2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

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That is only with the mainstream media, the general public loves his move her and just about every other area the election touches on. You are going to have a lot of crow to eat after Nov.8.
 

Bar Sinister

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Using this election map as a base.. and assigning only the toss up states


Trump should take
Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan
Iowa, Hew Hampshire
Florida, Georgia, Virginia
Arizona, Nevada


That should give him roughly about 140 votes to his 164 already assigned.


It looks like he should win with about 300 of the 270 Electoral College votes needed for election.


As for Obama's birthplace... since Obama produced his Birth Certificate trumped moved on with the issue 4 years ago. It's the Democratic media that kept the issue alive as a prod. The only time Trump mentioned the issue was when the Liberal Press brought it up. It is a non issue with voters. It has been used by the Black Democratic Congressional Conference as the smoking gun that Trump is a racist. They ignore the widespread evidence of black, hispanic, female executives in his businesses. They ignore the devastating effect of free trade and deindustrialization of the black community, with 25% unemployment.. and inner cities like Detroit, Gary and many others. It is they who are the bigots and ideologues.


Trade and nationalism are the issues which will 'trump' all others.


Trump will win. He'll be good for all of America and the world. You might as well relaxe and go along for ride.

I think this forecast might be a bit more accurate than yours.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Looks like the Dumpster is running out of time.
 

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That was how they got the 3 minutes of clapping. It was taken off a Bush campaign speech just before he quit the race.
 

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That was how they got the 3 minutes of clapping. It was taken off a Bush campaign speech just before he quit the race.

Watch the first video then you can relate to the Sanders one......
 

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Obama Mocks Trump: 'He Missed Civics Lesson About Slavery and Jim Crow'

"I don’t know about you guys, but I am so relieved that the whole birther things is over,” the president said, smiling. “In other breaking news, the world is round, not flat.”






http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/ar...ge/Articles/Template-Main&oref=www.google.com
 

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Seriously, you need to connect with reality.

Trump has pulled up to neck and neck with Hillary, and is ahead by 5 points in some very important swing states, including Florida.

There is now a good chance he will be President.

Hillary is simply so corrupt. So corrupt. In 2014, the Clinton Foundation spent all of 6% of income on charitable causes. SIX PERCENT.

Trump is an idiot.

The way I look at it:

If Trump wins, you say to the Democratic idiots: "WTF did you expect when you nominated Hillary?"

If Clinton wins, you say to the Republican idiots: "WTF did you expect when you nominated Trump?"

One is as bad as the other.
 

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Seriously, you need to connect with reality.

Trump has pulled up to neck and neck with Hillary, and is ahead by 5 points in some very important swing states, including Florida.

There is now a good chance he will be President.

Hillary is simply so corrupt. So corrupt. In 2014, the Clinton Foundation spent all of 6% of income on charitable causes. SIX PERCENT.

Trump is an idiot.

The way I look at it:

If Trump wins, you say to the Democratic idiots: "WTF did you expect when you nominated Hillary?"

If Clinton wins, you say to the Republican idiots: "WTF did you expect when you nominated Trump?"

One is as bad as the other.
You got two blondes running for president what the fukk do you expect.
 

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If Trump wins, you say to the Democratic idiots: "WTF did you expect when you nominated Hillary?"

If Clinton wins, you say to the Republican idiots: "WTF did you expect when you nominated Trump?"

One is as bad as the other.


I partly agree with you but with Trump at least what you see is what you get, with Hillary I don't see anything pertaining to the leadership required to run a country.
 

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Trump has filed bankruptcy several times. Not necessarily a man without faults.



Yes and he has come back from bankruptcy each time better off than before. Just maybe he can save America from its impending bankruptcy.
Some people (democrats) say he hasn't as much wealth as he says. Well you don't maintain a personal jet plain unless you have a hell of a lot of money. When Clinton wanted a plane for her campaign travels, she didn't put up her own money for one.
 

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I'm afraid impending is not the right term.
(in part)
Bankruptcy Of The United States
The United States went "Bankrupt" in 1933 and was declared so by President Roosevelt by Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111 and Executive Order 6260, [See: Senate Report 93-549, pgs. 187 & 594 under the "Trading With The Enemy Act" [Sixty-Fifth Congress, Sess. I, Chs. 105, 106, October 6, 1917], and as codified at 12 U .S.C.A. 95a. The several States of the Union then pledged the faith and credit thereof to the aid of the National Government, and formed numerous socialist committees, such as the "Council Of State Governments," "Social Security Administration" etc., to purportedly deal with the economic "Emergency." These Organizations operated under the "Declaration Of INTERdependence" of January 22, 193, and published some of their activities in "The Book Of The States." The 1937 Edition of The Book Of The States openly declared that the people engaged in such activities as the Farming/Husbandry Industry had been reduced to mere feudal "Tenants" on their Land. [Book Of The States, 1937, pg. 155] This of course was compounded by such activities as price fixing wheat and grains [7 U.S.C.A. 1903], quota regulation I7 U.S.C.A. 1371], and livestock products [7 U.S.C.A. 1903], which have been held consistently below the costs of production; interest on loans and inflation of the paper "Bills of Credit"; leaving the food producers and others in a state of peonage and involuntary servitude, constituting the taking of private property, for the benefit and use of others, without just compensation.
Note: The Council Of State Governments has now been absorbed into such things as the "National Conference Of Commissioners On Uniform State Laws," whose Headquarter's Office is located at 676 North Street, Clair Street, Suite 1700, Chicago, Illinois 60611, and "all" being "members of the Bar," and operating under a different "Constitution And By-Laws" has promulgated, lobbied for, passed, adjudicated and ordered the implementation and execution of their purported statutory provisions, to "help implement international treaties of the United States or where world uniformity would be desirable." [See: 1990/91 Reference Book, National Council Of Commissioners On Uniform State Laws, pg. 2] This is apparently what Robert Dork meant when he wrote "we are governed not by law or elected representatives but by an unelected, unrepresentative, unaccountable committee of lawyers applying no will but their own." [See: The Tempting Of America. Robert H. Bork. pg. 130]
 

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They are all war criminals, take it from there.

How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen
January 15, 1998 How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

by Jeffrey St. Clair - Alexander Cockburn

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [“From the Shadows”], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.
* There are at least two editions