Canada goes . I do however like to question other peoples thoughts .Sometimes they can make perfect sense of them , but mostly they remain silent once questioned .

I don't really have any skin in the game , other then the fact that how America goes is a direct reflection of how Canada goes . I do however like to question other peoples thoughts .Sometimes they can make perfect sense of them , but mostly they remain silent once questioned .
As an aside I have noticed that not one pro remainer on these boards has answered my question regarding more economic union with America . Not one . Why is that ?
 

Scooby

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Why Donald Trump Will Win

In such a great irony, Donald Trump will be elected the same way the N.D.P in Alberta was, out of a pure hatred for the common politician. A shake up, a change, just plain anything is viewed as better than the status quo, so will it be clear come November.




By Lou Murray JULY 18, 2016
NO POLITICAL LEADER since Ronald Reagan has created the excitement and buzz that Donald Trump has. He is the first politician since that late, great president to go over the heads of the media and elite ruling class and speak directly to the American people.

He is concerned that our country is no longer a country, and that America has sold out its sovereignty to a nondemocratic internationalist order, at the expense of the American worker and of American jobs. He has been criticized by opponents for not having elaborate position papers down to the last detail. Trump, unlike the robotic and dull Mitt Romney, gives no slick PowerPoint presentations. Trump merely says, “We are getting killed.” And the people know exactly what he is talking about.


Trump is an exciting political presence, responsible for drawing new people into the political process. The American people today are frustrated. They feel our whole political process is unresponsive. They continually vote for political reform, sending people to Washington hoping they will do something, and are then betrayed as the newly elected representatives become a saccharine travesty of the reform they clamored for.

What makes a country a country is its sovereignty. A country that has no borders, and whose independence is restricted by internationalist agreements, is no longer a sovereign nation. The Democrats and, sadly, some Republicans (House Speaker Ryan) would allow noncitizens the right to vote, provide free college tuition for them, and would provide welfare benefits while letting more of them stream over our unprotected borders.

It must be reiterated that Trump is not against immigration. He advocates legal immigration. His mother was an immigrant, a Gaelic speaker from the isle of Lewis, off Scotland. Trump believes the process must be legal, as it was for the millions of those who came to America’s shores over the past two centuries seeking the American dream of economic betterment, peace, and prosperity. Trump’s popularity is perplexing to the establishment. But it is readily understood by the majority of Americans.


Trump speaks for the average American worker. He wants prosperity at home and peace abroad. His conservatism is not a dogma. Trump seeks to conserve our best values at home, and not go abroad promoting monolithic internationalism — a monster of many tentacles, as John Quincy Adams warned.

Trump is not a conservative as defined by George F. Will on one of his Weekly Standard cruises. Will, a former Democrat, is in reality no conservative, but is actually a 19th-century liberal ideologue, of the Manchester school of economics. Trump’s thinking is more akin to the nationalism expressed by Theodore Roosevelt, who believed the government should intervene in the economy to protect all Americans, under what he called the Square Deal.


I believe Trump has been under political assault by the media and establishment because he is beholden to no one. Trump runs his own operation from the fifth floor of Trump Tower, in a kind of unfinished storage area. It is not from the plush surroundings of marble and gold featured in “The Apprentice.” Yet from here, with his small group of campaign staff, he has let forth a cry to Washington insiders and the corrupt political establishment: “You’re fired!” It is a cry like a voice from Mount Olympus that echoes in the hearts of the American people and will put him in the White House by a landslide.

-Lou Murray is a delegate to the Republican National Convention from the Eighth Congressional District.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/07/17/why-trump-will-win/qQSwYvfpN5mWFaslAS3LwI/story.html
 

Danbones

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Re: Why Donald Trump Will Win

and remember folks:
Politics is Fake and Staged
Yes it is...
liveleak.com
view?i=b4d_1469270028
 
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Highball

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Re: Why Donald Trump Will Win

In my area of residence there are many angry voters. Many feel the "Change you can believe in" promise made by Obama was changed to "We keep altering it until you can swallow it." Come the November election many would vote for anyone but an old line established politician just fearing more of the same would be coming.
 

coldstream

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Re: Why Donald Trump Will Win

I agree with a lot of that article. Only Trump is a lot smarter and more genuine that Ronald Reagan ever was.

Reagan was a classic NeoCon free market globalist shill.. who used a hustle of old fashioned, down home 'patriotism' to sell out his country to imperial supranational trading and financial cartels.

Donald Trump's policies are, in fact, the antithesis of trickle down, anti nationalist Reaganomics.
 
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talloola

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Which one are you referring to......?

ha ha , good one, as trump lied many times throughout his speech, but I guess that
doesn't count. just lie to stupid people who will probably believe you, to get votes,
as they won't know any different.
 

pgs

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ha ha , good one, as trump lied many times throughout his speech, but I guess that
doesn't count. just lie to stupid people who will probably believe you, to get votes,
as they won't know any different.
Yet you believe Hillary .
 

Locutus

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Re: Why Donald Trump Will Win

5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win


07/23/2016 03:45 pm 15:45:28 | Updated 1 hour ago
Michael Moore Oscar and Emmy-winning Director

Friends:

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November. This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, 'cause you'll be saying them for the next four years: "PRESIDENT TRUMP."

Never in my life have I wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.

I can see what you're doing right now. You're shaking your head wildly - "No, Mike, this won't happen!" Unfortunately, you are living in a bubble that comes with an adjoining echo chamber where you and your friends are convinced the American people are not going to elect an idiot for president. You alternate between being appalled at him and laughing at him because of his latest crazy comment or his embarrassingly narcissistic stance on everything because everything is about him. And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real. Trying to soothe yourself with the facts - "77% of the electorate are women, people of color, young adults under 35 and Trump cant win a majority of any of them!" - or logic - "people aren't going to vote for a buffoon or against their own best interests!" - is your brain's way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, "oh, a tire just blew out," or, "wow, who's playing with firecrackers?" because you don't want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It's the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said "a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center." We want to - we need to - hope for the best because, frankly, life is already a **** show and it's hard enough struggling to get by from paycheck to paycheck. We can't handle much more bad news. So our mental state goes to default when something scary is actually, truly happening. The first people plowed down by the truck in Nice spent their final moments on earth waving at the driver whom they thought had simply lost control of his truck, trying to tell him that he jumped the curb: "Watch out!," they shouted. "There are people on the sidewalk!"

Well, folks, this isn't an accident. It is happening. And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen - and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we're in.

Don't get me wrong. I have great hope for the country I live in. Things are better. The left has won the cultural wars. Gays and lesbians can get married. A majority of Americans now take the liberal position on just about every polling question posed to them: Equal pay for women - check. Abortion should be legal - check. Stronger environmental laws - check. More gun control - check. Legalize marijuana - check. A huge shift has taken place - just ask the socialist who won 22 states this year. And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it's hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November - who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who's the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking *** all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot? That's right. That's the high level of danger we're in. And don't fool yourself -- no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.
"You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real."​
Here are the 5 reasons Trump is going to win:


mo


5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win
 

pgs

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Re: Why Donald Trump Will Win

5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win


07/23/2016 03:45 pm 15:45:28 | Updated 1 hour ago
Michael Moore Oscar and Emmy-winning Director

Friends:

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November. This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, 'cause you'll be saying them for the next four years: "PRESIDENT TRUMP."

Never in my life have I wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.

I can see what you're doing right now. You're shaking your head wildly - "No, Mike, this won't happen!" Unfortunately, you are living in a bubble that comes with an adjoining echo chamber where you and your friends are convinced the American people are not going to elect an idiot for president. You alternate between being appalled at him and laughing at him because of his latest crazy comment or his embarrassingly narcissistic stance on everything because everything is about him. And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real. Trying to soothe yourself with the facts - "77% of the electorate are women, people of color, young adults under 35 and Trump cant win a majority of any of them!" - or logic - "people aren't going to vote for a buffoon or against their own best interests!" - is your brain's way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, "oh, a tire just blew out," or, "wow, who's playing with firecrackers?" because you don't want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It's the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said "a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center." We want to - we need to - hope for the best because, frankly, life is already a **** show and it's hard enough struggling to get by from paycheck to paycheck. We can't handle much more bad news. So our mental state goes to default when something scary is actually, truly happening. The first people plowed down by the truck in Nice spent their final moments on earth waving at the driver whom they thought had simply lost control of his truck, trying to tell him that he jumped the curb: "Watch out!," they shouted. "There are people on the sidewalk!"

Well, folks, this isn't an accident. It is happening. And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen - and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we're in.

Don't get me wrong. I have great hope for the country I live in. Things are better. The left has won the cultural wars. Gays and lesbians can get married. A majority of Americans now take the liberal position on just about every polling question posed to them: Equal pay for women - check. Abortion should be legal - check. Stronger environmental laws - check. More gun control - check. Legalize marijuana - check. A huge shift has taken place - just ask the socialist who won 22 states this year. And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it's hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November - who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who's the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking *** all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot? That's right. That's the high level of danger we're in. And don't fool yourself -- no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.
"You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real."​
Here are the 5 reasons Trump is going to win:


mo


5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win
Hmmn makes certain sense , but Hillary will still win .Sad but true , I would have enjoyed the exploding heads .