If you think British is a race, there clearly ain't a lot you got right.
Did anybody notice? I mean, seeing as how the local warlords in India did pretty much the same thing for fun.
1 Muslim killed and ten injured after terror attack outside London mosque
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So then the Arabs who got invaded by the Europeans simply got what they gave. And the natives in Canada who got invaded by Europeans got what they gave. And Africans who got invaded by everyone got what they gave. Basically.
There is no reason to single the British out as in any way particularly guilty of this sort of thing. In many ways they were a lot kinder to the populations they conquered than most.
Oh, bullshit. They were no kinder than any other genocides.
I agree with you. Shit happens. There's no reason to weep over this atrocity or that atrocity, it's the way the world goes round.
Too bad you had to f*ck it up with your pathetic attempt to suck Her Majesty's dick.
I think your fragmented argument is hilarious. Mother Nature doesn't care who or what you claim to be. She does not concern herself with the gods of homo sapiens. She is not troubled by the good or evil things that homo sapiens has done or will do in the future. Mother Nature doesn't even care about the morals or laws that homo sapiens claims are inviolate. These beliefs, laws and feelings exist only in the mind of man. And you know what? Mother Nature could care less.
With that said, do you claim to know history?
Here's a video that will explain the spread of Islam before the crusades. It is not pro or anti anything. It's simply a history lesson for when and where Islam started, where Muslims traveled to expand Islam, and a tiny bit about what happened during the Crusades.
[youtube]c7y2LRcf4kc[/youtube]
Au bon marché, guidette!
Mohammad married a much older catholic broad who was run by the Augustines...
(much like the new banker run french dude Macron ) and he and his followeres' job was to do the same as Isus does today- which is run round and tear up the carpet for the bankers.
oh really? the BRITS DREW UP THE BORDERS IN THE MIDEAST and funded the RADICALS driving all the crap we have going on today ( remember Lawrence of Arabia?) and that is the cause of the strife we have today.
They invented things like concentration camps and were among the first colonial empires to machine gun unarmed protestors
Qissa Khwani Bazaar massacre
The gunning down of unarmed people triggered protests across British India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qissa_Khwani_Bazaar_massacre
The Jallianwalla Bagh is a public garden of 6 to 7 acres (28,000 m2), walled on all sides with five entrances.[2] To enter, troops first blocked the entry by a tank and locked the exit. On Dyer's orders, his troops fired on the crowd for ten minutes, directing their bullets largely towards the few open gates through which people were trying to flee. The British government released figures stating 379 dead and 1,200 wounded.[1][3] Other sources place the number of dead at well over 1,000.[4] This "brutality stunned the entire nation",[5] resulting in a "wrenching loss of faith" of the general public in the intentions of the UK.[6] The ineffective inquiry and the initial accolades for Dyer by the House of Lords fuelled widespread anger, leading to the Non-cooperation Movement of 1920–22.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre
and of course wee behind many bombings blamed on the people they held subservient.
Ireland: Barron report confirms British collusion in 1974 Dublin bombings
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/12/irel-d23.html
and caused genocidal famines
An Argument that the Irish Famine was Genocide
The Irish Famine was Genocide
...and they armed the iroqouis and directed them to all but completely wipe out the Huron people I am descendant form here in Ontario
yeah, genocide is benevolence.
sure it is
PS
and oh yeah, Winston Churchill was a founding member of the EU which is in large part responsible for the refugee crisis we have today in Britain and many other countries as well.
PPS LOL, I feel so strongly about genocide I actually green thumbed a Tec post
jeez...what was I tinkin?
(much like the new banker run french dude Macron ) and he and his followeres' job was to do the same as Isus does today- which is run round and tear up the carpet for the bankers.
oh really? the BRITS DREW UP THE BORDERS IN THE MIDEAST and funded the RADICALS driving all the crap we have going on today ( remember Lawrence of Arabia?) and that is the cause of the strife we have today.
They invented things like concentration camps and were among the first colonial empires to machine gun unarmed protestors
Qissa Khwani Bazaar massacre
The gunning down of unarmed people triggered protests across British India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qissa_Khwani_Bazaar_massacre
The Jallianwalla Bagh is a public garden of 6 to 7 acres (28,000 m2), walled on all sides with five entrances.[2] To enter, troops first blocked the entry by a tank and locked the exit. On Dyer's orders, his troops fired on the crowd for ten minutes, directing their bullets largely towards the few open gates through which people were trying to flee. The British government released figures stating 379 dead and 1,200 wounded.[1][3] Other sources place the number of dead at well over 1,000.[4] This "brutality stunned the entire nation",[5] resulting in a "wrenching loss of faith" of the general public in the intentions of the UK.[6] The ineffective inquiry and the initial accolades for Dyer by the House of Lords fuelled widespread anger, leading to the Non-cooperation Movement of 1920–22.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallianwala_Bagh_massacre
and of course wee behind many bombings blamed on the people they held subservient.
Ireland: Barron report confirms British collusion in 1974 Dublin bombings
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/12/irel-d23.html
and caused genocidal famines
An Argument that the Irish Famine was Genocide
The Irish Famine was Genocide
...and they armed the iroqouis and directed them to all but completely wipe out the Huron people I am descendant form here in Ontario
yeah, genocide is benevolence.
sure it is
PS
and oh yeah, Winston Churchill was a founding member of the EU which is in large part responsible for the refugee crisis we have today in Britain and many other countries as well.
PPS LOL, I feel so strongly about genocide I actually green thumbed a Tec post
jeez...what was I tinkin?
if you're concerned about eliminating Islamic terrorism, then you start with the root of the problem.. western imperialism. otherwise shut the **** up, you're just drooling in a cup.
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The ‘hate preacher’ hypocrisy
Douglas Murray
Miqdaad Versi of the Muslim Council of Britain on the BBC's Daily Politics
Douglas Murray
22 June 2017
The Spectator
Well this is interesting. I had got used to the standard response to terror. I had thought that when 22 young people get blown up by a suicide bomber in Manchester we were meant to say that it made ‘no sense’, that it ‘wouldn’t change us’ and that ‘love’ must overcome ‘hate’.
I thought that when a crowd of people get run over and a policeman stabbed to death we were meant to say ‘We may never know’ what caused such an outrage. And that when people slit the throats of Londoners while shouting ‘This is for Allah’ we agreed that only perpetrators themselves were responsible for such inexplicable actions? At most, weren’t we just meant to rouse ourselves to a chorus of ‘Don’t look back in anger’ and move on?
Well what a very different standard applies when the victims are a group of Muslims exiting a mosque. Since that despicable attack I have watched with astonishment as British Islamists and the British left who are so insistent that we should all refrain from ‘pointing fingers’ after any Islamist attack have taken both their fists out for this one.
On Monday’s BBC Daily Politics, a spokesperson for the Muslim Council of Britain – Miqdaad Versi – chose to leap right on in and name me as a hate preacher who should not be allowed to speak in public. I am quite certain that there is no score-settling going on here. I’m sure that this statement has nothing to do with the MCB’s ongoing bitterness about being barred from engagement with the British government – a stance which has held since one of the MCB’s leaders signed a declaration approving of attack on British ships. And I’m sure that Miqdaad’s strange equation of me with the jailed preacher Anjem Choudary has nothing to do with my previous calling out of his own penchant for dodgy facts.
Tom Wilson discusses far-right extremism on the BBC's Daily Politics
Later on Monday the BBC allowed it to happen again. The BBC chose to interview Massoud Shadjareh about the previous night’s terror attack in Finsbury Park. Mr Shadjareh is one of the leaders of the Islamic Human Rights Commission. The IHRC is a group which, as I have said here before, is ‘farcically misnamed’. In his brief vox pop Shadjareh made sure to get straight down to business, swiftly naming the Muslim reformer Maajid Nawaz and yours truly as ‘hate preachers’ who must be silenced. Again, I am sure that Mr Shadjareh was not just settling scores.
For instance I am sure he has forgotten the fact that I called his organisation out two years ago when they organised an event to defame and laugh at the murdered staff of Charlie Hebdo. I am sure he has forgotten the time when he tried to complain to my editor for the wholly accurate manner in which he and his organisation were described.
The MCB and IRHC’s contention that people like Maajid Nawaz and me are in fact the moral equivalents of Anjem Choudary only further demonstrates their own extremism. Naturally they struggle to find anyone we have radicalised, any people we have sent to go and behead people or any occasions when we have called for people to drive trucks into crowds of pedestrians. What all this does point to is one of the central sicknesses of our time.
As I have mentioned for many years, when some far-right neo-Nazi does something we all know precisely what to do. We find out who their circle is, find out who radicalised them, who told them to go and kill people and work out how to counter their views.
With Islamic terrorism a different response is applied. As I wrote here the other week, when it emerges that the mosque a suicide bomber went to has been handing out anti-Western leaflets we shut down the member of the public who raises the point and applaud the people who say it’s not true and wish the facts away. In my recent book I describe this as a problem of primary and secondary problems. We are excellent and adept at addressing secondary problems, while confused and disorientated about how to deal with the primary ones.
Elsewhere, Sayeeda Warsi has cited this piece of mine as an example of the ‘dehumanising of Muslims’ while refraining from mentioning that the piece just happens to criticise her. And I see that the radio host James O’Brien has joined in too. I’m sure this has nothing to do with a piece I wrote in February which criticised his ignorant attack on a female Muslim reformer who is a friend of mine.
And then there’s Guardian columnist Owen Jones. Owen has spent most of the last week trying to present the Conservative Party as deliberately burning British citizens to death. His other major occupation of late has been presenting the DUP as the biggest threat to gay people since the last band of Christian conservatives he could find. He decided to share a tweet by someone called Matt Zarb-Cousin, who also called me a hate preacher. Yet whatever names I am called it remains my view that an ideology which would have both Owen and me hanged is worse than an ideology that could refuse to bake our wedding cakes.
Of course the striking thing about this is that if, hypothetically, I were to go on the BBC and say that the MCB or IHRC were basically jihadists the words wouldn’t be out of my mouth before I would be (rightly) shut down by the presenter.
But the same standards do not apply in reverse. We seem to live in an era where anything at all can be said in one direction. On The Daily Politics Jo Coburn tried to remedy the free-pass she gave to MCB on Monday by allowing some defence of me. I am grateful to her. However she still seems to think that pointing out that the larger a country’s Muslim population the larger the number of extremists there are numerically likely to be is a lie and akin to hate speech. It also seemed to be her view that unless you say you would like ‘more Islam’ in the public square then you are a potential hate preacher. And it still seemed to be her view that if you worry that the reformers in Islam (however much you should still support them) might not win – a consideration on which our future security could depend – then you are a hate-preacher.
Today the BBC has been forced to interrupt their news broadcasts to issue a formal apology to me for allowing their guest to defame me on air earlier this week. It follows a similar apology the BBC has had to issue to Maajid Nawaz.
BBC apologises to Douglas Murray
I am grateful to the BBC for correcting the record and apologising for their terrible error. For me this closes that episode. But it does not change the bigger picture in which it becomes increasingly clear that the far-left and their allies in Britain are prepared to do and say absolutely anything in order to win. I am sorry for that. But in response I will not become so irresponsible as to pretend that everyone who does not agree with me is a criminal and a terrorist. I am sorry that my critics have decided to adopt a lower standard of their own.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/hate-preacher-hypocrisy/
The ‘hate preacher’ hypocrisy
Douglas Murray
Miqdaad Versi of the Muslim Council of Britain on the BBC's Daily Politics
Douglas Murray
22 June 2017
The Spectator
Well this is interesting. I had got used to the standard response to terror. I had thought that when 22 young people get blown up by a suicide bomber in Manchester we were meant to say that it made ‘no sense’, that it ‘wouldn’t change us’ and that ‘love’ must overcome ‘hate’.
I thought that when a crowd of people get run over and a policeman stabbed to death we were meant to say ‘We may never know’ what caused such an outrage. And that when people slit the throats of Londoners while shouting ‘This is for Allah’ we agreed that only perpetrators themselves were responsible for such inexplicable actions? At most, weren’t we just meant to rouse ourselves to a chorus of ‘Don’t look back in anger’ and move on?
Well what a very different standard applies when the victims are a group of Muslims exiting a mosque. Since that despicable attack I have watched with astonishment as British Islamists and the British left who are so insistent that we should all refrain from ‘pointing fingers’ after any Islamist attack have taken both their fists out for this one.
On Monday’s BBC Daily Politics, a spokesperson for the Muslim Council of Britain – Miqdaad Versi – chose to leap right on in and name me as a hate preacher who should not be allowed to speak in public. I am quite certain that there is no score-settling going on here. I’m sure that this statement has nothing to do with the MCB’s ongoing bitterness about being barred from engagement with the British government – a stance which has held since one of the MCB’s leaders signed a declaration approving of attack on British ships. And I’m sure that Miqdaad’s strange equation of me with the jailed preacher Anjem Choudary has nothing to do with my previous calling out of his own penchant for dodgy facts.
Tom Wilson discusses far-right extremism on the BBC's Daily Politics
Later on Monday the BBC allowed it to happen again. The BBC chose to interview Massoud Shadjareh about the previous night’s terror attack in Finsbury Park. Mr Shadjareh is one of the leaders of the Islamic Human Rights Commission. The IHRC is a group which, as I have said here before, is ‘farcically misnamed’. In his brief vox pop Shadjareh made sure to get straight down to business, swiftly naming the Muslim reformer Maajid Nawaz and yours truly as ‘hate preachers’ who must be silenced. Again, I am sure that Mr Shadjareh was not just settling scores.
For instance I am sure he has forgotten the fact that I called his organisation out two years ago when they organised an event to defame and laugh at the murdered staff of Charlie Hebdo. I am sure he has forgotten the time when he tried to complain to my editor for the wholly accurate manner in which he and his organisation were described.
The MCB and IRHC’s contention that people like Maajid Nawaz and me are in fact the moral equivalents of Anjem Choudary only further demonstrates their own extremism. Naturally they struggle to find anyone we have radicalised, any people we have sent to go and behead people or any occasions when we have called for people to drive trucks into crowds of pedestrians. What all this does point to is one of the central sicknesses of our time.
As I have mentioned for many years, when some far-right neo-Nazi does something we all know precisely what to do. We find out who their circle is, find out who radicalised them, who told them to go and kill people and work out how to counter their views.
With Islamic terrorism a different response is applied. As I wrote here the other week, when it emerges that the mosque a suicide bomber went to has been handing out anti-Western leaflets we shut down the member of the public who raises the point and applaud the people who say it’s not true and wish the facts away. In my recent book I describe this as a problem of primary and secondary problems. We are excellent and adept at addressing secondary problems, while confused and disorientated about how to deal with the primary ones.
Elsewhere, Sayeeda Warsi has cited this piece of mine as an example of the ‘dehumanising of Muslims’ while refraining from mentioning that the piece just happens to criticise her. And I see that the radio host James O’Brien has joined in too. I’m sure this has nothing to do with a piece I wrote in February which criticised his ignorant attack on a female Muslim reformer who is a friend of mine.
And then there’s Guardian columnist Owen Jones. Owen has spent most of the last week trying to present the Conservative Party as deliberately burning British citizens to death. His other major occupation of late has been presenting the DUP as the biggest threat to gay people since the last band of Christian conservatives he could find. He decided to share a tweet by someone called Matt Zarb-Cousin, who also called me a hate preacher. Yet whatever names I am called it remains my view that an ideology which would have both Owen and me hanged is worse than an ideology that could refuse to bake our wedding cakes.
Of course the striking thing about this is that if, hypothetically, I were to go on the BBC and say that the MCB or IHRC were basically jihadists the words wouldn’t be out of my mouth before I would be (rightly) shut down by the presenter.
But the same standards do not apply in reverse. We seem to live in an era where anything at all can be said in one direction. On The Daily Politics Jo Coburn tried to remedy the free-pass she gave to MCB on Monday by allowing some defence of me. I am grateful to her. However she still seems to think that pointing out that the larger a country’s Muslim population the larger the number of extremists there are numerically likely to be is a lie and akin to hate speech. It also seemed to be her view that unless you say you would like ‘more Islam’ in the public square then you are a potential hate preacher. And it still seemed to be her view that if you worry that the reformers in Islam (however much you should still support them) might not win – a consideration on which our future security could depend – then you are a hate-preacher.
Today the BBC has been forced to interrupt their news broadcasts to issue a formal apology to me for allowing their guest to defame me on air earlier this week. It follows a similar apology the BBC has had to issue to Maajid Nawaz.
BBC apologises to Douglas Murray
I am grateful to the BBC for correcting the record and apologising for their terrible error. For me this closes that episode. But it does not change the bigger picture in which it becomes increasingly clear that the far-left and their allies in Britain are prepared to do and say absolutely anything in order to win. I am sorry for that. But in response I will not become so irresponsible as to pretend that everyone who does not agree with me is a criminal and a terrorist. I am sorry that my critics have decided to adopt a lower standard of their own.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/hate-preacher-hypocrisy/
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Muslim shooter = entire religion guilty
Black shooter = entire race guilty
White shooter = mentally troubled lone wolf
LOL :lol:
Das da way it be..
Black shooter = entire race guilty
White shooter = mentally troubled lone wolf
LOL :lol:
Das da way it be..
Suspect in London van attack on Muslims ’ticking time bomb’
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January 22, 2018
Updated:
January 22, 2018 12:19 PM EST
This is a June 19, 2017 file photo of a police cordon at attack near Finsbury Park Mosque in north London.Yui Mok / PA via AP
LONDON — A man accused of driving a van into worshippers near London’s Finsbury Park Mosque became convinced that all Muslims were extremists or rapists in pedophile gangs, a prosecutor said Monday.
Darren Osborne, 48, is accused of driving into a crowd of worshippers attending Ramadan prayers in June. A 51-year-old man, Makram Ali, was killed and nine people were injured in the attack.
London Mosque Crash: At Least One Dead, Ten Hurt 1:36
On the first day of Osborne’s murder trial, prosecutor Jonathan Rees said the “act of extreme violence” was intended to kill as many people as possible. He said prosecutors considered it a terrorist attack.
Osborne was pinned to the ground by several men until police arrived, and was heard to say “I want to kill more Muslims,” Rees said.
He said a handwritten note was found in the cab of the van within hours of the June 19 attack, complaining of terrorists and referring to a case in which several Muslim men were convicted of sexually exploiting women and girls in the northern England town of Rotherham. Osborne had watched a TV drama about a similar case shortly before the attack.
Driver plows crowd outside London mosque
Osborne’s partner, Sarah Andrews, said he had become “brainwashed” and was a “ticking time bomb,” the prosecutor said.
Osborne, of Cardiff, Wales, denies charges of murder and attempted murder.
Suspect in London van attack on Muslims
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January 22, 2018
Updated:
January 22, 2018 12:19 PM EST
This is a June 19, 2017 file photo of a police cordon at attack near Finsbury Park Mosque in north London.Yui Mok / PA via AP
LONDON — A man accused of driving a van into worshippers near London’s Finsbury Park Mosque became convinced that all Muslims were extremists or rapists in pedophile gangs, a prosecutor said Monday.
Darren Osborne, 48, is accused of driving into a crowd of worshippers attending Ramadan prayers in June. A 51-year-old man, Makram Ali, was killed and nine people were injured in the attack.
London Mosque Crash: At Least One Dead, Ten Hurt 1:36
On the first day of Osborne’s murder trial, prosecutor Jonathan Rees said the “act of extreme violence” was intended to kill as many people as possible. He said prosecutors considered it a terrorist attack.
Osborne was pinned to the ground by several men until police arrived, and was heard to say “I want to kill more Muslims,” Rees said.
He said a handwritten note was found in the cab of the van within hours of the June 19 attack, complaining of terrorists and referring to a case in which several Muslim men were convicted of sexually exploiting women and girls in the northern England town of Rotherham. Osborne had watched a TV drama about a similar case shortly before the attack.
Driver plows crowd outside London mosque
Osborne’s partner, Sarah Andrews, said he had become “brainwashed” and was a “ticking time bomb,” the prosecutor said.
Osborne, of Cardiff, Wales, denies charges of murder and attempted murder.
Suspect in London van attack on Muslims
Go f*ck your hat you uneducated troglodyte. The muslims started their shit a mere 14 years after the advent of islam. While the crusades were a direct response to the islamic incursion into Europe.
Same with Myanmar. The Buddhists didn't just suddenly decide they no longer liked the Rohingya. It took years of the Rohingya terrorizing the local Buddhist population for that to happen. They tried forcing their will and religion on a majority population and the majority population finally had enough of their shit. And now, we're all supposed to feel sorry for yet another group of shit-bag muslims who created their own hell because they wanted to be assholes and force people to conform to their idiotic religion.
Except in Canada. Muslims murder two military personnel over a couple of days = two drug addicted, mentally ill lone wolves who obviously felt disenchanted/disenfranchised and we should all feel responsible for it.
White guy kills six muslims in a Mosque in Quebec = 100% for sure guaranteed clear-cut case of christian terrorism and we all should feel responsible for it.
Muslim assaults average Canadian = not a hate crime. Hell, it's not even a crime apparently.
Anyone who assaults a muslim in Canada = definite hate crime even before knowing any details.
And that's the way it works these days. Muslims acting like assholes in Canada is somehow our fault. While Canadians acting like assholes towards muslims is also our fault.
Don't be a dhimmi, dude.
Man who drove van into London crowd convicted of murder
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February 1, 2018
Updated:
February 1, 2018 1:17 PM EST
In this image issued by Metropolitan Police taken from a body worn video recorded following Darren Osborne's initial detention in the early hours of June 19 2017, showing Osborne in a police custody van. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city's Finsbury Park neighborhood.Metropolitan Police / AP
LONDON — A man who steeped himself in far-right, anti-Muslim ideas before driving a van into a crowd of worshippers near a north London mosque was convicted Thursday of murder and attempted murder.
A jury at London’s Woolwich Crown Court deliberated for just an hour before finding 48-year-old Darren Osborne guilty of the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighbourhood.
A 51-year-old man, Makram Ali, was killed and 15 people were injured when a rented van plowed into worshippers gathering after evening prayers during Ramadan.
Prosecutors said Osborne was motivated by extreme Islamophobia and saw Muslims as extremists or rapists in pedophile gangs.
In this file photo dated Monday, June 19, 2017, forensic officers move the van which struck pedestrians near a Mosque at Finsbury Park in north London. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighborhood.
Several men who witnessed the attack pinned Osborne to the ground until police arrived. He was heard to say “I want to kill more Muslims,” prosecutor Jonathan Rees told the jury during the 10-day trial.
Another witness reported Osborne saying, “I’ve done my job, you can kill me now.”
Osborne, of Cardiff, Wales, had pleaded not guilty. He claimed a man named Dave was driving the van when it struck the crowd. Prosecutors argued that Dave did not exist, and no witnesses or video evidence were produced to indicate a second person in the van.
Prosecutors said Osborne was radicalized over just a few weeks, in part through online far-right propaganda. Searches for prominent extreme-right figures — including English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson and Britain First leader Paul Golding — were found on his computer.
In this undated image provided by London’s Metropolitan Police, showing Darren Osborne, 48, following his arrest after a vehicle struck pedestrians near a mosque in north London. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighborhood.
Osborne’s partner, Sarah Andrews, told prosecutors he had become “brainwashed” and was a “ticking time bomb.”
Prosecutors said they classified the crime as terrorism because Osborne acted to advance a political purpose.
A note found in the van and Osborne’s comments to police mentioned a case in which a group of Muslim men were convicted of sexually exploiting women and girls in England, as well as the deadly Manchester Arena and London Bridge attacks carried out by Islamic radicals just weeks earlier.
Commander Dean Haydon, a senior counterterrorism officer with London’s Metropolitan Police, said the case showed how “individuals can become radicalized really, really quickly” online.
“To be honest, some individuals could look at material today and decide to go and do an attack later on this evening,” Haydon said.
Although he denied the murder charges, Osborne did not hide his aim to kill.
In this file photo dated Monday, June 19, 2017, police officers secure the area near Finsbury Park station after a vehicle struck pedestrians near a mosque in north London. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighborhood.
Giving evidence, he said he drove to London hoping to attack a pro-Palestinian march where his intended victims would have included Jeremy Corbyn, the left-wing leader of Britain’s opposition Labour Party.
When he could not reach the march because roads were closed, Osborne went looking for a mosque instead.
Sue Hemming, head of counterterrorism at the Crown Prosecution Service, said Osborne “planned and carried out this attack because of his hatred of Muslims.”
“We have been clear throughout that this was a terrorist attack, and he must now face the consequences of his actions,” Hemming said.
Suspect in London van attack on Muslims ’ticking time bomb’
Harun Khan, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, welcomed the verdict but said “we cannot be complacent and regard this as a one-off terrorist incident.” He said Islamophobia was “not only prevalent in far-right circles, but also made acceptable in our mainstream.”
Most of the arrests and attacks classified as terrorism in Britain in recent years have been motivated by Islamic extremism, but police say there is a growing threat from the far right. In 2016 Labour lawmaker Jo Cox was shot and stabbed to death by an attacker with extreme right-wing views.
Cox’s widower Brendan Cox called for action to curb right-wing radicalization.
“When islamists commit acts of terror we rightly hunt down the hate preachers who inspired them,” he tweeted. “We should do the same for the far right.”
Judge Bobbie Cheema-Grubb said she would sentence Osborne on Friday.
Man who drove van into London crowd convicted of murder | Toronto Sun
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Published:
February 1, 2018
Updated:
February 1, 2018 1:17 PM EST
In this image issued by Metropolitan Police taken from a body worn video recorded following Darren Osborne's initial detention in the early hours of June 19 2017, showing Osborne in a police custody van. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city's Finsbury Park neighborhood.Metropolitan Police / AP
LONDON — A man who steeped himself in far-right, anti-Muslim ideas before driving a van into a crowd of worshippers near a north London mosque was convicted Thursday of murder and attempted murder.
A jury at London’s Woolwich Crown Court deliberated for just an hour before finding 48-year-old Darren Osborne guilty of the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighbourhood.
A 51-year-old man, Makram Ali, was killed and 15 people were injured when a rented van plowed into worshippers gathering after evening prayers during Ramadan.
Prosecutors said Osborne was motivated by extreme Islamophobia and saw Muslims as extremists or rapists in pedophile gangs.
In this file photo dated Monday, June 19, 2017, forensic officers move the van which struck pedestrians near a Mosque at Finsbury Park in north London. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighborhood.
Several men who witnessed the attack pinned Osborne to the ground until police arrived. He was heard to say “I want to kill more Muslims,” prosecutor Jonathan Rees told the jury during the 10-day trial.
Another witness reported Osborne saying, “I’ve done my job, you can kill me now.”
Osborne, of Cardiff, Wales, had pleaded not guilty. He claimed a man named Dave was driving the van when it struck the crowd. Prosecutors argued that Dave did not exist, and no witnesses or video evidence were produced to indicate a second person in the van.
Prosecutors said Osborne was radicalized over just a few weeks, in part through online far-right propaganda. Searches for prominent extreme-right figures — including English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson and Britain First leader Paul Golding — were found on his computer.
In this undated image provided by London’s Metropolitan Police, showing Darren Osborne, 48, following his arrest after a vehicle struck pedestrians near a mosque in north London. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighborhood.
Osborne’s partner, Sarah Andrews, told prosecutors he had become “brainwashed” and was a “ticking time bomb.”
Prosecutors said they classified the crime as terrorism because Osborne acted to advance a political purpose.
A note found in the van and Osborne’s comments to police mentioned a case in which a group of Muslim men were convicted of sexually exploiting women and girls in England, as well as the deadly Manchester Arena and London Bridge attacks carried out by Islamic radicals just weeks earlier.
Commander Dean Haydon, a senior counterterrorism officer with London’s Metropolitan Police, said the case showed how “individuals can become radicalized really, really quickly” online.
“To be honest, some individuals could look at material today and decide to go and do an attack later on this evening,” Haydon said.
Although he denied the murder charges, Osborne did not hide his aim to kill.
In this file photo dated Monday, June 19, 2017, police officers secure the area near Finsbury Park station after a vehicle struck pedestrians near a mosque in north London. A Crown Court on Thursday Feb. 1, 2018, found Darren Osborne guilty of murder and attempted murder in the June 2017 attack in the city’s Finsbury Park neighborhood.
Giving evidence, he said he drove to London hoping to attack a pro-Palestinian march where his intended victims would have included Jeremy Corbyn, the left-wing leader of Britain’s opposition Labour Party.
When he could not reach the march because roads were closed, Osborne went looking for a mosque instead.
Sue Hemming, head of counterterrorism at the Crown Prosecution Service, said Osborne “planned and carried out this attack because of his hatred of Muslims.”
“We have been clear throughout that this was a terrorist attack, and he must now face the consequences of his actions,” Hemming said.
Suspect in London van attack on Muslims ’ticking time bomb’
Harun Khan, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, welcomed the verdict but said “we cannot be complacent and regard this as a one-off terrorist incident.” He said Islamophobia was “not only prevalent in far-right circles, but also made acceptable in our mainstream.”
Most of the arrests and attacks classified as terrorism in Britain in recent years have been motivated by Islamic extremism, but police say there is a growing threat from the far right. In 2016 Labour lawmaker Jo Cox was shot and stabbed to death by an attacker with extreme right-wing views.
Cox’s widower Brendan Cox called for action to curb right-wing radicalization.
“When islamists commit acts of terror we rightly hunt down the hate preachers who inspired them,” he tweeted. “We should do the same for the far right.”
Judge Bobbie Cheema-Grubb said she would sentence Osborne on Friday.
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Man who drove van into London Muslim worshippers gets 40 years in prison
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In this undated image provided by London's Metropolitan Police, showing Darren Osborne, 48, following his arrest after a vehicle struck pedestrians near a mosque in north London. (Metropolitan Police via AP)
LONDON — A man who drove a van into worshippers near a London mosque, killing one man and injuring a dozen others, was sentenced Friday to at least 43 years in prison for what a judge called a crime driven by “malevolent hatred.”
Judge Bobbie Cheema-Grubb said Darren Osborne’s mind was “poisoned” by far-right ideas before the June 2017 attack targeting Muslims and that he had shown no signs of remorse.
“Your mindset became one of malevolent hatred,” the judge told the prisoner in the dock at Woolwich Crown Court. “This was a terrorist attack. You intended to kill.”
She sentenced Osborne, 48, to life with no chance of parole for 43 years, saying “the court has seen no evidence that the danger you present has lessened.”
“You attempted to kill at least a dozen people and succeeded in taking the life of a peaceful man you knew nothing about and had never met,” the judge said.
A jury convicted Osborne, of Cardiff, Wales, of murder and attempted murder Thursday for the attack in London’s Finsbury Park neighbourhood.
A 51-year-old man, Makram Ali, was killed and 12 people were injured when Osborne drove a rented van into people leaving evening prayers during Ramadan.
In this file photo dated Monday, June 19, 2017, forensic officers move the van which struck pedestrians near a Mosque at Finsbury Park in north London. (AP Photo/Frank Augstein, FILE)
The judge told Osborne that the slain man had “lived his life without enemies — until, unknowingly, he met you.”
Osborne had denied guilt and claimed another man, named Dave, was driving the van when it struck the crowd.
The judge said jurors “saw through your pathetic last-ditch attempt to deceive them by blaming someone else for your crimes.”
Prosecutors said Osborne was motivated by a hatred of Muslims and been radicalized by far-right and Islamophobic propaganda he found online.
Police were surprised by the speed of his radicalization, which began when he watched a TV docudrama about Pakistani men sexually exploiting young women in northern England. Osborne began searching racist and anti-Muslim material, and a few weeks later, on June 19, he carried out his attack.
It came weeks after the deadly Manchester Arena and London Bridge attacks carried out by Islamic radicals.
Bystanders who witnessed the van striking pedestrians caught and restrained Osborne until police arrived. In her sentencing remarks, the judge praised Mohammed Mahmoud, imam of the local mosque, for intervening to stop them from hurting him.
“This was a demonstration of true leadership,” she said, adding: “He chose to respond to evil with good.”
Ali left a wife and six children. Members of his family watched from the public gallery as the sentence was handed down.
His daughter Ruzina Akhtar said in a statement that “his life was taken in a cruel way by a very narrow-minded, heartless being.”
“But we will choose to remember our father with happier thoughts,” she said outside court. “He will never be forgotten, he will always stay in our hearts. His laughter will echo the walls of our home, his smile will be reflected in our eyes, his memories will be alive in our conversations.”
Man who drove van into London Muslim worshippers gets 40 years in prison | Toronto Sun
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Published:
February 2, 2018
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February 2, 2018 11:16 AM EST
In this undated image provided by London's Metropolitan Police, showing Darren Osborne, 48, following his arrest after a vehicle struck pedestrians near a mosque in north London. (Metropolitan Police via AP)
LONDON — A man who drove a van into worshippers near a London mosque, killing one man and injuring a dozen others, was sentenced Friday to at least 43 years in prison for what a judge called a crime driven by “malevolent hatred.”
Judge Bobbie Cheema-Grubb said Darren Osborne’s mind was “poisoned” by far-right ideas before the June 2017 attack targeting Muslims and that he had shown no signs of remorse.
“Your mindset became one of malevolent hatred,” the judge told the prisoner in the dock at Woolwich Crown Court. “This was a terrorist attack. You intended to kill.”
She sentenced Osborne, 48, to life with no chance of parole for 43 years, saying “the court has seen no evidence that the danger you present has lessened.”
“You attempted to kill at least a dozen people and succeeded in taking the life of a peaceful man you knew nothing about and had never met,” the judge said.
A jury convicted Osborne, of Cardiff, Wales, of murder and attempted murder Thursday for the attack in London’s Finsbury Park neighbourhood.
A 51-year-old man, Makram Ali, was killed and 12 people were injured when Osborne drove a rented van into people leaving evening prayers during Ramadan.
In this file photo dated Monday, June 19, 2017, forensic officers move the van which struck pedestrians near a Mosque at Finsbury Park in north London. (AP Photo/Frank Augstein, FILE)
The judge told Osborne that the slain man had “lived his life without enemies — until, unknowingly, he met you.”
Osborne had denied guilt and claimed another man, named Dave, was driving the van when it struck the crowd.
The judge said jurors “saw through your pathetic last-ditch attempt to deceive them by blaming someone else for your crimes.”
Prosecutors said Osborne was motivated by a hatred of Muslims and been radicalized by far-right and Islamophobic propaganda he found online.
Police were surprised by the speed of his radicalization, which began when he watched a TV docudrama about Pakistani men sexually exploiting young women in northern England. Osborne began searching racist and anti-Muslim material, and a few weeks later, on June 19, he carried out his attack.
It came weeks after the deadly Manchester Arena and London Bridge attacks carried out by Islamic radicals.
Bystanders who witnessed the van striking pedestrians caught and restrained Osborne until police arrived. In her sentencing remarks, the judge praised Mohammed Mahmoud, imam of the local mosque, for intervening to stop them from hurting him.
“This was a demonstration of true leadership,” she said, adding: “He chose to respond to evil with good.”
Ali left a wife and six children. Members of his family watched from the public gallery as the sentence was handed down.
His daughter Ruzina Akhtar said in a statement that “his life was taken in a cruel way by a very narrow-minded, heartless being.”
“But we will choose to remember our father with happier thoughts,” she said outside court. “He will never be forgotten, he will always stay in our hearts. His laughter will echo the walls of our home, his smile will be reflected in our eyes, his memories will be alive in our conversations.”
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