McCain's Vice President

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Um, well, I'm gonna have to side a tad with Colpy on this one. I believe what he is getting at is we still allow end term child abortion which could be done in the ninth month.
 

talloola

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Um, well, I'm gonna have to side a tad with Colpy on this one. I believe what he is getting at is we still allow end term child abortion which could be done in the ninth month.
Are you kidding? Give me an example, that you know of, where this happened, I don't
believe it. No woman would make a decision to have an abortion in the ninth month,
how absurd, it would be a medical decision to deliver the baby for the sake of the mother, the baby doesn't have to be aborted.
The only time I can imagine this happening is if the baby is found to have some sort of
serious illness, or mental retardation, and they would have found that out earlier
than the ninth month.
 

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Um, well, I'm gonna have to side a tad with Colpy on this one. I believe what he is getting at is we still allow end term child abortion which could be done in the ninth month.

Technically, true."Third-trimester abortions are not generally available. For instance, in Quebec, there is currently no doctor who will perform a third-term abortion unless the health of the woman is in great peril or there is a genetic disorder. Currently the province sends women who seek to have third-term abortions performed to the United States. Quebec is currently actively looking to hire a doctor to do third-term abortions, but has not been successful as of October 2004."
 

Colpy

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No federal or international experience.

Hmmm, I thought that would be a hindrance. No wait - she's a Republican. Therefore, it's OK.

;)

No, but she's a quick learner.....and she'll have time to learn. She'll only be VP.

Oh so partisan of you, BTW :)

McCain really was thinking outside the box on this one, and he has chosen not only a woman, but a maverick.

Strange, Obama is supposedly the candidate of change, but all I see from him is same-old same-old.......except for the colour of his skin......
 

darkbeaver

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No, but she's a quick learner.....and she'll have time to learn. She'll only be VP.

Oh so partisan of you, BTW :)

McCain really was thinking outside the box on this one, and he has chosen not only a woman, but a maverick.

Strange, Obama is supposedly the candidate of change, but all I see from him is same-old same-old.......except for the colour of his skin......

I reckon old burn em up don't have much outside of the box time left, he's a decrepid old fraud.
 

darkbeaver

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I don't agree with you, I think she is seeing her responsibilities through to the end,
and I think she is a good secretary of state, and has much respect around the world,
she far outclasses her president, and he should bow and scrape to her, as without
her he still wouldn't know where half the places in the world are, she was very
schooled in foreign affairs when she came to the white house, and I don't think she
is a quitter. I know Colin Powell quit, but he was humiliated when he made that speech
re: wmds, so he couldn't recover from that, and I don't blame him for leaving, just wish
he would resurface with the dems.

Are you talking about Condasleeza Rice the one that works for the government, you can't be that bag of misery has zero respect in the world zero!zip! I hope Powell resurfaces somewhere he can be arrested and hanged. He lied through his teeth Talloola, I was led to believe that you had better taste than that.
 

Kreskin

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Um, well, I'm gonna have to side a tad with Colpy on this one. I believe what he is getting at is we still allow end term child abortion which could be done in the ninth month.
If anyone can show me an example of anyone electing late term abortion as a matter of birth control, please present the case. If you want to end it for reason's of birth control that is simply a political motive because in reality it doesn't exist. Don't be fooled by the politics of the evangelical pro-life right, like the Republican candidates have been. I'm convinced though that the candidates are smatter than that but they are good at bogus fearmongering politics.
 
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talloola

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Are you talking about Condasleeza Rice the one that works for the government, you can't be that bag of misery has zero respect in the world zero!zip! I hope Powell resurfaces somewhere he can be arrested and hanged. He lied through his teeth Talloola, I was led to believe that you had better taste than that.

When Colin Powell gave that speech about wmds, there was a guy sitting directly behind, and he was a key part of the intelligence, and Colin Powell had 'grilled' him in depth, as
he was doubtfull and hesitant to give that speech, so, when the dust fell, Colin Powell
made him sit directly behind him, and told him, if the contents of the speech is not
correct, "I want you sitting in full view, with me as I am trusting you with this information", then he went ahead and gave the speech, and the rest is history.
He was humiliated and embarrassed, and disgusted with his own government.

And, yes, I do like and respect Condoleeza Rice, and I don't believe that she has zero
respect in the world.

Colin Powell did not fit into that cabinet, he was at odds with the government all the
time, hence, his leaving.
And, in the future, when Condoleeza Rice writes her 'book', which I'm sure she will, I
will eat my shirt if she doesn't spill everything she is thinking right now, but continues
to do her job.
She doesn't agree with Bush, mark my words, that will come out later.
 

talloola

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No, but she's a quick learner.....and she'll have time to learn. She'll only be VP.

Theres not much to learn in foreign affairs for the republicans, they don't consult
anyone, they make rash decisions according to their own whims.



McCain really was thinking outside the box on this one, and he has chosen not only a woman, but a maverick.

McCain doesn't even know her, this was decided as a group, for future use, she will
be ready to run against Hilliary, should Obama lose, and she will be ready to run against
Obama, in the next election, should he win.
McCain will be all done after one term, should he win.



n.Strange, Obama is supposedly the candidate of change, but all I see from him is same-old same-old.......except for the colour of his skin......
You haven't been paying attention then, or choose not to.
 

Colpy

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You haven't been paying attention then, or choose not to.

Exactly what has Obama said specifically that has not long been a plank in the Democratic Party's philosophy?

Let me help you out there:

nada, nil, nothing, SFA.......

All hat, no cattle.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, just that he talks change so much, and is just the same.....
 

Curiosity

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Finally the press is sorting out Palin's scattered background.

The MSM were taken off guard and it was well into dinner hour yesterday before Keith Olbermann of MSNBC was able to find some tripe to start up about Palin - a personal family legal issue - so it has started. Anyway this puts her short experience in some kind of order for anyone interested:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/30palin.html?hp

The thing I like best about her is she challenged a system of fraud being enacted within her own party at the State Level and made it public. Now that takes confidence and willingness to cross party lines if something needs fixing. Not enough people in public office would take that chance.

I like Palin - because she is a woman who doesn't seem to feel the need to suck up to partisan politics, has a good mind and is willing to speak it, has strong values in her personal life and isn't larded over by Washington D.C. "ways".
 

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You know what I like about the Palin choice? While there is both good and bad as there would be with any candidate, in a day I was able to get a much better sense of where she stands on issues, etc, her style of governing than I have in regards to Obama and he's been in the limelight for what 2 years now? I may not agree with all she stands for but at least she clearly stands strong on her issues.

I find it laughable that the Obama people dare to comment on her being untested and inexperienced when she would be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Are they serious? No really. She's worked in public life and built her career since the 90s, mayor, governor, she has much more experience than Obama. Who has been a Senator for what 3 years? And for two of those he has been running for President. And should Obama win we don't have to wait for someone to die for him to be President. He would be president.

Obama was presented in the beginning as being 'every American'. I believe his campaign that proved quite the opposite, he is not. He is clearly disconnected from the small town, blue collar people who are the backbone of America. then again in all fairness most politicians are. Palin though appears to be the poster child for 'every American'.

It was an interesting choice to say the least.
 

Curiosity

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I have heard about Condi Rice...

She wants to finish up her stint in politics and hopefully find a spot in the NFL in some kind of executive slot.

She has a first love of football over academics and politics and that gal can choose anything of interest to do in her life and she'll do it superbly!
 

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Well I'm going to jump in cold here.
This choice certainly is a positive progression for the Right. I really thought they'd have another old whitey on deck.
Unfortunately my cynicism tells me that if Hillary had been nominated the Repubs would have gone with a 'black' running mate.
 

Colpy

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Well I'm going to jump in cold here.
This choice certainly is a positive progression for the Right. I really thought they'd have another old whitey on deck.
Unfortunately my cynicism tells me that if Hillary had been nominated the Repubs would have gone with a 'black' running mate.

Of course this was a "political" move, any nomination would have been political in nature, your cynicism is not misplaced.....

But this appears to be a very worthy woman, an wise choice by McCain, a signal that McCain, not Obama, is the true candidate capable of thinking outside the box.......