Demolition Experts Debunk 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

CDNBear

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I knew it this could come!!!!! :lol::lol: Good for you, Bear, to expose my ignorance!! But, I like to argue that the tower did not fall headlong across the landscape! In all that smoke it is a little hard to see exactly how far out it fell. To me it looked more like as if it had crumbled down into itself.
Anyway, I gladly grant you a brownie point for being critical and wide awake!!!;-)
Thanx...

To anyone that is truly open to listening and thusly learning. A controlled demolition does not look anything like what you saw on 9/11. But...nothing, not one building collapse to date will look like anything witnessed on 9/11 either, nor will you likely be seeing anything simular in the future.

I do a hell of a lot of work for a company that not only serviced the elevators in the WTC until 9/11, but replaced all the hoisting units cars and supporting mechanisms.

Their engineering staff are among the best in the world, in fact they are considered to be the leading edge in elevator design, construction and installation.

This topic has been addressed readily and at great lengths, seeing as the industy is acutely affected by such things.

It is the assertion of these engineers, that it was the absolutely unique design, and yes, contrary to the flat foreheaded-tinfoiled conspiracy theorists dellussions, the WTC is and was one of a kind. Trying to compare the WTC's destruction to anything in history is like trying to compare a flattening tire to a decomposing mouse.

Global building construction model, internal frame.

WTC builing consrtruction model, EXTERNAL frame.

The day these CT's get that piece of finite FACT through their heads, is the day they start to become real free thinkers.

You don't have to give up your quest for the truth, but negating reality and replacing it with theories that amount to pure hyperbole, is not an effort worth joining, let alone allowing to fester.
 

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That bear is a brilliantly educated thing ain't he? Ohhhh the errors in our judgements, what a terrible burden, how can we ever redeem ourselves, we should bow before that majestic animals enormous wisdom and thank the gods one such as he is there to save us from the Islamic Fascist Hordes ravageing the planet eating christian and jewish babies and poopin in our flower beds. Jehova deliver me from idiot circus animals.:lol:
Another contibution of pure briliance beave. When you can't back up your shyte, do as the beave, juan and others of their ilk, insult.

If you can, prove to all of us idiots how the WTC was like any other building in the world, let alone how they would collapse under simular circumstances.
 

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Thanx...

To anyone that is truly open to listening and thusly learning. A controlled demolition does not look anything like what you saw on 9/11. But...nothing, not one building collapse to date will look like anything witnessed on 9/11 either, nor will you likely be seeing anything simular in the future.

I do a hell of a lot of work for a company that not only serviced the elevators in the WTC until 9/11, but replaced all the hoisting units cars and supporting mechanisms.

Their engineering staff are among the best in the world, in fact they are considered to be the leading edge in elevator design, construction and installation.

This topic has been addressed readily and at great lengths, seeing as the industy is acutely affected by such things.

It is the assertion of these engineers, that it was the absolutely unique design, and yes, contrary to the flat foreheaded-tinfoiled conspiracy theorists dellussions, the WTC is and was one of a kind. Trying to compare the WTC's destruction to anything in history is like trying to compare a flattening tire to a decomposing mouse.

Global building construction model, internal frame.

WTC builing consrtruction model, EXTERNAL frame.

The day these CT's get that piece of finite FACT through their heads, is the day they start to become real free thinkers.

You don't have to give up your quest for the truth, but negating reality and replacing it with theories that amount to pure hyperbole, is not an effort worth joining, let alone allowing to fester.
I believe you, Bear! My brain does not have the capacity to start learning such complicated and boring things. I have a hard enough time already just understanding the basic functions of my computer!!:roll: Technical stuff I rather leave to the men!! What else are they good for?? :p
 

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I believe you, Bear! My brain does not have the capacity to start learning such complicated and boring things. I have a hard enough time already just understanding the basic functions of my computer!!:roll: Technical stuff I rather leave to the men!! What else are they good for?? :p
I'm glad I made an impression, now if you I had any effect on you in that thread where you quoted the 'RollingStone' Magazine, you should be taking what I said and either supporting it or disproving it.

DO NOT BELIVE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE TELL YOU TO BELIEVE!!!

Believe what the proponderance of evidence would indicate, believe fact. Do not read Op/Ed (Opinion/Editorial) pieces. That's someone elses interpretation of the facts.

Go find the facts. Read what qualified experts have to say and either look at their supporting evidence or find it yourself.

And remember this, if it's really neatly packaged, and seems to good to be true. It likely is. No matter the credentials the source seems to posess.
 

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I'm glad I made an impression, now if I had any effect on you in that thread where you quoted the 'Rolling Stone' Magazine, you should be taking what I said and either supporting it or disproving it.

DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE TELL YOU TO BELIEVE!!!

Believe what the preponderance of evidence would indicate, believe fact. Do not read Op/Ed (Opinion/Editorial) pieces. That's someone else's interpretation of the facts.

Go find the facts. Read what qualified experts have to say and either look at their supporting evidence or find it yourself.

And remember this, if it's really neatly packaged, and seems to good to be true. It likely is. No matter the credentials the source seems to possess.
Well, at least we start sniffing each other!!:p Although you could wipe me out with one little swat.:roll:
I had already forgotten that Rolling Stone magazine argument... but not you, eh? :smile: I have to go back and find it... what was the heading of that thread?

Thanks for your well meant advice not to believe what other people tell me. That's very hard, Bear. How can I, little loon, who truly is just a grain of sand on a sandy beach, go around and check everything out myself....not possible. Therefore I try to make my best guess as to WHOM I can trust and then take my chance believing what they say.
 

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Well, at least we start sniffing each other!!:p Although you could wipe me out with one little swat.:roll:
I had already forgotten that Rolling Stone magazine argument... but not you, eh? :smile: I have to go back and find it... what was the heading of that thread?
I forget now, I just remember that event.

Thanks for your well meant advice not to believe what other people tell me. That's very hard, Bear. How can I, little loon, who truly is just a grain of sand on a sandy beach, go around and check everything out myself....not possible. Therefore I try to make my best guess as to WHOM I can trust and then take my chance believing what they say.
You can start by not beleiving a word I or anyone else has to say until either completely proven or disproven.

The first thing you should do is begin to research what you take in.

Filter out Op/Ed pieces like the ones in that thread on Internet communications being cut.

I don't really care what anyones political leanings are, nor do I care if they think the US is the boogie man. I generaly believe that people SHOULD having differing and opposing points of view. That's how we come to compromise and in some very rare cases, the truth.

What I truly find annoying is people using Op/Ed pieces ripe with innuendo and blanant, empty accusations supported by tons and tons of supposition and grandstanding and nothing more.
 

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More evidence of Pre-9/11 Inside Trading: Follow the Money? God forbid
Why was the cashing out of billions of dollars just before 9/11 never investigated?

By Jim Hogue

Global Research, February 10, 2008
Baltimore Chronicle

Had an investigation been done into the crime of failing to file the “currency transaction reports” in August 2001, then we would know who made the cash withdrawals in $100 bills amounting to the $5 billion surge.

When reviewing the record of July and August of 2001, Bill Bergman noticed a $5 billion surge in the currency component of the M1 money supply—the third largest such increase since 1947. Bergman asked about this anomaly—and was removed from his investigative duties.

It's been over six years since 9/11, but U.S. regulatory entities have been slow to follow through with reports about the complex financial transactions that occurred just prior to and following the attacks. Such research could shed light on such questions as who was behind them—and who benefited—and could help lay to rest the rumors that have been festering.
Warning bells about anomalies in the fiscal sector were sounded in the summer of 2001, but not heeded.

Among those who has since raised questions was Bill Bergman. As a financial market analyst for the Federal Reserve, he was assigned in 2003 to review the record of July and August of 2001. He noticed an unusual surge in the currency component of the M1 money supply (cash circulating outside of banks) during that period. The surge totaled over $5 billion above the norm for a two-month increase.

The increase in August alone was the third largest single monthly increase since 1947, even after a significantly above-average month in July.
Surges in the currency component of M1 are often the result of people withdrawing their cash to protect themselves lest some anticipated disaster (such as Y2K) befall the economy. In January of 1991 a surge was recorded (the then second-largest since ’47), which could be attributed to “war-time hoarding” before the Iraq I invasion, but could also be attributed to financial maneuverings and liquefying of assets relating to the BCCI enforcement proceedings.
Bergman points out that the August 2001 withdrawals may have been, to a large extent, caused by the Argentinian banking crisis that was occurring at the time. However, he raises the point that no explanation has yet fully answered the important question: Why was the cashing out of billions of dollars just before the 9/11 attacks never investigated?

It’s possible that the answer to this question is also the answer to the other follow-the-money questions surrounding 9/11; and despite an embarrassing heap of evidence, neither the press, nor Congress, nor any agency with investigative responsibility has done its job on our behalf. On the contrary, their inaction might reasonably be construed as a cover-up.
Bergman "followed the money," including developing a framework for working with money-laundering data and “suspicious activity” reports for monitoring and investigating terrorism. The questions he asked about what happened during the summer of 2001 should have led to investigations, which should have resulted in the prosecution of those with foreknowledge of the attacks.
Those who follow the history of the 9/11 fact-finding movement know that there is a laundry-list of unanswered questions that are just as compelling as those put forth by Bergman.

And there is also a laundry-list of whistle-blowers who have been fired and subsequently ignored. So it is not at all surprising that Bergman was removed from his investigative duties, and that his concerns were not publicly addressed.
Bergman's supervisor instructed him to follow up on an unanswered question he had raised pertaining to an August 2, 2001 letter from the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve to the 12 Reserve Banks. This letter urged scrutiny of suspicious activity reports. Bergman learned of the pervasiveness of the warnings of the 9/11 attacks, and wondered how thoroughly these warnings had permeated the financial system.
In this capacity as Federal Reserve investigative point-man, and with his money-laundering portfolio being guided by his supervisor's directive, he asked the Board why they had issued their August 2, 2001 directive, and whether this related to any heightened intelligence of a terrorist threat. His position was then eliminated, and a crucial investigation was terminated before it could even begin.
Another 9/11 Commission Misrepresentation

Footnote 28 of the Staff Monograph on Terrorist Financing from the official 9/11 Commission Report states that the National Money-laundering Strategy Report for 2001 “didn’t mention terrorist financing in any of its 50 pages.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8046
 

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I really think the Illuminati was in cahoots with Al-Queda, this needs to be investigated.

I think it was the guy from the x-files, you know, the one that smoked alot. He was the one that shot JFK for crying out loud, he's got to have something to do with 9/11.

 

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Mark Emery has DB's picture on his wall for being his largest consumer.

Colpy's right, put down the joint and start drinking coffee.


Address the material in the post and not me the poster. Now if the fuzzy money trail surrounding tradeing at the time of the 9/11 scam does not raise some pertinant questions or comments then move along to some thread where your interests may better be served. May I suggest our selection of light and fluffy threads including {join the dots fun with mr potatoe} or {colouring farm animals, eight basics shades}or {tinfoil jokes through the ages}, I'm sure if you shop the threads here you'll find something that more comfortably compliments your intellect.
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Some more points on the supposed "demolition" of the WTC (which I have pilfered from elsewhere)

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The proposed demolition of the WTC would have required the placement of thousands of explosive charges. Since none were found in the rubble, we can conclude that they detonated with 100% reliability. Given that they were allegedly placed in a hurried fashion (over a weekend according to the "power-down" claims) and that airliners were then flown into the Towers and one of the towers subsequently fell on WTC7, how likely is that? Not one charge had its wiring dislodged, or was knocked out of place, or just didn't go off for whatever reason?

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To wire WTC7 for a demolition, these magical explosives would have had to:
  • Have evaded bomb sniffing dogs upon entry into the building.
  • Have been powerful enough to slice a column without actually being placed on the column. That or walls and entire offices would have had to have been removed in order to place them directly on the columns.
  • Have been quiet enough to be missed by seismic detectors and audio equipment nearby.
  • Have survived another building impacting onto them without severing det cord or prematurely exploding charges.
  • Have survived 6-7 hours of building-wide fires.
  • Have been detonated without any external visual signs.
  • Have been undetected by staff and occupants of the building.
  • Have been placed without the knowledge staff and occupants in the building.
  • Have been placed by someone who were willing to keep their mouth shut over what they did, despite being involved in an event that killed 3,000 people.
 

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Some more points on the supposed "demolition" of the WTC (which I have pilfered from elsewhere)

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The proposed demolition of the WTC would have required the placement of thousands of explosive charges. Since none were found in the rubble, we can conclude that they detonated with 100% reliability. Given that they were allegedly placed in a hurried fashion (over a weekend according to the "power-down" claims) and that airliners were then flown into the Towers and one of the towers subsequently fell on WTC7, how likely is that? Not one charge had its wiring dislodged, or was knocked out of place, or just didn't go off for whatever reason?

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To wire WTC7 for a demolition, these magical explosives would have had to:
  • Have evaded bomb sniffing dogs upon entry into the building.
  • Have been powerful enough to slice a column without actually being placed on the column. That or walls and entire offices would have had to have been removed in order to place them directly on the columns.
  • Have been quiet enough to be missed by seismic detectors and audio equipment nearby.
  • Have survived another building impacting onto them without severing det cord or prematurely exploding charges.
  • Have survived 6-7 hours of building-wide fires.
  • Have been detonated without any external visual signs.
  • Have been undetected by staff and occupants of the building.
  • Have been placed without the knowledge staff and occupants in the building.
  • Have been placed by someone who were willing to keep their mouth shut over what they did, despite being involved in an event that killed 3,000 people.

They weren't bomb sniffing dogs. They were regular house pets and the dog handling feds were all in on it.

The detonation cords were "falling building" and fire proof. Special CIA det cords. The explosives were also fire and heat resistant explosives...real high speed CIA stuff.

And yes...everyone kept their mouths shut and nobody said a word about the CIA "black ops" placing explosives all over the building.

The CIA and FBI under Bush's orders did it and that is that. End of discussion. End of debate. Admit your failings and come to the side of conspiracist. If you do not you are all retards, sheep, idiots. We are the way.
 

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They weren't bomb sniffing dogs. They were regular house pets and the dog handling feds were all in on it.

The detonation cords were "falling building" and fire proof. Special CIA det cords. The explosives were also fire and heat resistant explosives...real high speed CIA stuff.

And yes...everyone kept their mouths shut and nobody said a word about the CIA "black ops" placing explosives all over the building.

The CIA and FBI under Bush's orders did it and that is that. End of discussion. End of debate. Admit your failings and come to the side of conspiracist. If you do not you are all retards, sheep, idiots. We are the way.

I'm glad you cleared that up for us....THANKS! :) :)