Our Glorious Afghan Mission

darkbeaver

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Thank you, DB, for an interesting and thought-provoking article.

You are certainly welcome. In the main we are all human, no nation is immune to the good the bad or the ugly eh. As I was saying elsewhere history as it was presented to me in highschool was heavily skewed toward the victors, this was not education but propaganda at the national level. That propaganda continues today everyday through every medium. We all have poor knowledge of what is actually what and it takes a lot of reading from as many perspectives as possible to attempt correction. It is my firm belief that wealth and power have conspired to keep us ignorant. I share that belief with more and more people as time goes on but time is running out and the course of human events seems inevitably to lead to unavoidable widescale war.
 

darkbeaver

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Oh No! I rely so much on google for any information.I'm glad to hear you say that.Looking on the bright side, it is a constant rejuvenation!!;-)No, I don't burden myself with the markets... too confusing for me.That is a sad fact! There is no reason to raise those prices!! All shenanigans!You really think so? I guess pretty much everybody has enough weapons piled up, so now is the time to use them. Are you thinking of the Iran war? In that case Russia will get involved!! I hope the Americans/Israelis know that!!

Control of the middle east oil is a strategic imperative for the IsraeliAmerican hydra, the American economy is a shambles, rationally they must exercise full spectrum domination or they lose superpower status and slip many levels backward economically and culturally this also spells the end for the Zionist experiment. Of the planets nations these two are most likely to execute thier nuclear options, both are long schooled in deciet and corrupt beyond salvage, thier backs are against the wall, rats in that position are very vicious, very vicious rats are worse still.

The Bank of Canada isn't public nor is it Canadianhttp://www.comer.org/
 

MikeyDB

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No Colpy...sorry.

You can't "win" some contest that doesn't exist. How can you tell the difference between the Milwaukee Brewers and the New York Mets? Uniforms right...?

And don't all the militaries of the world wear camouflage?

Doesn't the ship that's carrying aid relief and medicine to third-world nations look exactly like the ship carrying containers full of cheap-goods back and forth between the wealthy and the poor?

Please tell me where "terrorism" begins and provide and illustration of the uniform we should look for....

Would it be the uniform of the KKK? Would it be the uniform of the IRA....would it be the uniform of Wall Street?

Terrorism exists because we want it to exist. We don't want to experience first-hand what terrorism is...but it's OK if many many many other people in distant lands suffer the ourtrage of our double-talk.
 

Colpy

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No Colpy...sorry.

You can't "win" some contest that doesn't exist. How can you tell the difference between the Milwaukee Brewers and the New York Mets? Uniforms right...?

And don't all the militaries of the world wear camouflage?

Doesn't the ship that's carrying aid relief and medicine to third-world nations look exactly like the ship carrying containers full of cheap-goods back and forth between the wealthy and the poor?

Please tell me where "terrorism" begins and provide and illustration of the uniform we should look for....

Would it be the uniform of the KKK? Would it be the uniform of the IRA....would it be the uniform of Wall Street?

Terrorism exists because we want it to exist. We don't want to experience first-hand what terrorism is...but it's OK if many many many other people in distant lands suffer the ourtrage of our double-talk.

Mikey, feed that load of crap to the thousands of dead of 9-11, the British transit bombings, the Spanish train bombings.........

I mean that in the nicest possible way.
 

L Gilbert

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huh? Israeli security looking after British transit, looking after Spanish railroads, etc.? hehehehehhe Perhaps that is why the little group of security people in the Nelson mall don't speak English very well .......... they are actually Israelis. And here I thought they were just a wee bit on the slow side.
 

dancing-loon

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Just this morning I read a remark from Bush that the war in Afghanistan is going poorly, and it will likely get worse. Apparently Bush has asked China and India to send troops.

A German NATO General is suggesting that at least another 6000 troops are needed, in addition to the 60 000 foreign troops already in the country!

Now the Russians have decided to help!!

Russia joins the war in Afghanistan

By M K Bhadrakumar

Moscow is staging an extraordinary comeback on the Afghan chessboard after a gap of two decades following the Soviet Union's nine-year adventure that ended in the withdrawal of its last troops from Afghanistan 1989.
In a curious reversal of history, this is possible only with the acquiescence of the United States. Moscow is taking advantage of the deterioration of the war in Afghanistan and the implications for regional security could be far-reaching.

A joint statement issued in Moscow over the weekend following the meeting of the United States-Russia Working Group on Counterterrorism (CTWG) revealed that the two sides had reached "agreement in principle over the supply of Russian weaponry to the Afghanistan National Army" in its fight against the Taliban insurgency. The 16th session of the CTWG held in Moscow onJune 19-20 was co-chaired by Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Kislyak and US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs William Burns.

Interesting read! Don't miss it:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JF25Ag01.html
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What's in it for Russia that they have forgiven the Americans for helping them lose the war there 20 years ago?
 

CDNBear

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This will only make it worse. The Afghans hold a special place in their collective hearts for the Russians, and it isn't friendly or warming.
 

Stretch

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Stretch

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Mikey, feed that load of crap to the thousands of dead of 9-11, the British transit bombings, the Spanish train bombings.........

I mean that in the nicest possible way.

colpy, how were the british transit bombings carried out?
 

scratch

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colpy, how were the british transit bombings carried out?

In My Personal Humble Opinion / Without Prejudice / With All Due Respect

Believe nothing of what you read, half of what you hear and all of what you see.
In other words, simply put: Don't be so gullible.
 

TehranTim

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The NATO presence in Afghanistan is essential, take it from someone who's been to Afghanistan. The Afghans are our neighbors. Prior to 1979 they were a normal developing nation. But the havoc that's been wreaked upon the country following the Soviet invasion and the Arab presence in Afghanistan has totally crippled the country almost beyond repair. A NATO presence is necessary to ensure that the Taliban don't regain power.
 

TehranTim

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NATO will destroy the rest of Afghanistan just before they launch an attack on Iran.
It's not possible to destroy Afghanistan any further. When the Reagan administration gathered the most crazed fanatics in the world and dumped them in Afghanistan the country collapsed. Prior to 79 it was a normal country, then it was reduced to dust. I remember when the Taliban wanted to put pants on donkeys. There countries infrastructure was destroyed. The Soviet Union and the United States are responsible for whats happened to the Afghan people in the past 30 years, and the US is at least in principle trying to live up to its great moral obligation to the Afghan people.