Is Canada anti-Muslim?

Risus

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Wouldn't it be more fitting to have a sweet grass ceremony? Canada and it's provinces were founded on Christian values - at the expense of First People. Muslim? Shouldn't Chinese have a say before that if we're going to water it down into some undecognizable mix?

I think the proposal is to have the Lord's Prayer and one of either Muslim, Hindu, etc etc on alternating days
 

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Uhm...no they don't. Iraq and Afghanistan are all big and important to us, but in the grand scheme of conflicts being waged they aren't important. With most conflict its Asians and Africans and Arabs. I wouldn't say its per say about religion (thats just a factor involved as an excuse).

Its about greed and wealth and desire for power, something found in ALL human societies (not just "white" people). Countries with less wealth to lose in the destruction are simply more willing to risk what they have for more. European countries involved in war ("white" countries) are all surprise surprise, the poorest ones.

I mean Zzarchov are you telling me that white NATO, coalition, 700 bases planet wide are not manned by white people from christian countries. I wouldn't say it's about religion either but you must agree that religion has been introduced to the mix what. The lust for power is found in all humans those that have the best weapons and the least morals wind up on top and like it there, that's basic ain't it? We're talking about now not some time in the past or the alleged future, try and stay contrmporary will you.:lol:
 

darkbeaver

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VOICES OF EVIL

June 26, 2008 at 9:02 am (Associate Post, Corrupt Politics, Islamophobia, Israel, Palestine)



Voices of Evil


By Khalid Amayreh in the West Bank
Every honest Jew who knows the history of his people cannot but feel a deep sense of gratitude to Islam, which has protected the Jews for fifty generations, while the Christian world persecuted the Jews and tried many times “by the sword” to get them to abandon their faith.
Uri Avnery, Israeli writer and journalist
Benyamin Netanyahu and Daniel Pipes are two classical examples reflecting the brutal ugliness of Jewish Islamophobia.
The former has been moving stridently toward full-fledged Zionist fascism while the latter is unabashedly calling for an all-out crusade by the US and Europe against the Muslim world, of course on Israel’s behalf.
Let us start with Netanyahu, a racist, pathological liar by every shred of imagination. This week, Netanyahu had the temerity to claim that the Nazi-like Israeli occupation of Palestine was not the real root cause besetting the Middle East, and that the real source of trouble was “radical Islam.”
In characteristic Zionist ingratitude, Netanyahu utterly ignored the fact that it was Muslims in North Africa and the Middle East who protected Jews during the holocaust.
Similarly, he overlooked the fact that Jews reached their golden age under Muslim rule in southern Spain.
Netanyahu is not an ignoramus; he is rather an addicted willful liar and hatemonger, and his constant vilification of Islam is designed first and foremost to divert world attention from the genocidal ethnic cleansing Israel has been carrying out against the Palestinian people.
His red-herring tactic may succeed in deceiving some people in the West, especially those readily exposed to Zionist-controlled media.
However, with the advent of the internet and other forms of independent media, the Israeli “magic” is losing its effect as more and more people in North America and Europe are discovering the truth about this criminal entity.
Netanyahu often portrays Israel as representing western civilization and ideals in an area dominated by Islam.
Howe
 

dancing-loon

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Hell, they are proposing having muslim prayer in the Ontario Legislature. What makes you think we are anti-muslim???
Hey, little One; I didn't say you are anti-Muslim, I am wondering, if our government for one, and the people for two are biased against Muslims.
So, may I ask, are you?

Just now I saw this piece of news:
CSIS was wrong to destroy Charkaoui evidence: SCC

A Montreal man accused of having links to terrorists won a victory on Thursday, with a Supreme Court ruling that CSIS was wrong to destroy evidence against him.
Adil Charkaoui's right to a fair trial was violated by the spy agency's decision to destroy two interviews with Charkaoui from 2002, said CTV's Rosemary Thompson, reporting from outside the court.
Content from the interviews was used by CSIS to obtain a security certificate that would allow Charkaoui's deportation.
http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/CSI...=abc&date=True
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Looks like the RCMP (Arar) and now CSIS are obsessed with wanting to catch a terrorist!!
 

lone wolf

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Case construction and fabricated fact are common tricks of the legal system. It's called custom fit framework. Destruction of evidence is another favoured trick of laws enforcers. It's the hallmark of folks with something to hide.
 

dancing-loon

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Actually, if you go back, the original offer by the magazine was to post a factual rebuttal by the Islamic groups..
Do you have a link for that? All I know is that they bluntly refused to publish an answer from the Muslims.
 

dancing-loon

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Nicely put. Muslims are fully entitled to vocally and publicly disagree with Steyn, and put whatever case they think they have against his remarks.
I agree with that... makes sense, is fair.
But suppressing him is not on, or certainly shouldn't be.
Apparently the Muslims feel he was promoting hate against them, and that is against the law, as far as I know.

Certain people were arrested for writing stuff about the Jews and the holocaust, which is forbidden, because it is anti-semitic, it insults the Jews. So, why are you denying the Muslims equal status and protection?

I have to say that I have not read Mark Steyn's offending remarks about the Muslims, I rely on the testimony of the two Muslim Elders.
 

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is there an anti-Muslim attitude in the ranks of our government, and in the Canadian public as well?

If there isn't there should be. The religion is a vile sickness and I do not want it spreading here to Canada. The remedy is of coarse free speech where people can point out and dissect the religions horrid nature. The worst thing possible then is to enact laws prohibiting such discussions as "hatred." There is a point where being too liberal can become dangerous. Some things shouldn't be accepted. Violent religions full of hatred is one IMO.

It isn't hatred to say a religion is a vile illness. Christianity is one too. So we have checks and balances such as the seperation of church and state. My statement does not reflect on the religions adherents except to say they are infected. If I say smallpox is a vile illness am I saying the people infected with smallpox are vile? No, I certainly am not. So too when I say the Muslims and Christians and any other religion is an illness I do not mean any harm to the infected. It is not anyones fault they are ill. Typically the sickness is caught at a very young age anyway, before culpability is a factor.

Yes, lets keep Canada as healthy as possible.
 
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Zzarchov

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I mean Zzarchov are you telling me that white NATO, coalition, 700 bases planet wide are not manned by white people from christian countries. I wouldn't say it's about religion either but you must agree that religion has been introduced to the mix what. The lust for power is found in all humans those that have the best weapons and the least morals wind up on top and like it there, that's basic ain't it? We're talking about now not some time in the past or the alleged future, try and stay contrmporary will you.:lol:


Are you telling me you think 700 NATO bases even remotely represents a portion of the conflict in this world?

Seriously? NATO has fewer troops out than one African Warzone.

The world does not revolve around the west, many things go on without their permission or influence.
 

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If there isn't there should be. The religion is a vile sickness and I do not want it spreading here to Canada. The remedy is of coarse free speech where people can point out and dissect the religions horrid nature. The worst thing possible then is to enact laws prohibiting such discussions as "hatred." There is a point where being too liberal can become dangerous. Some things shouldn't be accepted. Violent religions full of hatred is one IMO.

It isn't hatred to say a religion is a vile illness. Christianity is one too. So we have checks and balances such as the seperation of church and state. My statement does not reflect on the religions adherents except to say they are infected. If I say smallpox is a vile illness am I saying the people infected with smallpox are vile? No, I certainly am not. So too when I say the Muslims and Christians and any other religion is an illness I do not mean any harm to the infected. It is not anyones fault they are ill. Typically the sickness is caught at a very young age anyway, before culpability is a factor.

Yes, lets keep Canada as healthy as possible.

I do not agree that religion is a vile illness.......

I do agree that Islam appears to be incompatible with a free society.

I would point out the the foundations of English (and American) democracy and liberty in the west are built on the solid rock of Christianity.......(waxing poetic here, try not to puke :))

John Locke, the premier philosopher extolling the political rights of man in the 1600s, believed was inspired by God.....if man was, as an individual, important enough to God that he sacrificed His Son, than each individual must be important in worldly society.........
 

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Case construction and fabricated fact are common tricks of the legal system. It's called custom fit framework. Destruction of evidence is another favoured trick of laws enforcers. It's the hallmark of folks with something to hide.
Hi, Wolf;
isn't it disturbing how people with a bit of power think they are gods and can make or break any person, if they so choose? I've seen it also with the German military brass in Afghanistan, where their soldiers misshandled a young Tuerk from Germany, and years later, when he was finally released from Guantanamo and accused the German soldiers... anything incriminating was flatly denied, and by some mysterious force all data for that certain time period had been untraceably lost!!!!

Many Germans hate the Tuerks... his name was Murat Kurnaz, born and raised in Germany by immigrant parents. To this day he is branded a liar, having invented the story of being roughed-up by the German soldiers. For appearance sake, though, the government is still "investigating"!!!

I'm very disappointed in the Germans!!
 

Risus

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Hey, little One; I didn't say you are anti-Muslim, I am wondering, if our government for one, and the people for two are biased against Muslims.
So, may I ask, are you?

Hey loonie, I'm not little: 6'2" 250 pounds, so address me correctly. And in answer to your question, NO.
 

darkbeaver

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How Hollywood Portrays Arabs

By Remi Kanazi

Global Research, June 27, 2008

I love Adam Sandler. From Billy Madison to Happy Gilmore to the Chanukah Song, the predecessor of the Superbad generation has effortlessly conquered the domain of slapstick comedy and inappropriate jokes. But damn you Scuba Steve! If you’re going to propagate misinformation about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, do it quietly—or at least in your non-comedic life.
You Don’t Mess With the Zohan, Sandler’s new flick, takes Hollywood chicanery and stereotypes that denigrate Arabs to an unprecedented level—surpassing hit flicks like the Kingdom, the Siege, and every Arnold Schwarzenegger and Chuck Norris movie that came before it. I group Zohan with other shamelessly racist action movies because a film should at least be minutely funny to be categorized as a comedy. For the Sandler diehards and hilarity-loving skeptics, I should clearly state:using race and prejudices to engender laughter is not the problem. Mel Brooks and the creators of South Park exploit stereotypes far beyond anything Sandler has ever done, but unlike Zohan, I don’t think insidious propaganda and underlying racism drive their comedy. After all, if this hebetudinous clunker was just comedy, Sandler and company wouldn’t have, as the New York Times reported, sought out Arab actors to give the movie "legitimacy."Their search was successful and a few token Arabs showed their presence to innocuously inform the public that it is okay to vilify the crazy towel-headed terrorists once again.
What makes this movie even worse than many of the unfavorable movies made post-9/11 is Zohan’s disarming presentation; it is a comedic approach to understanding the inner workings of the substandard Arab people. Like the job stealing Mexicans, the liquor store robbing Blacks, and the HIV infested gays, negative stereotypes in Zohan strip down the Arab people to RPG wielding animals that senselessly thirst for Jewish blood.
From the start of the
 

darkbeaver

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On a Quest for Secular Piety

by Justin Podur / June 27th, 2008
Tarek personally asked me to review his book, Chasing a Mirage: The Tragic Illusion of an Islamic State (CM). It has been reviewed very favorably indeed in the Canadian media, especially the Asper-family owned newspapers. The right-wing National Post published long excerpts from the book in serial form, and frequently runs op-eds by Tarek. His basic thesis is that religion and politics should be separated in Islam. Although it has major flaws, it also has many attributes of interest and will be thought-provoking on the relationship between religion and politics, and between Islam and the West.
A flawed book with some thought-provoking ideas
The experience of reading the book is a jarring one. Tarek frequently ove
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/on-a-quest-for-secular-piety/
 

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Fortress Britain

by Muhammad Idrees Ahmad / June 27th, 2008
“The public has to be more alert”, warned one “international terrorism expert” in the Daily Mail late last year, because Scotland “is set to become another Israel within five years”. “[A]nti-terror measures will soon become a common feature of life”, he assured the audience, and called for “routine arming of police officers” and increasing children’s “awareness of the dangers of terrorism” and for them to be “encouraged” to report anything “out of the ordinary”.
The oracle of doom was one Amnon Maor, identified as the head instructor of counter-terrorism for the IDF and Israeli border police.1 Maor is working with security firm 360 Defence, based near Glasgow, which is “training Scottish police, military and civilians in security techniques”. This wouldn’t be the first time the British police benefits from Israeli anti-terror expertise. The police squad that carried out the extrajudicial execution of the young Brazilian electrician Jean-Charles de Menezes in the London underground had received similar training.
In the post-September 11 world, Naomi Klein writes, Israel has pitched its “uprooting, occupation and containment of the Palestinian people as a half-century head start in the ‘global war on terror’”. Britain has since been furnished with its own unpopular occupation of Arab land — and the lessons from Israel are not lost on its architects. In disaster lies opportunity — and the only thing more useful than a thing to fear is fear itself. The give away line in Maor’s prescription above is his offer to increase children’s awareness of the dangers of terrorism — absent the real thing, fear should suffice. The Prime Minister may not have many achievements to his name, but he can claim patents to ‘Fortress Britain’, whose battlements sit on a foundation of fear.http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/fortress-britain/


The Power of Nightmares

In October 2001 it was revealed that the Pentagon was consulting Hollywood writers and producers specializing in spy thrillers and disaster flicks to imagine future attacks in order to best prepare for them. Developments such as the colour-coded threat alerts that change hue at the Department of Homeland Security’s caprice have alarmed even cold war hawks like Zbigniew Brzezinski enough to lament this ‘culture of fear’:
Fear obscures reason, intensifies emotions and makes it easier for demagogic politicians to mobilize the public on behalf of the policies they want to pursue… Such fear-mongering, reinforced by security entrepreneurs, the mass media and the entertainment industry, generates its own momentum.
 
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Sorry I have to puke....

What nonesense! America and Canada were discovered founded and moulded into "nations" on the basis of greed and the interests of the few. It's about escaping "taxation without representation".... "Forging a dominion from sea to shining sea....on the backs of slaves and the poor.

Always has been Colpy.

All this self-satisfying gobbledegook about John Locke.....well its as disingenuous as Allah and Jihad....

I'm suprised at your willingness to self-delusion Uncle Bob!
 

MikeyDB

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Hey Beve...

If that's what the wealthy want.... and there are sufficient numbers of mindless sychophants prepared to lay down their lives for the children greed.....

I don't hear anything about protests and demonstrations from the people screwed-over by "big petroleum" and "big sugar" and everyone's still buying clothing and googahs from China and third-world sweat shop emporiums....

Who cares?