'We will tone you down,' Chavez warns news channel

[darkbeaver]

Overall I,m very pleased with Comrade Chavez.There,s a guy who can work a crowd.I understand he can deliver a joke as well. I agree with his approach to the countrys capitalist pig media. If you dont insist on quality journalism you end up being owned controled and educated by capitalist pigs, like we are.
Stephen Harpercon eats babys.

 

[s243a]

Overall I,m very pleased with Comrade Chavez.There,s a guy who can work a crowd.I understand he can deliver a joke as well. I agree with his approach to the countrys capitalist pig media. If you dont insist on quality journalism you end up being owned controled and educated by capitalist pigs, like we are.
Stephen Harpercon eats babys.

When are you going to move there and joing the revolution. :roll:

 

[Zzarchov]

It all depends on your point of view. Do you think Bush's foreign policies are popular in Iraq? Are they popular anywhere in the world? Bush is the most universally hated leader in the world today. I don't demonize Bush, he does it all by his self.

Thats because he matters and Chavez don't. Do you think the columbians being strung up by tree's by Venezualan backed paramilitaries like Chavez?

I don't. I bet they are pretty damn unpopular. At least Bush was popular in Iraq for awhile, he still is in Kurdistan.

 

[Unforgiven]

Overall I,m very pleased with Comrade Chavez.There,s a guy who can work a crowd.I understand he can deliver a joke as well. I agree with his approach to the countrys capitalist pig media. If you dont insist on quality journalism you end up being owned controled and educated by capitalist pigs, like we are.
Stephen Harpercon eats babys.

This I like. :canada:

 

[Unforgiven]

When are you going to move there and joing the revolution. :roll:

Think globally, act locally. :idea:

 

[Toro]

Strangely enough, Chevez is a hero of his people. The Americans have tried unsuccessfully to depose him and no doubt they will eventually succeed. Can't have countries controlling their own oil...

http://tinyurl.com/34q4q3

That has what to do with Hugh Chav shutting down a private TV station?

 

[#juan]

That has what to do with Hugh Chav shutting down a private TV station?

You know, most of Chavez's opposition is funded by the CIA. From what I've read that TV station was calling for assassination. If they were, they should be shut down.

 

[Toro]

This is one of the most popular stations in Venezuela. It was around long, long before Chavez. I don't think it needed any funding from the CIA.

And BTW, that link you posted was as bad as the extreme right-wing blaming the liberal MSM for all its problems.

This is a man who now has the power to rule by decree as he sees fit. He does not have to answer to anyone for at least another 17 months. He is shutting down TV stations.

This guy has done far, far more to suspend civil liberties in Venezuela than anything Bush has done that the Left gets its panties all tied up in knots over, yet the Left has no problem rushing in and defending him (except, apparently, for BitWhys).

Civil liberties, it appears, doesn't mean jack. What matters is what side of the political spectrum gets to restrict those civil liberties, I guess.

 

[#juan]

This is one of the most popular stations in Venezuela. It was around long, long before Chavez. I don't think it needed any funding from the CIA.

I didn't say the TV station was funded by the CIA

And BTW, that link you posted was as bad as the extreme right-wing blaming the liberal MSM for all its problems.

I have a neighbor who visits relatives in Caracas. He claims Chavez is not a dictator and that Chavez enjoys the support of the majority of Venezuelan people.

This is a man who now has the power to rule by decree as he sees fit. He does not have to answer to anyone for at least another 17 months. He is shutting down TV stations.

This guy has done far, far more to suspend civil liberties in Venezuela than anything Bush has done that the Left gets its panties all tied up in knots over, yet the Left has no problem rushing in and defending him (except, apparently, for BitWhys).

Funny that people who live there don't agree with you.

Civil liberties, it appears, doesn't mean jack. What matters is what side of the political spectrum gets to restrict those civil liberties, I guess.

I don't know that civil liberties are being restricted.

 

[mabudon]

it's much better for loudmouth Usonians to scream about what is purportedly happening in foreign countries. They can't bear to look at what surrounds them and really understand the impact, so they'll pretend that they actually care about opressed folks in Venezuela (OIL rich Venezuela... and "opression" just like that of Tyrant Saddam, funny that) and try to demonize the leader of that country.
Then when their lawless rogue nation decides to take what they want by force, it'll be kosher.

Is it really not obvious to everyone what this entire subject is ACTUALLY about or what??

 

[Toro]

I don't know that civil liberties are being restricted.

He shut down a TV station that criticized him!

That's not a restriction of civil liberties? What do you think the ACLU would do if Bush tried to shut down CBS?

What would you say if Harper won a majority then passed a law shutting down the Toronto Star? Would you support him?

And I did not say he was a dictator. I said he is ruling by decree.

VENEZUELA'S president, Hugo Chavez, yesterday assumed the right to rule by decree for 18 months, allowing him unfettered power to lead the country down the path to his new socialist model.

"The president needs this enabling law to deepen the revolution," said the politician Hermes Garcia as the National Assembly voted to grant the president special powers. "He needs these powers to take Venezuela to a truly socialist state."

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=165932007

So, if Harper win a majority, and Parliament allows him to pass laws by decree because he wanted to implement a "new capitalistic model," you'd think that was fine?

What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

 

[Toro]

it's much better for loudmouth Usonians to scream about what is purportedly happening in foreign countries.

Why are you talking about yourself?

 

[BitWhys]

...yet the Left has no problem rushing in and defending him (except, apparently, for BitWhys).
...

heh. good one.

as if my being to the left of what Hillier's licking makes me somehow representitive. :lol:

 

[Toro]

You can be for redistributing a nation's oil wealth and against restrictions on the free press at the same time.

I would have thought most Lefties in Canada would take this position, actually.

 

[BitWhys]

You can be for redistributing a nation's oil wealth and against restrictions on the free press at the same time.

I would have thought most Lefties in Canada would take this position, actually.

Yeah, but near as I can figure at the same time I'm not a big fan of nationalization where it isn't necessary. These days my plan would be more along the lines of taxing the hell out them just enough they're begging to be taken over then backing off by about 3 executive salaries per company so they're so busy stabbing each other in the back over it they forget their lines. Assuming the problem's that big in first place, of course.

but what do I know. I still have no clue what "most Lefties in Canada" think about most things.

 

[s243a]

Civil liberties, it appears, doesn't mean jack. What matters is what side of the political spectrum gets to restrict those civil liberties, I guess.

It is for this reason that I really wish people would look more seriously at other parties besides the main ones. I would love to see both the Freedom Party of Canada and the Marijuana party win some seats in the house.

 

[s243a]

it's much better for loudmouth Usonians to scream about what is purportedly happening in foreign countries. They can't bear to look at what surrounds them and really understand the impact, so they'll pretend that they actually care about opressed folks in Venezuela (OIL rich Venezuela... and "opression" just like that of Tyrant Saddam, funny that) and try to demonize the leader of that country.
Then when their lawless rogue nation decides to take what they want by force, it'll be kosher.

Is it really not obvious to everyone what this entire subject is ACTUALLY about or what??

The left really needs to wake up. Look how much the Iraq war is costing and ask yourself how big a factor does oil really play. Your comments are repugnant. How dare you make such broad generalizations about the empathy of others. I think Venezuela is important because it reminds us how easy it is for democracies to fall and freedoms to vanish. We must ask ourselves why our free nations hated while brutal dictators are praised. We must stop thinking we are smart when we feed the crocodile hoping we will get eaten last. True democracies and free nations are a rarity and minority in this world. They represent a threat to despots and dictators world wide.

 

[Unforgiven]

Hey maybe he's on to something. I wouldn't miss Fox News at all.

 

[Toro]

BTW, Canada plays Venezuela in a soccer match today.

Its going to be quite the dilemma for the commies on this board on who to cheer for!

;-);-);-);-)

:canada:

 

[Colpy]

Yeah, but near as I can figure at the same time I'm not a big fan of nationalization where it isn't necessary. These days my plan would be more along the lines of taxing the hell out them just enough they're begging to be taken over then backing off by about 3 executive salaries per company so they're so busy stabbing each other in the back over it they forget their lines. Assuming the problem's that big in first place, of course.

but what do I know. I still have no clue what "most Lefties in Canada" think about most things.

Reminds me of a Churchill story:

Winston was in the Parliamentary washroom just moving up to a urinal when Clement Atlee entered and approached the urinal next. Winston immediately moved to the opposite end, causing Atlee to ask "Not feeling particularly social this morning Winston?"

"Not at all", replied Churchill, "It's just that it seems whenever you see something big, you try to nationalize it."