US in deep trouble for killing 60 children!!

Praxius

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Listen and follow this issue carefully. The US now has it's own investigators at the scene and they have a different story. In my military days I saw this happen. The government on whose soil this occurred will be invited to participate too and hopefully they will. But the final released report will no doubt completely change the whole story about what happened. Why? Because they have a long history of this practice. There are three versions of what happened. 1) from those there when it happened. 2) from those who came in later and made their own decisions about what happened. 3) the reports from the "Special Investigation Team" saying what they are told to say what happened. This isn't over yet. The word magicians haven't arrived yet to adjust the spin.

Yeah just look at what happened to Omar and the edited reports on his situation.
 

lone wolf

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I guess you should move to Nova Scotia then..... last I checked, you're allowed to say whatever you want anywhere you want, so long as it's within good intention.

Oh, and I didn't know there was a time limit for when people can become citizens of our country and still have valid input..... so you were here first, so your voice should have more influence then someone who just came here a year ago?

That's pretty arrogant. You're sure as hell ain't anymore special then any other citizen in this country, no matter how many years you have under your belt compared to the next, or the colour of your skin.

Prax ... when I want the ravings of a troll, I'll dress as a billygoat and cross a footbridge. Study up on history before you interject your nonsence. Requesting input is one thing. Demands forced upon an established system are another. Sudbury district is a long frigging way from Toronto and they who complain will never make it up north. It's cold and they've no family here.

Arrogant? I suppose that's something you'd, know well.
 
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I would have to respectfully disagree.

I have the same rights as anyone else to use my vote to change any established system I feel like.

The "established system" is itself the product of Immigrants who used their voice to change to the system that was already established when they arrived.

If we didn't like their views then we shouldn't have given them citizenship and a right to try and alter the laws to fit those views.

No one forced us to hand out citizenship like candy, and now we can live with the consequences of that. Blaming someone for acting upon their views with the powers we chose to give them is just scapegoating our own actions.
 

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Prax ... when I want the ravings of a troll, I'll dress as a billygoat and cross a footbridge. Study up on history before you interject your nonsence. Requesting input is one thing. Demands forced upon an established system are another. Sudbury district is a long frigging way from Toronto and they who complain will never make it up north. It's cold and they've no family here.

Just because I got some purple in my name doesn't mean I ain't above tearing you a new A-Hole in the B-Region for being a jerk-wad.

I couldn't give a chewed up beaver tail what the hell you want from who.... you post in a public forum, you can expect you're going to get responses, including ones you may not want.... suck it up princess, because it ain't working on me.

Secondly, I don't have to read up on any damn history to address your comment. You bickered and whined about your grand daughter not being able to say "Merry Christmas" in school..... well boo friggin whooo with a whoopty-doo on you..... you have no more rights over anybody else in dictating, advertising or otherwise, your religious beliefs within government funded organizations or resources such as schools (Seperation of Church and State) ~ If someone is going to complain about "Merry Christmas" that is within their rights, just as you have the right to complain if they wish you something in their own religion.

If you want to wish people a Merry Christmas without worrying about people possibly getting offended, goto Church.

I was referring to your comment of "Johnny-come-latelies" as if you being here first gives you some special rights over others. They came here and have the same rights as any other citizen in this country and they have every right to voice their concerns, and if they don't match your's, then too bad. That's democracy for you.

I said move to Nova Scotia, because I've read about the reports within central Canada in regards to the villianization of Christmas, trees being removed from malls, etc.... and while the talk is sorta starting here as well, it hasn't hit yet.... it was a light joke about avoiding this problem if you like, but if you can't take a joke, that's not my problem, and perhaps you're communicating in the wrong place if you want to control what others say.

Deal with it.

Arrogant? I suppose that's something you'd, know well.

With the type of people I come across daily, you bet. ;-)

Cheer up.... here's a hug.
 

Praxius

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I would have to respectfully disagree.

I have the same rights as anyone else to use my vote to change any established system I feel like.

The "established system" is itself the product of Immigrants who used their voice to change to the system that was already established when they arrived.

If we didn't like their views then we shouldn't have given them citizenship and a right to try and alter the laws to fit those views.

No one forced us to hand out citizenship like candy, and now we can live with the consequences of that. Blaming someone for acting upon their views with the powers we chose to give them is just scapegoating our own actions.

Agreed.
 

lone wolf

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Just because I got some purple in my name doesn't mean I ain't above tearing you a new A-Hole in the B-Region for being a jerk-wad.

I couldn't give a chewed up beaver tail what the hell you want from who.... you post in a public forum, you can expect you're going to get responses, including ones you may not want.... suck it up princess, because it ain't working on me.

Secondly, I don't have to read up on any damn history to address your comment. You bickered and whined about your grand daughter not being able to say "Merry Christmas" in school..... well boo friggin whooo with a whoopty-doo on you..... you have no more rights over anybody else in dictating, advertising or otherwise, your religious beliefs within government funded organizations or resources such as schools (Seperation of Church and State) ~ If someone is going to complain about "Merry Christmas" that is within their rights, just as you have the right to complain if they wish you something in their own religion.

If you want to wish people a Merry Christmas without worrying about people possibly getting offended, goto Church.

I said move to Nova Scotia, because I've read about the reports within central Canada in regards to the villianization of Christmas, trees being removed from malls, etc.... and while the talk is sorta starting here as well, it hasn't hit yet.... it was a light joke about avoiding this problem if you like, but if you can't take a joke, that's not my problem, and perhaps you're communicating in the wrong place if you want to control what others say.

Deal with it.



With the type of people I come across daily, you bet. ;-)

Cheer up.... here's a hug.

I am ignoring you. Kindly do the same
 

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Loon ... are you on drugs? I see a lot of complete and annoying silliness in your posts of late. Screw the Christian stuff and please do stop reading your garbage into my posts.

You might want to consider fanatic Islam's message too. Kill the infidels. Do some research. There's really no need for you to look so uninteligent.

Thank you

There is no such thing as fanatic Islam there is only fanatic religion and that is more or less identicle across the various lunatic traditions, in other words the individuals are interchangeable all being of the same basic agressive type. I remember when the Shaw was deposed, the American tee shirts of the day incited violence in particular they called for the nuking of Iran. That is hate from the supposed good side and that hate never stops being pushed on the youth of the western world, your claims that the Taleban hide behind women and children are unfounded and unsupportable, there origin is the western propaganda machine.
 

lone wolf

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I would have to respectfully disagree.

I have the same rights as anyone else to use my vote to change any established system I feel like.

We all have that right. It's they who don't like what exists then picket, threaten and sue - irrespective of the voting systen we know and respect.

The "established system" is itself the product of Immigrants who used their voice to change to the system that was already established when they arrived.

And that's the way it was designed to work.

If we didn't like their views then we shouldn't have given them citizenship and a right to try and alter the laws to fit those views.

I'm more inclined to believe multi culturalism is the failure.

No one forced us to hand out citizenship like candy, and now we can live with the consequences of that. Blaming someone for acting upon their views with the powers we chose to give them is just scapegoating our own actions.

When did we give them the powers to do things the way they do them in their old country? New country ... new system. Adapt or go home. What's so wrong with that?
 

lone wolf

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There is no such thing as fanatic Islam there is only fanatic religion and that is more or less identicle across the various lunatic traditions, in other words the individuals are interchangeable all being of the same basic agressive type. I remember when the Shaw was deposed, the American tee shirts of the day incited violence in particular they called for the nuking of Iran. That is hate from the supposed good side and that hate never stops being pushed on the youth of the western world, your claims that the Taleban hide behind women and children are unfounded and unsupportable, there origin is the western propaganda machine.

I think moderate people who are getting arms and feet lopped off for believing in Western ideals (wearing the buhrka a little too loose) might debate that point. Oh, there is a starting point. It doesn't all boil down to the worship of the God MONEY. That's just a more recent manifestation. Believe what you will about the human shield thing. Your view, too, is unsupportable.
 

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There is no such thing as fanatic Islam

huh?

there is only fanatic religion and that is more or less identicle across the various lunatic traditions,

Like when the Catholics drive truck bombs into buildings...or when Jews blow themselves up on busses all in the name of religion... oh wait...only Muslims do that.

in other words the individuals are interchangeable all being of the same basic agressive type.

Well then I guess we better keep killing them.

I remember when the Shaw was deposed, the American tee shirts of the day incited violence in particular they called for the nuking of Iran.

Do you thinking sacking our embassy and holding hostages had anything to do with our anger? Do you think we gave two hoots about the Shah?

That is hate from the supposed good side and that hate never stops being pushed on the youth of the western world, your claims that the Taleban hide behind women and children are unfounded and unsupportable, there origin is the western propaganda machine.

That is true of course except when they...hide behind women and children. If the US wanted to bomb villages for the sake of killing children there would be a heck of a lot more dead than 60. We gain absolutlely nothing by killing children...not a thing.
 

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huh?



Like when the Catholics drive truck bombs into buildings...or when Jews blow themselves up on busses all in the name of religion... oh wait...only Muslims do that.



Well then I guess we better keep killing them.



Do you thinking sacking our embassy and holding hostages had anything to do with our anger? Do you think we gave two hoots about the Shah?



That is true of course except when they...hide behind women and children. If the US wanted to bomb villages for the sake of killing children there would be a heck of a lot more dead than 60. We gain absolutlely nothing by killing children...not a thing.

Your scorecard is over a million bombed to death in each Afghanistan and Iraq. You put the Shah in power he was your boy in the head office. Wonder if you'll be so thickskinned when it's your villages getting snuffed?
 

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Your scorecard is over a million bombed to death in each Afghanistan and Iraq.

Why don't you make it a BILLION! A TRILLION! Why stop at one unsupported number when you can have a bigger one. I think we killed a QUADRILLION!

You put the Shah in power he was your boy in the head office.

And?


Wonder if you'll be so thickskinned when it's your villages getting snuffed?

They tried that once. Since then we've turned the MidEast on it's head. If they do it again there will be more suffereing on their part. We don't have thin skin like OTHER nations. <ahem>
 

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I am ignoring you. Kindly do the same

If you respond to me, then I will reply, so no.....

That's my right to do in a public forum. I will practice what I preach, sorry if you don't like it. Don't reply to me, and I won't respond to you, as my last post to anybody is usually all I have to say to someone, unless they wish to add something later, just as you just did.

It would be rude to ignore someone who is talking to me.

If you want me to ignore you in a thread and for me not to respond to you, you can feel free to send me a message via Private Mail towards which thread/post you would wish for me to do so, and thus, remove the ability for me to reply to you within the thread..... I mean, if it bothers you that badly. (Mind you, even then, that's not a sure fire thing that I won't respond to you after the fact, depending on the situation)

Otherwise, I am not harassing you, insulting you (Anymore then you insulting me that is) and you are talking to me publicly, therefore I am in my rights to respond back.

And sorry, you can't simply silence people whom you don't like their opinion..... that's just being closed minded & oppressive.
 

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Why don't you make it a BILLION! A TRILLION! Why stop at one unsupported number when you can have a bigger one. I think we killed a QUADRILLION!



And?




They tried that once. Since then we've turned the MidEast on it's head. If they do it again there will be more suffereing on their part. We don't have thin skin like OTHER nations. <ahem>

You just don't give an inch do you smack, good on you boy you stick to your guns and flag licking and you'll do just fine.:smile:
 

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I think moderate people who are getting arms and feet lopped off for believing in Western ideals (wearing the buhrka a little too loose) might debate that point. Oh, there is a starting point. It doesn't all boil down to the worship of the God MONEY. That's just a more recent manifestation. Believe what you will about the human shield thing. Your view, too, is unsupportable.

Worship of money was the bane of ancient Babylon it ain't new. What ****ing western ideals are you talking about, we don't have any, everything has a price and everyone is for sale. We rape we pillage and we burn the world over and we have murdered millions. The human shield thing it's right next to the incubators in Kuwait city being emptied of babies and taken back to Bhagdad.
 

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If you respond to me, then I will reply, so no.....

That's my right to do in a public forum. I will practice what I preach, sorry if you don't like it. Don't reply to me, and I won't respond to you, as my last post to anybody is usually all I have to say to someone, unless they wish to add something later, just as you just did.

It would be rude to ignore someone who is talking to me.

If you want me to ignore you in a thread and for me not to respond to you, you can feel free to send me a message via Private Mail towards which thread/post you would wish for me to do so, and thus, remove the ability for me to reply to you within the thread..... I mean, if it bothers you that badly. (Mind you, even then, that's not a sure fire thing that I won't respond to you after the fact, depending on the situation)

Otherwise, I am not harassing you, insulting you (Anymore then you insulting me that is) and you are talking to me publicly, therefore I am in my rights to respond back.

And sorry, you can't simply silence people whom you don't like their opinion..... that's just being closed minded & oppressive.

Prax... I do not care for your obnoxious and abrasivly abusive style. Though in the course of discussion, disagreement will be par for normal discourse, a mature agreement to disagree seems beyond you - but accusation, fault seeking and childish name-calling is perfectly acceptable - unless the gift is heaped back on you. I refuse to be a yes person so further discourse with you is a waste of time.
 
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Praxius

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We all have that right. It's they who don't like what exists then picket, threaten and sue - irrespective of the voting systen we know and respect.

Where is your evidence of this? Do you by chance have any examples of this?

And that's the way it was designed to work.

Exactly, so new immigrants have every right to continue to change if it they please, because immigrants past have done the same thing. If you do not like a proposal or change, then democratically fight it..... that is also your right.

I'm more inclined to believe multi culturalism is the failure.

I personally believe this type of intollerance is the failure, where we claim to be a nation of tollerance and acceptance of all walks of life, only for people with the above attitude to contradict the entire concept.... no wonder why people want to change the system.

When did we give them the powers to do things the way they do them in their old country? New country ... new system. Adapt or go home. What's so wrong with that?

They do adopt, or else they wouldn't have made it as a citizen.... .but that doesn't mean they can not change the system after they arrived.

(Sorry, I know you wanted me to ignore you, but I certainly can't allow someone to spew what I feel are ignorant views without expressing my own views..... either that or someone might think I or others actually agreed with what you said.)