2 NYPD cops shot dead ‘execution style’ in Brooklyn

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Just a point. The fact that Zimmerman was legally within his rights to follow Martin, and possibly confront him (we'll never know), and that Martin was the aggressor, making Zimmerman's self-defence legal, does not mean that Zimmerman is not a complete asswit who provoked the confrontation that led to him killing a teenaged boy.

Someone being asswhit does not make it okay to beat their head off the ground.

Being legal doesn't make it smart,
(no one said it was smart)
or moral, or proper.
Moral? Proper?

Simple fact is that Martin was innocently walking home when Zimmerman, by his own actions and no doubt with visions of hardness dancing in his head, initiated the confrontation.
Your Honor, Counsel is making assumptions about things he has no way of knowing.

Yes, it was legal. Yes, Martin is the one who crossed the legality line. But thinking Zimmerman was anything but a wannabe sh*thead looking for trouble is a mistake.
An idiot, I agree, but it was not murder. It was self defense..
 

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Someone being asswhit does not make it okay to beat their head off the ground.

(no one said it was smart) Moral? Proper?

Your Honor, Counsel is making assumptions about things he has no way of knowing.

An idiot, I agree, but it was not murder. It was self defense..

I just said all that. You can be incredibly cantankerous when you agree with me.
 

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An aside: What does this term mean? I have heard it last couple of days but don't get the reference.


Ah well I'll explain.


Jonathan Gruber is an MIT professor that was one of the main architects to Obamacare. Had full access to the President and his staff. He helped write the whole plan. He was paid according to the government reports about $6 MILLION.


So for the past few years Gruber has been going about the country speaking about the Obamacare. How they lied to get it passed because if they told the truth the people would never go along with it. He called the American voters stupid. He said not being transparent is a good thing when trying to get stuff like this passed because if the people find out it would never work. That all of the lies were needed for the greater good. He said Americans were stupid about economic matters and that if they call the rate increases and force payments taxes they'd never buy it. So that the Obamacare pushers would lie and insurance companies would eventually raise premiums and service rates and pass it down to consumers.


So, the Obamatrons are also Gruber Voters... stupid and gullible.


Recently members of congress grilled Gruber. Both sides of the aisle did. None more vocal than the Democrats for outing them as the sneaky lying thieves that they are.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Ah well I'll explain.


Jonathan Gruber is an MIT professor that was one of the main architects to Obamacare. Had full access to the President and his staff. He helped write the whole plan. He was paid according to the government reports about $6 MILLION.


So for the past few years Gruber has been going about the country speaking about the Obamacare. How they lied to get it passed because if they told the truth the people would never go along with it. He called the American voters stupid. He said not being transparent is a good thing when trying to get stuff like this passed because if the people find out it would never work. That all of the lies were needed for the greater good. He said Americans were stupid about economic matters and that if they call the rate increases and force payments taxes they'd never buy it. So that the Obamacare pushers would lie and insurance companies would eventually raise premiums and service rates and pass it down to consumers.


So, the Obamatrons are also Gruber Voters... stupid and gullible.


Recently members of congress grilled Gruber. Both sides of the aisle did. None more vocal than the Democrats for outing them as the sneaky lying thieves that they are.

Because everything Gruber says is attributable to Obama, the Dumbocrats, and "liberals" generally. But everything any individual person associated with a Republiklan administration says is NOT attributable to the administration, the Republiklans, or "conservatives" generally.
 

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Kinda makes you wonder why the NYPD expressly forbids the chokehold, don't it?

By the way, please explain to me how Eric Garner was threatening the cops' lives?

I calculate you'll respond with several bushels of red herrings, talking about every incident you can think of EXCEPT the Garner incident.

Have at it.
That's just it though, you have to consider every incident, including the one's that are unfair and unjust.

Perhaps what i'm trying to say is many successful police interactions, that resolved public safety issues, were completed because of tactics that are effective.

Lots of people have died because of taser use from police, and now even talking about using them in schools, but nobody seems to have a big problem with that.

Talk about a dicotomy. would we be having this discussion if Garner had died from a taser. Would the story look more like this one:
NYPD Officer Kills Himself over Taser Episode - LawOfficer.com
 

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He must be innocent RCS. He had Skittles.

Yeah, and he must have looked like this when he was murdered:

 

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I'm not cantankerous at all. I just don't buy someone who beats another human beings head off the ground as innocently walking home.

You're right. He was heavily armed with unlicensed Skittles and Arizona Iced Tea, both of which are listed by the ATF as Class 3 controlled weapons. He snuck up on Zimmerman, who was minding his own business innocently, beat him, got shot, and then the Big Old Conspiracy faked the calls where Zimmerman said he was following Martin, cursed him, and expressly disobeyed police dispatcher instructions to leave it alone.
 

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You're right. He was heavily armed with unlicensed Skittles and Arizona Iced Tea, both of which are listed by the ATF as Class 3 controlled weapons.

You don't need weapons to kill someone.

He snuck up on Zimmerman[/QUOTE]

Yes, he did.
who was minding his own business innocently,
Who said that?

beat him, got shot,
Yes he did.
and then the Big Old Conspiracy faked the calls where Zimmerman said he was following Martin,

Well the media doctored the calls.

Have a read:
George Zimmerman Suing NBC Over Edited 911 Tape | TheBlaze.com

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
cursed him, and expressly disobeyed police dispatcher instructions to leave it alone.

911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]
Zimmerman:
OK. [2:28]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]
Zimmerman:
George. He ran.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, what’s your last name?
Zimmerman:
Zimmerman.
911 dispatcher:
What’s the phone number you’re calling from?
Zimmerman:
407-435-2400
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:
Yeah.
911 dispatcher:
Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman:
Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]
Zimmerman:
Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you live in the area?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, yeah, I live here.
911 dispatcher:
OK, what’s your apartment number?
Zimmerman:
It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]
911 dispatcher:
OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]
Zimmerman:
Yeah, that’s fine. [3:43]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, George, I’ll let them know you’ll meet them at …
Zimmerman:
Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at? [3:49]
911 dispatcher:
OK, that’s no problem.
Zimmerman:
My number … you’ve got it?
911 dispatcher:
Yeah, I’ve got it. 435-2400?
Zimmerman:
Yeah, you got it.
911 dispatcher:
OK, no problem. I’ll let them know to call you when they’re in the area. [4:02]
Zimmerman:
Thanks.
911 dispatcher:
You’re welcome.
Call ends 4:07
 

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Ah well I'll explain.


Jonathan Gruber is an MIT professor that was one of the main architects to Obamacare. Had full access to the President and his staff. He helped write the whole plan. He was paid according to the government reports about $6 MILLION.


So for the past few years Gruber has been going about the country speaking about the Obamacare. How they lied to get it passed because if they told the truth the people would never go along with it. He called the American voters stupid. He said not being transparent is a good thing when trying to get stuff like this passed because if the people find out it would never work. That all of the lies were needed for the greater good. He said Americans were stupid about economic matters and that if they call the rate increases and force payments taxes they'd never buy it. So that the Obamacare pushers would lie and insurance companies would eventually raise premiums and service rates and pass it down to consumers.


So, the Obamatrons are also Gruber Voters... stupid and gullible.


Recently members of congress grilled Gruber. Both sides of the aisle did. None more vocal than the Democrats for outing them as the sneaky lying thieves that they are.

Sounds like an apt description of all politicians. Junior and his WMD speech being a prime example.
 

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Well, what with Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Dontre Hamilton, Timothy Russell, Malissa Williams, and a host of others, I guess we got plenty to celebrate this year.

Merry Christmas.

So we have decided that all circumstances are the same and it is obviously always the cops fault regardless?
 

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So we have decided that all circumstances are the same and it is obviously always the cops fault regardless?

No, the people I named are all dead, I believe that at least so far all the cops have walked, and that's what we're celebrating.

Are you having trouble with the word "celebrate?" It means to reflect happily on something, especially with other like-minded folk. Frequently involves cake. Often alcohol.
 

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No, the people I named are all dead, I believe that at least so far all the cops have walked, and that's what we're celebrating.

Are you having trouble with the word "celebrate?" It means to reflect happily on something, especially with other like-minded folk. Frequently involves cake. Often alcohol.

I fear you have had a bit too much alcohol. Please make sure you take public transit today until the alcohol has burned off.
 

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That liberal hate speech has been spread far and wide by De Blasio and his racist shrills. Now the blood is on their hands.


Time for a recall.

Two minority cops cut down by a liberal racist.




Brilliant - yeah right.

Their speech inspired someone to go all the way from Baltimore to Brooklyn just to kill two minority cops. As if there there weren't any in Baltimore, I suppose.


Baltimore --- let's see, that's the place where supposedly they hate Obama so much that five thousand people supposedly walked out on his speech. Gee, if that's the case I would have thought that it would have been the ideal place to put into action a librul racist act such as croaking a cop or two.




Well, if deluded Eagle is to be believed then we should all blame Republican governor Sandoval for the killing of two white cops in Nevada by white supremacists :











Two Las Vegas police officers and bystander killed by white supremacist couple | Daily Mail Online





After all, Sandoval was the one who withdrew police from the site where racist white supremacist Cliven Bundy went on his anti-government rants so that these reichtards could spread their hate unimpeded.


Let's see what Eagle says on this. If he is consistent in his ideas he will agree.