Hamas attacks Israel

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What if, in the Middle East, you narrow your search parameters, just out of curiosity? Using some of the characters listed here?
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Reflecting the topic of the thread itself?
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The AI will answer the question you give it, using whatever vagaries or biases are in your question, right? Narrowing the parameter helps to eliminate confusion that might be unintentionally involved by setting up the argument that because not all Muslims everywhere want to see the elimination of Jews, then it’s a non-issue or even a falsehood that there are organized armed and funded (by the ruling Iranian gov’t) groups in the Middle East that do wish to this this happen.

Approximately 85% of all Shia Muslims globally belong to the Twelver (Ithna Ashari) branch, making it by far the largest community within Shia Islam. For the Twelvers of Iran, Muhammad ibn Hasan — better known as Muhammad al-Mahdi — is the twelfth and final imam (other Shias, such as the Fivers and Seveners, believe the Imamate ends with the fifth and seventh imams, respectively).

Born in 868, al-Mahdi is believed to have gone into a state of “occultation” in 874 — meaning Allah miraculously caused him to “disappear.” Still alive, the 1,155 year-old Muhammad al-Mahdi is patiently biding his time to return and usher in the takeover of the Muslim — and eventually entire — world. Mahdism—the messianic belief in the return of the Twelfth Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi—is a foundational pillar of the official ideology and institutional indoctrination programs of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).

Something something hooves and horns, but this and the training and ideological indoctrination materials used by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) explicitly promote violent antisemitism, delegitimize Jewish faith, and feature rhetoric calling for actions against Jews and Zionists globally…but this could just be another coincidence… when keeping the search parameters narrowed to the Middle East, etc…right?
Exactly. Heres the rub, I used the words, terms and phrases given by Dixie Cup that she says I need to google to "know what she knows" about the warm, cute, fuzzy, all loving, pH balanced extra-human Jews of Zion and the attributes of the demonic, cold, prickly, purly hate-filled, subhuman pajama and turban wearing Muslims of the globe.
 

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Exactly. Heres the rub, I used the words, terms and phrases given by Dixie Cup that she says I need to google to "know what she knows" about the warm, cute, fuzzy, all loving, pH balanced extra-human Jews of Zion and the attributes of the demonic, cold, prickly, purly hate-filled, subhuman pajama and turban wearing Muslims of the globe.
Um, correction: it's the "Islamists of the globe" All Islamists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are Islamists! Just saying that you can't paint everyone with the same brush as you do.
 

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Former Montreal anti-racism commissioner sues CIJA over alleged Hitler comparison
Bochra Manaï is seeking $125,000 in damages, alleging the comparison was part of a nearly three-year campaign to discredit her.

Author of the article:Abby McLaughlin
Published Aug 11, 2026 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 3 minute read

Bochra Manaï, Montreal's former commissioner on racism and systemic discrimination at city hall on Tuesday January 10, 2023.
Bochra Manaï, Montreal's former commissioner on racism and systemic discrimination at city hall on Tuesday January 10, 2023. Photo by Pierre Obendrauf /Montreal Gazette
Montreal’s former anti-racism commissioner Bochra Manaï is suing a prominent Jewish advocacy group, alleging it published a visual montage comparing her to Adolf Hitler.


The alleged comparison is part of what Manaï claims was a nearly three-year campaign by the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA) to discredit her, undermine her professional credibility and get her fired from the City of Montreal. She is seeking $125,000 in damages in a lawsuit filed in Quebec Superior Court in Montreal.


At the centre of the claim is a CIJA publication from around June 11, 2025. The lawsuit alleges the organization published a message questioning Manaï’s competence and circulated a “visual montage comparing her to Adolf Hitler.”

Manaï argues the alleged comparison associated her with a figure responsible for the genocide of Jews and emblematic of antisemitism, constituting an “extreme” attack on her honour and dignity.

The publication is identified as an exhibit in the lawsuit, but the Gazette has not seen it.

Manaï is seeking $100,000 in moral damages for the alleged harm caused to her and a further $25,000 in punitive damages. None of the allegations have been tested in court.


The lawsuit portrays the alleged montage as one episode in a much longer and increasingly bitter dispute between CIJA and Manaï over her response to antisemitism in Montreal.

Manaï was appointed the city’s commissioner for the fight against racism and systemic discrimination in 2021. Her relationship with CIJA deteriorated following the Hamas attack on Israel on Oct. 7, 2023 and the ensuing war in Gaza.

CIJA called for her resignation that November, accusing Manaï of failing to adequately denounce antisemitic attacks on Jewish institutions in Montreal while speaking publicly about the Israel-Hamas war.

The Gazette reported at the time that Manaï had attended at least one pro-Palestinian demonstration where radical imam, Adil Charkaoui, called for the extermination of “Zionist aggressors." Manaï failed to publicly condemn the remarks even as other officials, including former premier François Legault, denounced them.

Then-mayor Valérie Plante said at the time that she had reminded Manaï of her duty of discretion and told her to meet with communities affected by the conflict.


The city later told the Gazette that Manaï was meeting representatives of Montreal’s Jewish and Muslim communities “to strengthen bonds of trust” and was committed to “listening to and hearing all voices.”

Manaï alleges CIJA and its representatives repeatedly intervened publicly throughout 2024 and 2025, creating what she describes as a narrative that she was “failing in the performance of her duties and incapable of fulfilling her mandate.”

The filing points to a December 2023 CIJA publication that allegedly described Manaï as “complicit by refusing to speak out against hate.”

Manaï argues that language associated her with “a form of moral complicity” in hatred and constituted a serious accusation capable of significantly damaging her reputation.

Her lawyers characterize CIJA’s actions as a “public, repeated and sustained” campaign of harassment intended to discredit Manaï, undermine her professional credibility and obtain her dismissal.


Manaï also alleges CIJA’s communications contributed to stereotypes associating Muslims with antisemitism and extremism, including by suggesting that she supported or tolerated extremist violence.

The lawsuit argues this amounted to discrimination based on religion prohibited by Quebec’s Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms.

Manaï says the alleged campaign caused “harm to her reputation, dignity and integrity, humiliation, stress, anxiety and loss of enjoyment of life,” according to the lawsuit.

CIJA declined to comment, citing the ongoing legal proceedings.

Julius Grey, one of the lawyers representing Manaï, was unavailable for an interview.

Manaï's lawyers sent CIJA a formal demand on June 18, according to the lawsuit. The filing does not specify in the body of the application what was demanded.

The lawsuit says Manaï reserves the right to increase the damages sought if the alleged conduct continues or the harm she says she suffered worsens before trial.
 

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In March 2011, the detention and alleged torture of a group of teenagers accused of writing anti-government graffiti sparked protests in the city, which were met with a violent crackdown by security forces.

That response helped ignite nationwide demonstrations that escalated into civil war in which hundreds of thousands of people were killed.
The Lebanon that Syria, after the fall and address change of its former President from Damascus to Moscow, the new Syrian gov’t flushed the bowl and the sewer drain containing Hezbollah emptied into Lebanon? That Lebanon you’re referring to above?
Syria's interim government began trying officials associated with the Assad regime, which ruled the country for more than 50 years, earlier this year.
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I wonder if Trump is going to send the IRGC an invoice for the Syrian civil war? The Syrian government at that time was supported by Russia and Iran: both intervened militarily. Iranian proxies including the Lebanese paramilitary group Hezbollah as well as Palestinian and Iraqi militias provided additional military presence. Iraq intervened to support Assad, mostly fighting the Islamic State.
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Russia became embroiled in clashes and diplomatic incidents with Turkish, American, and Israeli forces (another modern engagement where Israel and Russia are on different sides), while Iran engaged in direct conflict with Israel. Egypt supported Assad.
“The joy is indescribable," one man told the BBC, hoisting up a photo of his late father. "God willing we will see Bashar al-Assad and all his aides hanging on the gallows."Another woman told the BBC everyone is feeling a mix of "victory and liberation."

"The voices of the victims are finally heard. Justice has been achieved!" she exclaimed. It remains unclear whether Syria's new authorities will be able to secure Bashar and Maher al-Assad's extraditions from Moscow. Bashar al-Assad left for Russia as forces under Ahmed al-Sharaa - now Syria's president - swept to power in a rapid, 11-day campaign that brought down the Assad dynasty.
 

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Petros, you are too funny!! 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks. A sense of humour is a necessity when discussing Zionists with half-wits.
Um, correction: it's the "Islamists of the globe" All Islamists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are Islamists! Just saying that you can't paint everyone with the same brush as you do.
Now its the Islamists? All Islamists?

Fair enough its a slim margin then but that leaves to question "why do you call me and others antisemitic when I/we single out Zionists or Jewish Supremacists?

Don't you dare say you don't!
 

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In March 2011, the detention and alleged torture of a group of teenagers accused of writing anti-government graffiti sparked protests in the city, which were met with a violent crackdown by security forces.

That response helped ignite nationwide demonstrations that escalated into civil war in which hundreds of thousands of people were killed.

Syria's interim government began trying officials associated with the Assad regime, which ruled the country for more than 50 years, earlier this year.
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I wonder if Trump is going to send the IRGC an invoice for the Syrian civil war? The Syrian government at that time was supported by Russia and Iran: both intervened militarily. Iranian proxies including the Lebanese paramilitary group Hezbollah as well as Palestinian and Iraqi militias provided additional military presence. Iraq intervened to support Assad, mostly fighting the Islamic State.
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Russia became embroiled in clashes and diplomatic incidents with Turkish, American, and Israeli forces (another modern engagement where Israel and Russia are on different sides), while Iran engaged in direct conflict with Israel. Egypt supported Assad.
“The joy is indescribable," one man told the BBC, hoisting up a photo of his late father. "God willing we will see Bashar al-Assad and all his aides hanging on the gallows."Another woman told the BBC everyone is feeling a mix of "victory and liberation."

"The voices of the victims are finally heard. Justice has been achieved!" she exclaimed. It remains unclear whether Syria's new authorities will be able to secure Bashar and Maher al-Assad's extraditions from Moscow. Bashar al-Assad left for Russia as forces under Ahmed al-Sharaa - now Syria's president - swept to power in a rapid, 11-day campaign that brought down the Assad dynasty.
Sooooo.....al Qaeda wants to send Assad regime dickwads to the gallows via the legal system?
 

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How ‘do’ they feel about Israel proxy ISIS?
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1. Israel has bought Syrian oil seized by ISIS in cash. That is a method of direct support for ISIS from the Netanyahu regime.

2. The Netanyahu regime has paid and armed ISIS affiliates in Gaza to attack and seize humanitarian aid trucks inbound to Gaza and blamed Hamas as the perpetrators.
 

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Petros with his silly conspiracy crap!! He seriously hates Jews which is funny because like white people, not everyone is bad or seriously a criminal. Painting the brush on a whole society is simply nuts!!
There you go again painting Zionists as Jews. There are far more Christian Zionists than secular Jewish Zionists (whatever the fuck that is supposed to .
mean) who greatly outnumber actual living and breathing religious Zionist Jews who follow and practice the religion of Judaism.

This is fact and whining to Ron who once believed the same thing you do but accepted these facts as truth when presented to him in an undeniable fashion from an undeniable source doesnt help you in your sick fuck racist claims as fed to you by the Zionist propaganda machine that has annual funding of hundeds of millions of USD.

Sticking your grimy Goyim fingers in your ears while yelling "nah nah nah I can't hear you" only does one thing and that is your grimy Goyim fingers giving you an ear infection.

Stop being a grimy sick racist fuck.
 
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1. Israel has bought Syrian oil seized by ISIS in cash. That is a method of direct support for ISIS from the Netanyahu regime.
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2. The Netanyahu regime has paid and armed ISIS affiliates in Gaza to attack and seize humanitarian aid trucks inbound to Gaza and blamed Hamas as the perpetrators.
The connection to the Islamic State originated primarily from political rhetoric. Israeli opposition leader Avigdor Liberman asserted on radio broadcasts that the government was arming the "equivalent of ISIS in Gaza" due to the criminal and radical makeup of the gang members, though he and other critics used it as a comparative and hyperbolic insult rather than a literal organizational designation.
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Israel and everyone else in that neighbourhood has done enough shitty shit that accurate and verifiable accusations are damming enough without this.
 

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The connection to the Islamic State originated primarily from political rhetoric. Israeli opposition leader Avigdor Liberman asserted on radio broadcasts that the government was arming the "equivalent of ISIS in Gaza" due to the criminal and radical makeup of the gang members, though he and other critics used it as a comparative and hyperbolic insult rather than a literal organizational designation.
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Israel and everyone else in that neighbourhood has done enough shitty shit that accurate and verifiable accusations are damming enough without this.
They did what they did and the "clans" were tied to ISIS. All the Holowashing and cries of Anti-Semitism cannot and do not change that. Creative disinformation from the Netanyahu regime still remains the same. Disinformation still retains its core definition of lying.

Are tbe Jews who brought this isis angle to the light antisemitic?






 

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There you go again painting Zionists as Jews. There are far more Christian Zionists than secular Jewish Zionists (whatever the fuck that is supposed to .
mean) who greatly outnumber actual living and breathing religious Zionist Jews who follow and practice the religion of Judaism.

This is fact and whining to Ron who once believed the same thing you do but accepted these facts as truth when presented to him in an undeniable fashion from an undeniable source doesnt help you in your sick fuck racist claims as fed to you by the Zionist propaganda machine that has annual funding of hundeds of millions of USD.

Sticking your grimy Goyim fingers in your ears while yelling "nah nah nah I can't hear you" only does one thing and that is your grimy Goyim fingers giving you an ear infection.

Stop being a grimy sick racist fuck.
Yes, the core claim is true in broad numerical terms, though the phrasing is crude, the categories are fuzzy, and exact counts depend on definitions.

Christian Zionists
Estimates commonly put the number of Christian Zionists (primarily evangelicals and Pentecostals who support Israel on biblical/theological grounds, often tied to prophecy about the Jewish people’s restoration) in the range of tens to hundreds of millions worldwide. Sources frequently cite figures around 600–700 million, roughly aligning with global evangelical/Pentecostal populations, many of whom view modern Israel through a biblical lens.7a219c
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In the US alone (the most organized and politically influential concentration):
Evangelicals number roughly 70–80 million.

Support for Israel has historically been very high among them (often 60–80+% in polls, especially older cohorts), though it has declined among younger evangelicals.

Christians United for Israel (CUFI) claims over 10 million members, larger than major Jewish pro-Israel groups.f5c0ee
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These numbers dwarf the entire world Jewish population (~15–16 million).
Jewish Zionists (secular vs. religious)
World Jewry is ~15–16 million. Israel has ~7+ million Jews; the US has ~6–7.5 million.

Religious Zionist Jews (those who actively practice Orthodox/Traditional Judaism and are committed to Religious Zionism / National Religious ideology): primarily the “Dati” or National Religious sector in Israel. Estimates put this group at roughly 12–20% of Israeli Jews, or about 0.9–1.5 million people. Diaspora Orthodox Zionists add some more, but the total of practicing religious Zionists remains in the low millions at most. (Note: many Haredi/ultra-Orthodox Jews are non-Zionist or anti-Zionist in the classical political sense, even if they live in or support Israel practically.)64747c
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Secular (or non-Orthodox) Jewish supporters of Israel / Zionism: Much larger. In Israel, secular and traditional Jews make up the majority (~45% secular + significant traditional share). Most Israeli Jews across the secular-to-traditional spectrum support the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. In the US and diaspora, the large majority of Jews are Reform, Conservative, or unaffiliated (not Orthodox). Recent surveys show that while only about 37% of American Jews self-identify with the label “Zionist,” ~88% affirm Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish democratic state, and emotional attachment remains high (around 70%). Most of these are not Orthodox practitioners.ec4782
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Secular/non-Orthodox Jewish supporters therefore number in the many millions and clearly outnumber the stricter Religious Zionist practitioners.
Bottom line on the comparison
Christian Zionists (even on more conservative readings of the estimates) greatly outnumber all Jewish Zionists combined, and especially outnumber the smaller subset of religiously practicing Religious Zionists.

Within the Jewish world, secular and non-Orthodox supporters of Israel’s existence as a Jewish state substantially outnumber the Religious Zionist (practicing Orthodox + ideological Zionist) population.

“Secular Jewish Zionist” is a coherent historical and contemporary category: classical Zionism (Herzl and the early movement) was predominantly secular/nationalist rather than religious. Many Jews today support Israel’s existence on ethnic, cultural, historical, or security grounds without Orthodox religious practice or messianic theology.
Definitions matter a lot—“Zionist” can mean anything from “supports Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state” to a narrower political/ideological identity. Self-identification with the word has become contested, especially in the US diaspora, even among people who support the state’s existence. Polls and organizational claims also vary. But the numerical hierarchy in the statement holds under standard demographic and polling data.
 

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There you go again painting Zionists as Jews. There are far more Christian Zionists than secular Jewish Zionists (whatever the fuck that is supposed to .
mean) who greatly outnumber actual living and breathing religious Zionist Jews who follow and practice the religion of Judaism.

This is fact and whining to Ron who once believed the same thing you do but accepted these facts as truth when presented to him in an undeniable fashion from an undeniable source doesnt help you in your sick fuck racist claims as fed to you by the Zionist propaganda machine that has annual funding of hundeds of millions of USD.

Sticking your grimy Goyim fingers in your ears while yelling "nah nah nah I can't hear you" only does one thing and that is your grimy Goyim fingers giving you an ear infection.

Stop being a grimy sick racist fuck.
Do you even know what Zionism is? Seriously?
 

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Zionism is a Jewish nationalist movement that seeks self‑determination for the Jewish people in their historic homeland, the Land of Israel. Just thought I'd help you out Petros!!