The earthquakes that follow the total solar eclipse.
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The Total Solar Eclipse of 1999 August 11
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1999 Izmit, Turkey Earthquake
On August 17, 1999 (also known as the Kocaeli, Turkey, earthquake)
A strong earthquake, 7.4 on Richter scale, occurred 6 days following the total solar eclipse in Turkey.
See also in the link http://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/geology/turkey/index.php
, the picture of the town destruction, and the miraculous sparing of the old mosque and its minarette in spite of being an old building, and its long thin minarette, surrounded by the rubble round about, caused by that strong earthquake.
N.B. The spared many story building near the mosque is a "waqf" building consecrated to the account of the mosque and its requirements.
See this link also about this strong earthquake:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_%C4%B0zmit_earthquake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1999_Izmit_earthquake_Mosque.gif
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eclipse/990811/figures/figure_1.gif
http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eclipse/990811/figures/figure_2.gif
http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eclipse/990811/maps/map_4.jpg
1999 Izmit, Turkey Earthquake
On August 17, 1999 (also known as the Kocaeli, Turkey, earthquake)
A strong earthquake, 7.4 on Richter scale, occurred 6 days following the total solar eclipse in Turkey.
See also in the link http://earthquake.usgs.gov/research/geology/turkey/index.php
, the picture of the town destruction, and the miraculous sparing of the old mosque and its minarette in spite of being an old building, and its long thin minarette, surrounded by the rubble round about, caused by that strong earthquake.
N.B. The spared many story building near the mosque is a "waqf" building consecrated to the account of the mosque and its requirements.
See this link also about this strong earthquake:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_%C4%B0zmit_earthquake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1999_Izmit_earthquake_Mosque.gif
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
The Quran (and the other heavenly books) did not come essentially to teach people the scientific equations, neither to give them theories in some disciplines; but the apostles of God came to warn people of the consequences of their associating with God that resulted from their wronging each other (and by committing such wrong-doing, they deserved their misguidance and error.)
This is in the Quran 6: 48-49
This is in the Quran 6: 48-49
وَمَا نُرْسِلُ الْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلاَّ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ فَمَنْ آمَنَ وَأَصْلَحَ فَلاَ خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلاَ هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ . وَالَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِآيَاتِنَا يَمَسُّهُمُ الْعَذَابُ بِمَا كَانُواْ يَفْسُقُونَ
The explanation:
(We do not send the Envoys [: the messengers] except good tidings to bear, and warners; [so people will divide into two parties in their reaction to the apostles]:
Whoever believes and makes amends –– no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.
But those who deny Our signs –– the torment shall touch them [in the Hereafter] because of their disobedience.)
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However, because the Glorious Quran is the last revealed heavenly book, and there will be no book other than the Quran to be revealed from God; but only the interpretation of the ambiguous ayat of the Quran will come as did God promise.
Then because the Quran is the last book including the word of God: word by word and letter by letter, and there will not be any following book; therefore the Quran
>> included a large number of the ayat describing how the Doomsday will occur,
>> and the detailed description of the afterlife, Paradise and Hell,
>> even included how the discourse of the people of Paradise and Hell be.
>> [This is far more than and surpasses the rest of the heavenly books which only pointed out to such afterlife, Paradise and Hell.]
>> So the Quran described the event of the terminal days of the World,
>> and the portents of Doomsday and the incidents that precede that Doomsday.
Moreover, the Glorious Quran includes many ayat describing nature and the universe which purpose is to let man ponder on the marvels in the earth and heavens; these ayat are miraculous; because the One Who said that is God the All-Knowing, the Omniscient.
This is in the Quran 41: 53
(We do not send the Envoys [: the messengers] except good tidings to bear, and warners; [so people will divide into two parties in their reaction to the apostles]:
Whoever believes and makes amends –– no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.
But those who deny Our signs –– the torment shall touch them [in the Hereafter] because of their disobedience.)
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However, because the Glorious Quran is the last revealed heavenly book, and there will be no book other than the Quran to be revealed from God; but only the interpretation of the ambiguous ayat of the Quran will come as did God promise.
Then because the Quran is the last book including the word of God: word by word and letter by letter, and there will not be any following book; therefore the Quran
>> included a large number of the ayat describing how the Doomsday will occur,
>> and the detailed description of the afterlife, Paradise and Hell,
>> even included how the discourse of the people of Paradise and Hell be.
>> [This is far more than and surpasses the rest of the heavenly books which only pointed out to such afterlife, Paradise and Hell.]
>> So the Quran described the event of the terminal days of the World,
>> and the portents of Doomsday and the incidents that precede that Doomsday.
Moreover, the Glorious Quran includes many ayat describing nature and the universe which purpose is to let man ponder on the marvels in the earth and heavens; these ayat are miraculous; because the One Who said that is God the All-Knowing, the Omniscient.
This is in the Quran 41: 53
سَنُرِيهِمْ آيَاتِنَا فِي الْآفَاقِ وَفِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِ بِرَبِّكَ أَنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ
The explanation:
(We will show them Our portents on the horizons [of the sky], and among themselves;
until it will become manifest to them that [the Quran] is the truth.
Is it not enough that your Lord [O Mohammed] does witness all things?)
See the detailed explanation of this aya in our link:
The Repentance will not be accepted on that day
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
(We will show them Our portents on the horizons [of the sky], and among themselves;
until it will become manifest to them that [the Quran] is the truth.
Is it not enough that your Lord [O Mohammed] does witness all things?)
See the detailed explanation of this aya in our link:
The Repentance will not be accepted on that day
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
Warning: Most of government and religion want a faster, easier, way to ruling. The easier and faster ways often contain side effects such as: extra illusions, mistakes, or lost of physical parts. No religion is perfect and excess of anything results a lot of side effects.
The Quran is perfect; this is the last aya of the Quran 5: 3 revealed to Prophet Mohammed:
الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الإِسْلاَمَ دِينًا
The explanation:
(This day I have perfected your religion for you, and completed My favor to you, and chosen for you, as religion, the Islam.)
(This day I have perfected your religion for you, and completed My favor to you, and chosen for you, as religion, the Islam.)
This is way cool, just found it a few minutes ago, a slow-motion image of a lightning strike. You can see the leader feathering out through the atmosphere looking for a path to the ground, then a huge stroke going back up as soon as the path is complete.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=32603
What harm? How about wasting a lot of time thinking about what "Jesus would do", worrying about whether they'll go to the happy hunting grounds after they die, maoning prayers, etc. I say quit thinking and fussing about all that and enjoy THIS life.
Wow, two examples of solar eclipses and earthquakes in a close time period within a decade. As has been said, every week there are a number of earthquakes registering over 5. This and your other example are hardly proof of anything other than coincidence.
Very noble. Good idea that people should learn how to treat each other. But I have found one could tell people in a concise little pamphlet rather than subjecting them to large tomes of vague tales, ambiguities, and whatnot.
Well, isn't Allah wonderful. According to the links you gave, somewhere between 17,000 and 40,000 people died in that earthquake and half a million were left homeless, but Allah miraculously intervened to spare the mosque. Apparently the building is worth more than the lives of tens of thousands of people. If that's how Allah operates, I have nothing but contempt for him. I don't expect I'll ever get a chance to tell him that though, I don't believe he exists, but according to the Quran and you that's because he made me that way, and now he's going to condemn me forever for something he did to me without my knowledge or consent.
2:7 Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom.
Thanks a lot Allah, you cruel and stupid deity, I dare you to strike me down right now.
There was a man: one of the chiefs of Mecca; he said after going to the prophet and listening to the Quran: "What do you think of Mohammed?"
They said: "He is mad."
He said: "Have you seen him strangle anyone?"
They said: "He is then a poet."
He said: "Have you ever heard him say any poetry?"
They said: "Then, what; have you converted?"
He said: "No, he is a magician or sorcerer: don't you see him – with his religion – separate the son from his father and the father from his son?"
This is in the Quran 74: 11-26
They said: "He is mad."
He said: "Have you seen him strangle anyone?"
They said: "He is then a poet."
He said: "Have you ever heard him say any poetry?"
They said: "Then, what; have you converted?"
He said: "No, he is a magician or sorcerer: don't you see him – with his religion – separate the son from his father and the father from his son?"
This is in the Quran 74: 11-26
... إِنَّهُ فَكَّرَ وَقَدَّرَ ...
The explanation:
(11- O Mohammed] let me [deal] with him whom I created lonely [: I will take revenge of him.] ….
18- Indeed he reflected [on the Quran] and considered [it with wrong consideration.] ….
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21- Then he contemplated [to find some way against the Quran.]
22- Then he frowned and was gloomy[-faced.]
23- Then turned away [from believing] and was arrogant [to Our messenger.]
24- And he said: "This [Quran] is only an influential sorcery."
25- "This is nothing else than speech of mortal man." )
This also is in the Quran 53: 1-4
(11- O Mohammed] let me [deal] with him whom I created lonely [: I will take revenge of him.] ….
18- Indeed he reflected [on the Quran] and considered [it with wrong consideration.] ….
....
21- Then he contemplated [to find some way against the Quran.]
22- Then he frowned and was gloomy[-faced.]
23- Then turned away [from believing] and was arrogant [to Our messenger.]
24- And he said: "This [Quran] is only an influential sorcery."
25- "This is nothing else than speech of mortal man." )
This also is in the Quran 53: 1-4
وَالنَّجْمِ إِذَا هَوَى .مَا ضَلَّ صَاحِبُكُمْ وَمَا غَوَى .وَمَا يَنطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى.إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى
The explanation: (1- By the comet when it will fall down [upon the earth!]
2- Your comrade [Mohammed] has not misled, neither has he seduced [anyone from the way.]
3- Nor speaks he out of caprice.
4- It is not but a revelation [from God], that is being revealed [to him by Gabriel, the angel.]
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See more details about the interpretation of these ayat in the question and its answer just before our link:
A story of fainting (2)
2- Your comrade [Mohammed] has not misled, neither has he seduced [anyone from the way.]
3- Nor speaks he out of caprice.
4- It is not but a revelation [from God], that is being revealed [to him by Gabriel, the angel.]
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See more details about the interpretation of these ayat in the question and its answer just before our link:
A story of fainting (2)
- The building is never more important than the believer in God alone without any associate or equal.
The idolaters of Mecca said: "We are the custodian of the Ka'aba at Mecca: we give water to the pilgrims, and take care about the House of God; therefore we are preferred by God and certainly we shall go to Paradise in the afterlife; therefore, no need to convert and become Muslims and abandon the idols!"
God – be glorified – answered them in the Quran 9: 19
أَجَعَلْتُمْ سِقَايَةَ الْحَاجِّ وَعِمَارَةَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ كَمَنْ آمَنَ بِاللّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَجَاهَدَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ لاَ يَسْتَوُونَ عِندَ اللّهِ وَاللّهُ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ
The explanation:
(Do you [: idolaters of Mecca] consider the giving of water to pilgrims and the care about the Inviolable Mosque [at Mecca]
as the same as [the faith of] one:
>> who believes in God [alone, without any associate]
>> and the Last Day [: believes in the Doomsday]
>> and struggles [together with God's messenger] in the way of God?
Not equal are they before God;
and God guides not [to the way of the truth] the people of the wrong-doers.)
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(Do you [: idolaters of Mecca] consider the giving of water to pilgrims and the care about the Inviolable Mosque [at Mecca]
as the same as [the faith of] one:
>> who believes in God [alone, without any associate]
>> and the Last Day [: believes in the Doomsday]
>> and struggles [together with God's messenger] in the way of God?
Not equal are they before God;
and God guides not [to the way of the truth] the people of the wrong-doers.)
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- Do you know or imagine what the wrong-doing is? Do you imagine how the wrong-doer is acting?
One who wrongs you, and shows to you the death every day, torment you with various kinds of torment, beats you, abases you, robs your property, plunders your rights, oppresses you, transgresses on your family members, offends your honor, kills your sons and daughters, and you cannot repel him; because he is stronger than you.
One that takes the property of the orphan who lost his father and he may also have lost his mother, or steal the money or property from the widow that is in so difficult social situation.
One that instead of helping the poor, he increases their suffering, by way of cheating and cunning and deceiving.
How many killers that killed many men causing their sons to be orphans and their women to be widows; and they say he is a poor fellow [like Barabbas] and does not deserve the execution?
Do we know every secret, or is it God the All-Knowing Who knows everything about people, and knows who is the upright, and who is the corrupt?
Therefore, He knows better; He gives them respite, but they prefer to stay on their wrong-doing and disobedience and sins and He misleads them in order to punish them, in the World by various kinds of punishment, and in the next life with other kinds of punishment.
- Moreover, God exterminated many communities of the wrong-doers ( but not of those upright and doing righteousness); as in the Quran 10: 13
وَلَقَدْ أَهْلَكْنَا الْقُرُونَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ لَمَّا ظَلَمُواْ وَجَاءتْهُمْ رُسُلُهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَمَا كَانُواْ لِيُؤْمِنُواْ كَذَلِكَ نَجْزِي الْقَوْمَ الْمُجْرِمِينَ
The explanation:
(We destroyed the generations before you [O Arabs] when they did wrong, and their messengers came to them with the manifest [signs],
but they would not believe[and they unbelieved as have you unbelieved; so We destroyed them with the chastisement];
thus do We recompense the guilty people [among you: Muslims in the future, that We shall destroy them if they do not believe.] )
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And this aya 18: 59
(We destroyed the generations before you [O Arabs] when they did wrong, and their messengers came to them with the manifest [signs],
but they would not believe[and they unbelieved as have you unbelieved; so We destroyed them with the chastisement];
thus do We recompense the guilty people [among you: Muslims in the future, that We shall destroy them if they do not believe.] )
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And this aya 18: 59
وَتِلْكَ الْقُرَى أَهْلَكْنَاهُمْ لَمَّا ظَلَمُوا وَجَعَلْنَا لِمَهْلِكِهِم مَّوْعِدًا
The explanation:
(Such were the cities [of Aad, Thamood and other cities of the disbelievers];
We destroyed when they committed iniquities [by their denying the apostles of God];
and We fulfilled the threat concerning [the appointed time for] destroying them.)
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(Such were the cities [of Aad, Thamood and other cities of the disbelievers];
We destroyed when they committed iniquities [by their denying the apostles of God];
and We fulfilled the threat concerning [the appointed time for] destroying them.)
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- Therefore, don't surprise from their extermination; because they were wronging each other and as a result they were proud over obeying God and His messengers.
Because God is more than you and than me and everyone else concerning His mercy and kindness; but the wrong of such people exceeded the bounds.
And don't surprise, when you see the West in prosperity in spite of their blasphemy and atheism; God only give them their recompense in this World according to some of their kindness to each other and their kindness to cats and dogs (because they are civilized, other than their transgression on many peoples and nations.)
And He is giving them respite, while their punishment may be about to be imminent, unless they recognize the truth that God is One without associate or equal or son, and should desist from their transgression.
Yep. Wrongdoers are using god's words to fulfill his or her personal purpose. As a wrongdoer perform more distortion of the truth, the more distant is that god's words from the wrongdoer. I will exit completely. It turns out people decide to call Flying Red Buchanan: Flying Red Shawl. I like the new name: Flying Red Shawl.
Most of government and religion want a faster, easier, way to ruling. The easier and faster ways often contain side effects such as: extra illusions, mistakes, or lost of physical parts.
Most of government and religion want a faster, easier, way to ruling. The easier and faster ways often contain side effects such as: extra illusions, mistakes, or lost of physical parts.
It's really not your place to decide what you think god does for me, as that is my decision, for myself, and everyone else's for themselves, it is not your business.
If you think god has done something for you, fine, that is your business to think whatever you need to, for yourself.
I resent that you try to push this Koran onto us, who don't believe in such things, as though it is our duty to follow along, sorry, not interested.
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REPENT YE, SINNER!
Ye hast blasphemed in the name of a false prophet. Jesus spake: I am the way and the Truth!
...then again, so do a whole bunch of of people hoping to sell you a ticket on their train to heaven. If you're comfortable with your Quaran, cool. We all have something that makes us feel secure. Even Linus has his blankey. Religion and science are parallel tracks. When the switch gets thrown, things go bad fast.
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I don't like it much either, particularly in a science thread.
Eannassir, you got anything of substance to say that doesn't have "This is in the Quran" in it? You can't have it both ways you know. Either all things are as Allah wills, as Islam teaches, or they're not. If they are, Allah is directly responsible for all things that happen, because he makes them happen, including in particular my complete lack of belief in him and a growing contempt for what you present him as standing for. This must be as Allah wills, I had nothing to do with it, and neither did you, really, he did it to both of us. If your purpose was to proselytize for your faith, your efforts in my case at least have had an effect precisely opposite to what you intended.
On the other hand, if all things are not as Allah wills, then I'm free to be responsible for myself. I much prefer that to what I perceive as the dismal fatalism in the phrase Insha Allah. Islam it seems to me is at about the same level of intellectual and philosophical sophistication as Christianity was at the same age. Just look at 15th century Europe. Church and state were inseparable, heresy and apostasy were treated pretty severely, predestination was a commonly held view. Islam needs to grow up.
The story of this devastating earthquake in Turkey
There was a party to celebrate some military (intelligence) officers (Turkish) that have recently been retired; there was cooperation between this intelligence and the Israeli intelligence; there were some Israeli intelligence attending that party.
The celebration party included wine drinking, women, fornication and adultery; then some of the high rank generals brought the copy of the Glorious Quran; he was drunken and started to blaspheme, and tore up the Holy Book, saying: "If there is God, let Him prevent me or punish me!"
A lieutenant saw and heard that, and was afraid, and ran away fearful and excited, and was the eyewitness of this terrible incident.
Meanwhile, the earth cleft and fire came out and devoured all the attendants including the generals, the military intelligence, the Israeli intelligence, and that was the centre of this earthquake.
To indicate that this is true, remember that the Israeli pm went to Turkey immediately following the event, and some of their intelligence were declared to be missing.
There was a party to celebrate some military (intelligence) officers (Turkish) that have recently been retired; there was cooperation between this intelligence and the Israeli intelligence; there were some Israeli intelligence attending that party.
The celebration party included wine drinking, women, fornication and adultery; then some of the high rank generals brought the copy of the Glorious Quran; he was drunken and started to blaspheme, and tore up the Holy Book, saying: "If there is God, let Him prevent me or punish me!"
A lieutenant saw and heard that, and was afraid, and ran away fearful and excited, and was the eyewitness of this terrible incident.
Meanwhile, the earth cleft and fire came out and devoured all the attendants including the generals, the military intelligence, the Israeli intelligence, and that was the centre of this earthquake.
To indicate that this is true, remember that the Israeli pm went to Turkey immediately following the event, and some of their intelligence were declared to be missing.