Canadian soldier killed defending our freedom

[CDNBear]

“War was declared against Western countries”

No my friend there was never a declaration of war made by any nation against “Western countries”….

Who can declare “war”?

What you’re suggesting is that a band of fanatical Islamists operating under the aegis of al-Qa'ida commited an act of war against the United States and Canada and this was an act of war.

These people are criminals, not the agents of foreign governments! What gives you the idea that a criminal conspiracy successful in engendering fear and hatred in North Americans is the policy of some legal foreign entity?

You bought that Iraq was sitting on a pile of weapons of mass destruction too right?

But your presentation confirms exactly what the terrorists want. Your idea that there is a cultural divide predicated on religious grounds that a foreign power i.e., Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, whomever…seeks to destroy the goose that laid the golden egg…

It makes perfect sense as far as your concerned that after years of commerce and piles of money paid for petroleum to oppressive regimes in the oil producing nations in the Middle East that they would choose to cut their throats while they cut ours just to impress upon us that our habits of consumption are the real source of conflict?

Connie Rice has an Exxon super-tanker named after her….the soviets occupied Afghanistan with hopes of securing a “right-of-way” to build a gas pipeline (ask the mayor of Kandahar he used to work for the American oil cartel) ….despite all these contributing factors you believe that Islamists are driven by their religious zeal to eviscerate Christianity and this is all about religion…..

How about them leafs…….

YES, some sects do want to wipe out Christianity and that ofends me, and I'm not even Christian!

Do I really have to waste my time and find all the sound bites, pics and vid clips to show you that the extremists in the Muslim world want nothing more then the global occupation of an Islamic Army?

You and I both know full well, you will heed nothing from any time I invest in our education, so why bother.

 

[MikeyDB]

Northstar

When the "Outlaws" or the "Hells Angels" move their gun-smuggling operations from Knoxville to Detroit or the "Aryan Nations" fire up a printing press in Toledo with distribution outlets targetting Toronto and Edmonton is that the work of an oganized criminal conspiracy or is it "war" being declared on Canad by the United States?

 

[MikeyDB]

I'd invite you to examine other "wars" declared by the American administration with assistance from Canada that have taken place in many locales throughout the world. There have been very few "declarations of war" involving the deaths of millions and the destruction of entire cities and populations...all approved by the democracies of Canada and the United States.

If it's a "war" are you satisfied that abandoning the Geneva Conventions, that prisoner torture is appropriate in this particular circumstance and that it's completely justifiable that people can be detained and imprisoned because the RCMP or CSIS or the FBI or the CIA decide that that person is a potential terrorist?

How much of your freedom are you prepared to surrender to prosecute this "war"?

 

[CDNBear]

Northstar

When the "Outlaws" or the "Hells Angels" move their gun-smuggling operations from Knoxville to Detroit or the "Aryan Nations" fire up a printing press in Toledo with distribution outlets targetting Toronto and Edmonton is that the work of an oganized criminal conspiracy or is it "war" being declared on Canad by the United States?

Northstar, don't even dignify this tripe with a response.

Mikey, your not even in the same ball park, let alone the same planet with that ridiculous question. You can not draw a relivant comparison between the "murderous" ideology of an act like 9/11, London, Spain, Bali, or attempted in T dot, between these two totally different sinerious, and you know it.

Are you running out of big words and such?

 

[CDNBear]

I'd invite you to examine other "wars" declared by the American administration with assistance from Canada that have taken place in many locales throughout the world. There have been very few "declarations of war" involving the deaths of millions and the destruction of entire cities and populations...all approved by the democracies of Canada and the United States.

If it's a "war" are you satisfied that abandoning the Geneva Conventions, that prisoner torture is appropriate in this particular circumstance and that it's completely justifiable that people can be detained and imprisoned because the RCMP or CSIS or the FBI or the CIA decide that that person is a potential terrorist?

How much of your freedom are you prepared to surrender to prosecute this "war"?

All of it, I am so tired of you lib-left wingnuts using that hystericalised crap, it's not even funny. I haven't lost one bit of freedom, so I might get strip searched in the airport, because of the amount of mewtal in my body holding it together, so what. At least I know the security guards are awake, and my flight might be safe.

I know I may be on the FBI watch list, because of some of the sites I have visited to expand my mind (Try that some time), so what, come to my house and take my computer, I'll only miss the internet porn. At least they're trying to do something for the greater good, misguided or not.

I speak out against the coruption in my community, I act, I have and will continue to "Stand and Deliver", what have you done to better the world?

 

[northstar]

obviously this 'miky has an axe to grind because his pals got caught trying to murder innocent civilians. And torture here is nothing comparied to the horrors endured by the women and children that by Muslim tradition are beaten, mutilated and prostituted. Mikey, get the facts.

 

[CDNBear]

obviously this 'miky has an axe to grind because his pals got caught trying to murder innocent civilians. And torture here is nothing comparied to the horrors endured by the women and children that by Muslim tradition are beaten, mutilated and prostituted. Mikey, get the facts.

Facts, to semi quote Al Pachino in Scarface, "he don need no stinkin fact's", he's a liberal lap dog.

There's no axe to grind either, that would entail manual labour, liberals don't do their own dirty work, they have ad agencies do it, then they just wait for the risiduals.

 

[catman]

Would you like to correct that? SH, did not send them.

True. But I doubt the mission would have been extended to 2009 by a Liberal government under the current circumstances.

At least we can be thankful that the did not send troops to Iraq. Something the Harper government WOULD have done.

 

[CDNBear]

True. But I doubt the mission would have been extended to 2009 by a Liberal government under the current circumstances.

At least we can be thankful that the did not send troops to Iraq. Something the Harper government WOULD have done.

Holy crap, another liberal lap dog!!!

"Hunny!! Close the door the assheads from Hamilton are coming!!!"

You know full well, that you have no idea what the Liberals would do, If they maintained office. the fact that Martin could formulate a deciecive thought and stick to it, is proof of that.

The fact that you wear blue on Fridays and use silly shots against SH is proof you have no relavent information to add here. Shew flea, ya bother me, hahahahaha.

What was I saying about smug impetuence? Hmm, I should practice what I preach, I know, I'll make a new years resolution, and then change my mind like a liberal.

Must be nice on top of that fence mister.

 

[tamarin]

Put pressure on Pakistan, Bear!

We need ideas and ones that will bear fruit as more Canadian lives are lost in Afghanistan.
There's only one way out of this this one: put meaningful pressure on Pakistan.
Despite its relatively benign image, Pakistan is a rogue state. It is Pakistan who has given safe haven to the Taliban. It is Pakistan that has allowed the fundamentalists to regroup.
Alarmingly, it is also Pakistan that has made the North Korean nuclear horror possible. It is this country that has sold nuclear technology to the north's mindless government there.
Sane analysts have examined the latter and they know there's also only one solution now: put pressure on the Chinese. it is China that props up North Korea. It is Chinese energy and food that supports the North Korean regime and people.
China holds the key to a North Korean solution. Pakistan holds the key to an Afghan solution.
It's hardball time. Withdraw all western ambassadors to Pakistan. Cut diplomatic ties and begin to draw down trade. Send a message. Send a message to the only reception centre that can actually act on one.

 

[MikeyDB]

Great having a discussion with you folk....

Asshead...Liberal....

Why don't all you folk go find some flies in need of having their wings pulled-off...

Something more suited to your intelligence and dispositions....

 

[CDNBear]

Great having a discussion with you folk....

Asshead...Liberal....

Why don't all you folk go find some flies in need of having their wings pulled-off...

Something more suited to your intelligence and dispositions....

This coming from someone that uses great flowery speaches to belittle people, at least I'm brave enough to just come right out and say it.

Chicken, must be nice to throw punches in the dark, but when the lights come on, run lika roach.

B' bye now. Stay away from the sticky paper.

 

[MikeyDB]

I'm sorry your formula thinking and best escape from reason and logic are name calling and hyperbole with no substance of any kind...but hey that's your problem not mine.

But if it pleases your sense of honesty to bring this conversation down to the lowest common denominator hey I'll oblige...

FQK you ASSHOLE...

There feel better now

 

[MikeyDB]

Is there anyone stil participating in this forum that's older than the adolescent mind I've been talking to that calls itself CDNbear???

Or is this forum completely populated with folk brain dead from the neck up?

 

[CDNBear]

Is there anyone stil participating in this forum that's older than the adolescent mind I've been talking to that calls itself CDNbear???

Or is this forum completely populated with folk brain dead from the neck up?

Oh you hurt me so much, you took a quote from a post to someone else and you inferred it was to you?

Says a lot about you donnit? LMAO

Like I said, you spew out big flowery speaches, belittling people, and you have the liberal nerve to start crying like a lil' boy who had his perverbial bum slapped.

Oh get real, next thing you know, you'll attack my spelling and/or grammar. Now that would be refreshingly old.

Now, now lil' man, there's no need for all the tears, here's a towel, it's all right, did the big bad Bear catch you with you calling the kettle black?

 

[CDNBear]

Is there anyone stil participating in this forum that's older than the adolescent mind I've been talking to that calls itself CDNbear???

Or is this forum completely populated with folk brain dead from the neck up?

Nope just you!!!

 

[CDNBear]

You attacked my intellegence, and classed me as nazi like, then called me a neo con.

Does this thread sound like it was posted by a neo con?

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/off-topic/51047-question-americans.html

Then when you get slapped for trying to vail your smug shots in flowery hyperbol, you start crying, after reading this quote from Colpy,
"Ya dropped your sookie Mikey. Or did you run out of Tin Foil, try Saran Wrap."

I'm beginning to see a pattern with you.

Should I invest some money in Proctor Silex? Or have you any chances of growing up in the next little while?

As usual, gets caught, crys and runs. Oh how sadly predictable.

 

[humanbeing]

I knew Josh Klukie. Went to high school with him, was friends of some of his friends, hung out with him every now and then.

Coincidentally met him at the bus depot after not seeing him in some time, and saw him off, onto the bus to Petawawa where he was to be sent to Afghanistan. Couldn't stop staring, and my mind was drawing blanks, worried I might not see him alive ever again.

He was a really, really cool guy. Had an awesome personality, was very outgoing and caring, and an amazing athlete, yet he would be quite humble and laid back at times. He brightened more than a few of my days from early morning chats just before school started. I'm so sad.

 

[catman]

You know full well, that you have no idea what the Liberals would do, If they maintained office. the fact that Martin could formulate a deciecive thought and stick to it, is proof of that.

The fact that you wear blue on Fridays and use silly shots against SH is proof you have no relavent information to add here. Shew flea, ya bother me, hahahahaha.

Harper would have sent troops to Iraq. My guess is you would have supported it too.

 

[northstar]

hmmm, some person was claiming that this war was declared by the US and some garbage about bikers being terrorists,

No my friend there was never a declaration of war made by any nation against “Western countries”…. What gives you the idea that a criminal conspiracy successful in engendering fear and hatred in North Americans is the policy of some legal foreign entity?

the rest goes BLAH-blah_blah...

For the rest of us in the real world,

The war was declared by al Queda, on September 11, 2001 by the action of a terrorist attack, followed by a televised celebration in Afganistan, and a televised declaration of war by bin Laden.

The Taliban tried to evade the war by pretending that they were not sheltering or supporting terrorism, and that there was no link to bin Laden, but that was quickly disproved, and l can go into the history of this if need be.

The other links of support to this declaration of war include the international groups of Jemaah Islamiyah, Al Queda, Jaish-e Mohammed, Lashkar-e Toiba, Abu Sayyaf.

The U.S then answered the murderous attack by entered into a war against global terrorism. Operation Enduring Freedom. Canada was immediately involved, then Britian, Nato and the UN and Germany, France, Afghanistan, Afghan Northern Alliance, Australia, India, Iraq, Isreal, Pakistan, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia.

Curently the war against terrorism is being controlled through three operations in AFGHANISTAN, Philippines and the Horm of AFRICA.

So what part about this do you not understand...

The fact that it is a war or the fact that this is a world war.