Hamas attacks Israel

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Yeah, well, 75 years of being surrounded by hostile neighbours bent on your destruction has made Israel a little brutal. Israel's not guiltless either of course, I think its behaviour in the West Bank in particular is unconscionable, but it does draw humanitarian lines its enemies do not. It doesn't use suicide bombers or human shields or deliberately attack civilians, but collateral damage in a place as densely populated as Gaza is unavoidable. And Hamas et al know they're going to get thunderous reprisals, Israel's always done that, which will just create more collateral damage they can point to as Israeli atrocities. And they must know that Israel with U.S. help could send Gaza back into the Stone Age in short order if it chose to. That U.S. carrier task force on its way to the eastern Mediterranean could probably do it in a couple of leisurely afternoons. The fact that it hasn't chosen to speaks well of its restraint, restraint that its neighbours would not show if they had the power to do what they want, which is simply to utterly destroy Israel, the Hamas charter at least is quite clear about that. Both sides claim the land was promised to them by a deity and it's the parties of gawd who are preventing the obvious two state solution. They've done it before.

I thought there was some kind of weird statute of limitations on this thread, and it couldn’t have any mention of anything that happened in World War II or previous? Perhaps I’m mistaken. It happens.

While the Islamic Republic is under growing American military pressure, Tehran is hoping three of its traditional proxies — the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas — to rejoin the war. Can these Tehran allies regain losses they suffered in the last two years?
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The Houthis are threatening to deepen a global energy crisis by blocking Saudi oil exports to Asia. Hezbollah, increasingly disliked by the Lebanese people, is facing American progress in forging ties between the Jerusalem and Beirut governments. Hamas increasingly hitches its wagon to Tehran, picking a leader close to Iran.

The dominant power at Tehran, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, is widening attacks on American bases in Gulf countries and increasingly targeting Jordan. Tehran considers these American allies the equivalent of its own terror proxies. Yet Iran, perhaps of fear, is yet to directly attack Israel…this round anyway.🤔
For two years Israel has hit Hamas and Hezbollah, depleting much of the Iran-backed terrorists’ arsenals and killing many of its fighters. The proxy network that was built by the late IRGC Quds force commander, Qassem Soleimani, is a shadow of what it used to be.
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Tehran is rebuilding Hezbollah to the tune of $1 billion a year. In Yemen, the Houthis mostly remained quiet since the February 28 launch of the American and Israeli strikes in Iran, but the Yemeni terrorists are now revisiting the idea of closing the Red Sea to vital commerce. And Hamas is signaling this week a tightening of relations with the IRGC.

“In a formal statement on Monday, the Houthi armed forces announced that “a maritime embargo against the criminal Saudi enemy, based on the equation of ‘an eye for an eye,’ is effective immediately.” The announcement caps a recent tit-for-tat that started when Saudi jets bombed the Sanaa airport last week, after an arms-carrying Iranian cargo plane landed there.”

Sounds like Saudi Arabia has done exactly what Ukraine has done, for the same reasons. In a post on X Saturday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said the targets included “ships that were involved in transporting military cargo from Iran, as well as a warship,” subsequently identified by Ukraine’s security service as a Russian missile boat.
No. Saudi Arabia is not doing the samething as Ukraine. They werent invaded but Palestine and Lebanon were invaded and Ukraine did what Palestine and Lebanon did which is use a foreign sponsored paramilitary to fight their invaders.

When did the war between Ukraine and Russia start in your mind?

Give me a date.
 

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No. Saudi Arabia is not doing the samething as Ukraine. They werent invaded but Palestine and Lebanon were invaded and Ukraine did what Palestine and Lebanon did which is use a foreign sponsored paramilitary to fight their invaders.
What? Ukraine & Saudi Arabia both in the last week or less took out Iranian arms shipments going to adversaries of Ukraine and Saudi Arabia.

Anyway, Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday in separate, closed-door working meetings.
When did the war between Ukraine and Russia start in your mind?

Give me a date.
Well, Ukraine was part of the USSR until sometime around 1991, so it would have to be after that, unless you want to go back about 100yrs with the Bolsheviks, but I don’t think the Jews could be blamed for that one, so let’s go with 2014 when Russia last annexed a chunk of Ukraine before trying for a bigger bite most recently during the Ottawa parking fiasco with the bouncy castles and Trudeau in the Batcave in 2022.

Let’s take the middle date, and say 2014 after the USSR is already history, with Ukraine being Ukraine & Russia being Russia and not the former USSR at that point.
Wait a second…internet theories claim modern Eastern European Jews descend from the Khazars and view Ukraine as a secret "homeland," alleging Russia's invasion was meant to thwart a Jewish-Ukrainian empire.😳
 

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Who told you that, Zionists? They don't want you or the Jews. They want the Zionists who want them and you under their thumb.

What does history tell us about where the Communists took root? Was it in the Church? No. Was it in the Mosque? No.

It took root in the "Pale of Settlement" the "Jewish Bund" in the Synagogue.

Were Marx, Engels, Trotsky, Zinoviev, and Sverdlov closet Muslims? No. Were they Christian? No. They were Jews.

So who were they? They came out of something that happened 100 years earlier called "The Jewish Reformation" in Germany. Three groups came out the Jewish Reformation. Secular Reform, Mosaic Reform and Orthodox.

It was within the Reform that gave us Moses Mendelssohn and Abraham Geiger who inspired Marx and Engels who inspired the Communist Manifesto which inspired Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov and inspired V.I. Lenin who created the multi-faith Russian Social Democratic Labour Party which then became the Socialist Bolshevik Party which spawned the Jewish Reformist capitalistic Mensheviks. But alas, no Muslisheviks.

Then World War 1 happened and the fall of the Turkish Ottoman Empire and the end of their Black Sea dominance. This had the Tsar's military stagnant. Soldiers with free time on their hands have nothing better to do than drink vodka and complain about the Tsar.

Meanwhile in the cities of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (where the 3 types of Jews lived) due to the Pale of Settlement hard times fell when the heavy industry of war collapsed. No jobs, no money and food staying in the fertile rural side enhanced the bitterness towards the Tsar amongst the Jews who suffered the Pogroms and inability to have farms and dachas and the destitute urban labour force tried to Unionize.

This is where VI Lenin steps in with his established Bolshevik Party with promises of jobs for everyone and equality amongst the Proletariat and war on the rich Bourgeoisie who owned the factories and went about flaunting it and abusing the labour in near slavery conditions.

We know how that ended with Lenin and his Socialist Bolsheviks in power creating USSR out Russia, Belarus and 2/3 of Ukraine.

So who extactly where the Bolsheviks?

In the lessons above we learned that Jewish Reformation in Germany spawned Marx and Engels which spawned Trotsky which spawned Lenin and Bolshevism aka fucking Commies out of the vote rich cities.

So what does this have to do with the 3 varieties of Jews? 1 type sat it out. The other 2 went tits deep into Bolshevism.

At the time of the 1917 Russian Revolution, Jews made up approximately 4% to 5% of the total population of the Russian Empire (roughly 5 million people, largely confined to cities by the Pale of Settlement).

4-5% you say? Big Deal right?

While the general population percentage of the 3 Jews was low, individuals of Jewish origin accounted for a higher percentage of the early revolutionary leadership and the Bolshevik Central Committee (roughly 20% to 40% in top policymaking bodies like the early Politburo).

The top of the top of Bolsheviks was tilted to Ukrainian Jews who had he biggest bone to pick with Tsarist Christians who were tasked with Pogroms and Pale of Settlement enforcement.

So what did these high level Jews in the Soviet regime do?

They took revenge on the rural farmer Christians (Kulaks) with Lenin's Gulags and Stalin's Holodomor and killed off 50 fucking million Christians.

How the fuck did Muslims get pegged with Communists?
The Zionists? Seriously? All one has to do is LISTEN to the Islamists. Also, listen to the Progressives & the socialists. They're all in it together & if they succeed, they're fight amongst themselves but for now, they're goal is the same: the destruction of the West. They're quite open about it. You should do your research. It's not actually about the Jews. They're just the start!!

They're quite clear about destroying Israel & then, if successful (which I hope they're not) they're coming after you & me!! Even the politicians don't seem to believe what they say which is incredibly stupid & naive because they'll be the first ones on the chopping block!! The stupidity going around is a choice & unfortunately, bad choices will destroy what we have if we don't do something about it.
 
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The Zionists? Seriously? All one has to do is LISTEN to the Islamists. Also, listen to the Progressives & the socialists. They're all in it together & if they succeed, they're fight amongst themselves but for now, they're goal is the same: the destruction of the West. They're quite open about it. You should do your research. It's not actually about the Jews. They're just the start!!

They're quite clear about destroying Israel & then, if successful (which I hope they're not) they're coming after you & me!! Even the politicians don't seem to believe what they say which is incredibly stupid & naive because they'll be the first ones on the chopping block!! The stupidity going around is a choice & unfortunately, bad choices will destroy what we have if we don't do something about it.
Ive done my research, I post it, I give links yet you still ignore or deny what is wide open and freely available. Why? You don’t want to believe youve been used by people who call you a subhuman farm animal.

Muzzies arent coming after you and me.

You have far more in common with a Muzzie than you do a Zionist who thinks your religion is a farce. There is no Judeo-Christian anything. Its propaganda.

Have you heard of Shabbad and the Noahide Religion Zionists want you to accept? I doubt it. Do your research.
 

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Ive done my research, I post it, I give links yet you still ignore or deny what is wide open and freely available. Why? You don’t want to believe youve been used by people who call you a subhuman farm animal.

Muzzies arent coming after you and me.

You have far more in common with a Muzzie than you do a Zionist who thinks your religion is a farce. There is no Judeo-Christian anything. Its propaganda.

Have you heard of Shabbad and the Noahide Religion Zionists want you to accept? I doubt it. Do your research.
WOW, you have been brainwashed haven't you? Unbelievable!
 
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Turkey supports Hamas due to ideological alignment, domestic political goals, and regional ambitions. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğa views Hamas as a legitimate national liberation movement rather than a terrorist organization. Turkey's ruling AKP party shares deep ideological ties and historical roots with the Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas also originates.

Staunch pro-Palestinian rhetoric and backing for Hamas play well with Erdoğan’s conservative, nationalist, and pro-Islamic domestic grassroots voters. Erdoğan aims to position himself as a primary defender of the Palestinian cause and a leading voice across the Muslim world.

Turkey has historically hosted Hamas political bureau members and provided a base for political operations, fundraising, and diplomatic meetings. Ankara routinely lobbies internationally on behalf of Hamas's positions and pushes for a formal Turkish military and civil footprint in post-conflict Gaza.
 
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Turkey supports Hamas due to ideological alignment, domestic political goals, and regional ambitions. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğa views Hamas as a legitimate national liberation movement rather than a terrorist organization. Turkey's ruling AKP party shares deep ideological ties and historical roots with the Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas also originates.

Staunch pro-Palestinian rhetoric and backing for Hamas play well with Erdoğan’s conservative, nationalist, and pro-Islamic domestic grassroots voters. Erdoğan aims to position himself as a primary defender of the Palestinian cause and a leading voice across the Muslim world.

Turkey has historically hosted Hamas political bureau members and provided a base for political operations, fundraising, and diplomatic meetings. Ankara routinely lobbies internationally on behalf of Hamas's positions and pushes for a formal Turkish military and civil footprint in post-conflict Gaza.
Good.
 
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A senior Hamas official has told the BBC the group has agreed to the Board of Peace's plan to completely disarm in Gaza and that an official statement would be released soon. Israel has yet to comment.
“The US president said Israel would withdraw from Gaza "as disarmament is completed" and called the agreement "a critical step towards Gaza finally being governed by a new Palestinian government".

"The International Stabilization Force will work with a new Palestinian police force to take responsibility for Gaza being safe for its residents and its neighbours," he said in a post on Truth Social.🤞
 
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Turkey supports Hamas due to ideological alignment, domestic political goals, and regional ambitions. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğa views Hamas as a legitimate national liberation movement rather than a terrorist organization. Turkey's ruling AKP party shares deep ideological ties and historical roots with the Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas also originates.

Staunch pro-Palestinian rhetoric and backing for Hamas play well with Erdoğan’s conservative, nationalist, and pro-Islamic domestic grassroots voters. Erdoğan aims to position himself as a primary defender of the Palestinian cause and a leading voice across the Muslim world.

Turkey has historically hosted Hamas political bureau members and provided a base for political operations, fundraising, and diplomatic meetings. Ankara routinely lobbies internationally on behalf of Hamas's positions and pushes for a formal Turkish military and civil footprint in post-conflict Gaza.
I keep wondering why Turkey is part of NATO. It doesn't make sense.
 

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And there goes NATO.
Europe is on its own.
Everyone is on its own.
Let the end times Donnybrook begin.

Make popcorn (or invest in it)
Maybe it's about time?? For Europe to stand on their own feet? We helped restore their countries after WW2 & I think it's time they went out on their own. That's what Trump wants & I agree with him.
 

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Ive done my research, I post it, I give links yet you still ignore or deny what is wide open and freely available. Why? You don’t want to believe youve been used by people who call you a subhuman farm animal.

Muzzies arent coming after you and me.

You have far more in common with a Muzzie than you do a Zionist who thinks your religion is a farce. There is no Judeo-Christian anything. Its propaganda.

Have you heard of Shabbad and the Noahide Religion Zionists want you to accept? I doubt it. Do your research.
Maybe not now, but they will if we don't fight for our rights & freedoms. As it stands now, Canada is a surveillance state so one must watch what they say & do or hurt someone's feelings & you could be in trouble. But rest assured, after they get all the Jews, they're COMING FOR YOU (& the rest of us)! Don't be so naive!! Cognitive dissonance isn't going to help.
 

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A senior Hamas official has told the BBC the group has agreed to the Board of Peace's plan to completely disarm in Gaza and that an official statement would be released soon. Israel has yet to comment.
“The US president said Israel would withdraw from Gaza "as disarmament is completed" and called the agreement "a critical step towards Gaza finally being governed by a new Palestinian government".

"The International Stabilization Force will work with a new Palestinian police force to take responsibility for Gaza being safe for its residents and its neighbours," he said in a post on Truth Social.🤞
 
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This would be wonderful news for the whole region if it actually happens. The obvious question is who will control Gaza, and keep the Iran backed terrorists out?
That is the rub, isn’t it? Or at least one of them. Has Hamas actually agreed to the Board of Peace plan, or selectively to some portion or portions of it while inserting their own conditions and then agreeing to them as if they where already in there, etc…

Has Hamas ‘actually’ agreed to disarm, or to ‘partially disarm’ in such a way as putting some of your firearms in the corner instead behind the front door is disarming?
 

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A senior Hamas official has told the BBC the group has agreed to the Board of Peace's plan to completely disarm in Gaza and that an official statement would be released soon. Israel has yet to comment.
“The US president said Israel would withdraw from Gaza "as disarmament is completed" and called the agreement "a critical step towards Gaza finally being governed by a new Palestinian government".

"The International Stabilization Force will work with a new Palestinian police force to take responsibility for Gaza being safe for its residents and its neighbours," he said in a post on Truth Social.🤞
Brilliant... that is a "checkmate" for Hamas.

And that my friend will kick off the economic collapse of Israel and trigger the Civil War that Oct 7 conveniently delayed.

Hamas won.
 

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Maybe not now, but they will if we don't fight for our rights & freedoms. As it stands now, Canada is a surveillance state so one must watch what they say & do or hurt someone's feelings & you could be in trouble. But rest assured, after they get all the Jews, they're COMING FOR YOU (& the rest of us)! Don't be so naive!! Cognitive dissonance isn't going to help.
No they are not coming for me. My Rights and Freedoms are their Rights and Freedoms.

Surveillance state? The already established laws putting one group above all and the further push to jail anyone who speaks out against whom? Christians? No. Muslims? No. Jews? YES!!!

When it comes to surveillance nobody beats Israel. Nobody!!! All of their "worlds best tech" has been created, deployed and fine tuned on Palestinians and now you yourself.

Every time you deny facts about the Zionist terrorist founding of Israel, deny the Palestinian genocide, deny their empirical, fascist, racist denigrating oppressive behaviors, deny being called a subhuman Goyim and label someone "Antisemitic" you are justifying the dismantling of my and your very own Rights and Freedoms on behalf of Israel.

You do that every fucking time I drop verified facts about the Zionist pigs being fucking Zionist pigs. They openly state they are fucking doing this shit you deny it all and run to Antisemitism as your coping mechanism which only empowers these fucking assholes to be the murderous, racist, oppressive, controlling fucking pigs that they are. STOP IT!!! STOP PUTTING THESE FUCKING PIGS ABOVE YOURSELF AND YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT THEY HATE. MUSLIMS RESPECT AND VALIDATE YOUR BELIEFS. JUDAISM OPENLY CALLS YOUR AND MUSLIM BELIEFS BULLSHIT.

STOP DEGRADING MY AND YOUR VERY OWN RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS ON BEHALF OF ZIONISTS BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID TO BE LABELED "ANTISEMITIC".

Is it Botswanan tech our govt uses on us illegally to oppress us on behalf of protecting a foreign terrorist regime that has never and will never protect you or your Rights and Freedoms ever?

The intersection of the Canadian government, domestic law enforcement, and Israeli commercial spyware centers on the use of surveillance tools like Pegasus (made by Israel’s NSO Group) and similar military-grade software. While federal bodies like the RCMP state they do not use Pegasus itself, reports from The Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto have highlighted deep connections between Canadian police agencies and Israeli spyware ecosystems. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Federal and Provincial Law Enforcement Use
    • RCMP Stance: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police have acknowledged using undisclosed device-access spyware tools in dozens of investigations since 2017 targeting serious crimes like terrorism and murder, but explicitly stated they do not use NSO Group's Pegasus. [1, 2]
    • Provincial Deployments: Research by The Citizen Lab revealed technical infrastructure links suggesting the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) and other regional Ontario police services utilize surveillance products—such as Graphite, made by the Israeli spyware firm Paragon Solutions. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Controversies and Oversight
    • Privacy Concerns: Canadian civil liberties groups and privacy watchdogs have raised alarms over police use of commercial, military-grade spyware due to a lack of transparent judicial oversight and the potential compromise of citizen data security. [1, 2]
    • Global Context: Pegasus itself—regulated under Israeli defense export controls—faced international backlash after investigations showed authoritarian and democratic governments alike misused it to track journalists, activists, and politicians. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Would you like to explore:
  • The specific privacy laws governing police wiretaps and cell phone hacking in Canada?
  • The findings from Citizen Lab regarding Israeli spyware developers?

Name one, just one fucking time theyve stood up on your behalf. Good luck!
 
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