Try him in Canada? F'rget it! Young Offender thing (or whatever it's softened into) would just talk about slapping his wrists and it would be all over because he's 18.
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No Respect for Khadr
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"earth_as_one"....What would you like to see done with respect to Omar Khadr? I offered a
solution which you disagree with. Fine. I wanted to get the conversation rolling and that
happened. Are you willing to offer up a different a solution?
solution which you disagree with. Fine. I wanted to get the conversation rolling and that
happened. Are you willing to offer up a different a solution?
Thank you, earth-as-one, for your powerful post. As gruesome and revolting as those photos are they serve as a wake-up reminder for how cruel and backwards our Western Christian society still is.
I heard an interview on the radio with Omar's sister - apparently he was in Afghanistan doing "charity work." If that's their definition of "charity" then he deserves to be where he is and the entire family should be deported back to where they came from - period!!
While it is extremely important for the Canadian Gov't to ensure the rights of their citizens outside the country are protected, it is also the RESPONSIBILITY of Canadians going outside the country to respect the laws of the countries they are visiting.
In Omar's case he was in a war zone - we can't protect him from his own beliefs or decisions. I agree with Harper in this case.
While it is extremely important for the Canadian Gov't to ensure the rights of their citizens outside the country are protected, it is also the RESPONSIBILITY of Canadians going outside the country to respect the laws of the countries they are visiting.
In Omar's case he was in a war zone - we can't protect him from his own beliefs or decisions. I agree with Harper in this case.
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You are an idiot. Sexual humiliation is bad,no doubt about that,but if you want to see cruel and backwards ,I suggest that you google beheadings and stonings. We are 'backwards',compared to who,your islamic buddies who cut the head off a soldier,bound his body,set it on fire and then dragged it behind a truck in front of cheering muslims. You should be ashamed of yourself. Islam is a male-controlled death cult that only appeals to people who cannot achieve respect except by being born with the right chromosone. Why don't you grab a brain or a plane ticket? Islamic countries,which you so admire,would kill you in a second for disagreeing with the religion. Aren't you glad you live in the west ,you f'en weenie.
No,but you remember when she fell asleep in the field?...The tin man had a can of lube and.......
...the lion didn't have the ba ... er courage and munchkin land just sorta cheered you on, huh?
Munchkin land!!!!!!!!!! If you ever are really bored,with nothing to do,find a copy of the movie'Under the Rainbow'. It is one of those movies 'based on fact'. When the 'Wizard of Oz' was made they needed a whole s..tload of small people and recruited them from across the country. Back in 1938 people did not travel much,so what happened was that about 300 midgets got together and stayed at the same hotel. Many of these people had never seen another midget themselves and came from areas where they were oddities. According to the movie and other accounts,they were ecstatic and very erotic. I know this is off-topic,but the subject doesn't come up very often. Cheers.
OK...some of our allies can be a pack of douche-bags. Nobodies arguing that point. I'm
sure some bright person (with access to Google) can match the pictures on this thread, pic
for pic, with pictures of Fundamental Extremists lopping off hands and feet and heads and all
kinds of revolting and grisly stuff.
Going back to Omar Khadr, what's the answer?
sure some bright person (with access to Google) can match the pictures on this thread, pic
for pic, with pictures of Fundamental Extremists lopping off hands and feet and heads and all
kinds of revolting and grisly stuff.
Going back to Omar Khadr, what's the answer?
Pay him 10 million? Seriously, what is wrong with you?
You are detached from reality, lady.
Wow...OK...by the definition of "High Treason" according to the Canadian Criminal Code,
Omar Khadr is Guilty at hell. If...If he didn't throw the grenade that killed one soldier and
blinded another, he's sure as sh*t involved. The Americans are still our allies whether you
like them or not, and the fact that Omar and his buddies where involved in a fire fight with
American Forces and not Canadian Forces really is irrelevant to the definition of Treason
and High Treason. So we should give him 10 Million dollars and set him free? Wow...
Why don't we just buy him a plane ticket back to Afghanistan, and donate most of the Ten
Million directly to the Taliban, and give Omar an F350 full of explosives to drive through the
next Canadian road block? I meant, what is a realistic answer with respect to Omar Khadr?
Let me put this in some perspective. I have dogs. I'm a good person or at least I like to think
that I am. Michael Vic also had dogs. Michael Vic is a douche-bag. His dogs didn't choose to
be indoctrinated as fighting dogs but they where. When Michael Vic was arrested, his dogs
where seized (incarcerated) until the powers that be could figure out what to do with them.
How many of Michael Vic's dogs do you want to adopt into your own home? Too late. I believe
they've been euthanized for the public good.
Omar Khadr is Guilty at hell. If...If he didn't throw the grenade that killed one soldier and
blinded another, he's sure as sh*t involved. The Americans are still our allies whether you
like them or not, and the fact that Omar and his buddies where involved in a fire fight with
American Forces and not Canadian Forces really is irrelevant to the definition of Treason
and High Treason. So we should give him 10 Million dollars and set him free? Wow...
Why don't we just buy him a plane ticket back to Afghanistan, and donate most of the Ten
Million directly to the Taliban, and give Omar an F350 full of explosives to drive through the
next Canadian road block? I meant, what is a realistic answer with respect to Omar Khadr?
Let me put this in some perspective. I have dogs. I'm a good person or at least I like to think
that I am. Michael Vic also had dogs. Michael Vic is a douche-bag. His dogs didn't choose to
be indoctrinated as fighting dogs but they where. When Michael Vic was arrested, his dogs
where seized (incarcerated) until the powers that be could figure out what to do with them.
How many of Michael Vic's dogs do you want to adopt into your own home? Too late. I believe
they've been euthanized for the public good.
Ron, have you considered the war crimes the US has committed by violating the rules of the Geneva Convention? How come we all keep quiet about that? Imprisoning, torturing and holding a child responsible for being involved in a war conflict are war crimes, crimes against humanity!!! We cry about the kid soldiers in Africa, but make exceptions for our own kids.
Unless Harper annulls Omar's Canadian Citizenship, Omar is legally still a Canadian child, regardless of his parents' political orientation. By association with the Americans Canada shares the crimes committed against Omar, because we are neither protesting nor aiding Omar. We are abandoning one of our child citizens to a brutal and ruthless regime that does not adhere to the agreed upon rules of the Geneva Convention, but rather makes up its own rules to suit their own fancies. On top of that, Cowards that they are, they created their own "laws" to make themselves immune to war crimes procecutions. They flatly deny the World Court in The Hague its legitimacy! Americans can never be tried or held responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Only the little fish get dragged there! The world has two sets of laws, one for the Americans and one for the rest of us. A fine ally we have picked!!!
Omar has suffered enough!! He should not be judged and convicted to more years in that rotten place, Guantanamo, nor any other jail elsewhere. He is being crucified because of his parents. That is totally unfair! What his parents did is irrellevant and should be dealt with separately. Let's not make him the scapegoat and take the punishment.
Harper would get far more political miles out of Omar, if he would show to have compassion and understanding for him. He could raise his popularity amongst Canadians and in the world instead of contempt and disgust.
Along with Harper, many of this forum's participants are racists, full of hate against the Muslims. With their little chicken brains they cannot see that they are erecting a division amongst our own people in this country. Whether their grandfathers came here many years ago, or some of us arrived 50 or less years ago, like myself, we are all equal Canadians, provided we took up Canadian Citizenship.
Sorry, Ron, if you like to compare Omar with a vicious dog you have lost me as a fan!
Omar is a broken, destroyed soul. He will never recover from 6 years spent in that American hell hole.
Loon, Omar is not being "crucified" because of his parents actions, he is being judged for his own.
You are pretty brave calling about 60% of Canadian citizens racists because they don't share your warped view of the issue. You live up to your "loon" moniker let me tell you.
You are pretty brave calling about 60% of Canadian citizens racists because they don't share your warped view of the issue. You live up to your "loon" moniker let me tell you.
Exactly. As such, Omar deserves no special consideration. He betrayed his fellow Canadians. End of story.
If you feel it's more just to send him to a re-education program or Juvy hall or whatever due to his youth, I can live with that. He's still a traitor.
Surely you don't believe that once he's re-united with his family he's going to become a loyal flag-waving Canadian. The boy is a danger to society. You know what happens to criminals deemed a danger to society.
Betcha ten bucks if he's released to Canada he's on his way to Pakistan next chance he gets, to join his Taliban fellows and defend his "home". Clue: not Canada.
Just the facts;
you are just as guilty as I am projecting Omar's future as to what he will do. That is nonsense! We do not know exactly what state of mind he is in. My choice is to believe in his innocence! The last six years of his life will have made a tremendous impact on his mind. To assume he will be going back to Afghanistan and fight against the American alliance is only trying to satisfy your contempt for him and his fellow Muslims.
What have the Taliban done to you, JtF? Canada is fighting under the American flag! We are in Afghanistan by choice to please our ally to the south. But, we are callous enough (?) is that the right word?, to pretend we are there for humanitarian reasons, to free the poor, helpless and backward Afghan population from the brutal rule of the Taliban.
Why aren't we in Zimbabwe, just one example, as well?
Can you give me the answer WHY we are fighting and killing people in Afghanistan? I want your honest answer, please.
And get it finally into your stubborn head: Omar was a child! He was a victim of his parents ideology! Please, separate him from them! He is not a traitor nor a criminal.... he was a child under the influence of grown-ups.
Should he choose to leave Canada it would likely be for the safety of his life. The vicious racist dogs Ron was mentioning will come after him. If CC is a barometer for the feelings in this country about Omar and the Taliban in general, then he will not be safe in Canada anymore.
you are just as guilty as I am projecting Omar's future as to what he will do. That is nonsense! We do not know exactly what state of mind he is in. My choice is to believe in his innocence! The last six years of his life will have made a tremendous impact on his mind. To assume he will be going back to Afghanistan and fight against the American alliance is only trying to satisfy your contempt for him and his fellow Muslims.
What have the Taliban done to you, JtF? Canada is fighting under the American flag! We are in Afghanistan by choice to please our ally to the south. But, we are callous enough (?) is that the right word?, to pretend we are there for humanitarian reasons, to free the poor, helpless and backward Afghan population from the brutal rule of the Taliban.
Why aren't we in Zimbabwe, just one example, as well?
Can you give me the answer WHY we are fighting and killing people in Afghanistan? I want your honest answer, please.
And get it finally into your stubborn head: Omar was a child! He was a victim of his parents ideology! Please, separate him from them! He is not a traitor nor a criminal.... he was a child under the influence of grown-ups.
Should he choose to leave Canada it would likely be for the safety of his life. The vicious racist dogs Ron was mentioning will come after him. If CC is a barometer for the feelings in this country about Omar and the Taliban in general, then he will not be safe in Canada anymore.