Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period
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Netanyahu in his own words on Turkey....prepare for more Hasbara
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This is the "good" al Qaeda?
I’ll check that out when I’m making supper this evening. The U.S. move came after three tankers reported being struck by unknown projectiles in and near the Strait of Hormuz in recent days, the British navy-affiliated agency UKMTO said in a report. There was no immediate comment from Tehran, or any claim of responsibility.
Oil prices were up more than 5% following the announcement. The U.S. Treasury had authorized last month Iran oil sales until August 21 as part of the fragile agreement between Tehran and Washington. Tuesday's revocation cuts that wind-down period to an end date of July 17? The U.S. official said negotiators continued to work in good faith toward a final agreement with Iran despite the latest escalation.
The attacks and the U.S. response threaten to put the diplomatic understanding between Washington and Tehran on shaky ground (?), raising the risk that further retaliation could derail negotiations over a broader agreement.
This “understanding” (or lack there of?) wasn’t on shaky ground before the memorandum of understanding was ever signed?
Another U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said initial indications were that Iran had fired at three commercial vessels.
I think there’s more than three players in this. Anyway, Oil prices have fallen steeply since the agreement was struck last month. Bob McNally, president of Rapidan Energy Group, said the developments "signal that the ceasefire is not as solid and durable as the oil market has chosen to assume," and added that "the oil market has some risk pricing to do."
US reinstates sanctions on Iranian oil sales after LNG, oil tanker attacks — Reuters
The United States on Tuesday re-imposed sanctions on Iranian oil, as a U.S. official warned that Iran's attacks on vessels in the Strait of Hormuz were "wholly unacceptable" and would be met with consequences.
US launches strikes on Iran after tankers hit in Strait of Hormuz — BBC News
The US says the strikes are intended to impose "heavy costs", while Iran warns it will "take decisive measures" in response.
US launches new strikes against Iran after three ships were hit in Strait of Hormuz — The Canadian Press
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. military launched new strikes
Iran targeted American military sites in the Gulf on Wednesday after the U.S. launched strikes on several places in Iran and reinstated sanctions on its oil sales. Washington said it was responding to Iranian attacks on ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
The crossfire raised fears that the war in Iran could reignite, and U.S. President Donald Trump fueled those concerns by saying that the interim agreement to pause fighting was “over,” although he added that he would “allow” negotiations to continue.
(YouTube & Trump declares Iran ceasefire is 'OVER')
“The U.S. military’s Central Command said American forces launched strikes “to impose heavy costs for targeting and attacking commercial shipping crewed by innocent civilians in an international waterway.”
It said it hit Iranian targets including air defense systems, radars and over 60 small boats used by Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard.
“On Wednesday morning, both Bahrain, home to the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet, and Kuwait, home to U.S. Army forces, sounded missile alerts. The Guard issued a statement acknowledging targeting U.S. military installations in both countries.
Kuwait said it intercepted two ballistic missiles and 13 drones launched by Iran. Its Electricity Ministry said a number of lines were out of service after shrapnel fell on them?
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The crossfire raised fears that the war in Iran could reignite, and U.S. President Donald Trump fueled those concerns by saying that the interim agreement to pause fighting was “over,” although he added that he would “allow” negotiations to continue.
“The U.S. military’s Central Command said American forces launched strikes “to impose heavy costs for targeting and attacking commercial shipping crewed by innocent civilians in an international waterway.”
It said it hit Iranian targets including air defense systems, radars and over 60 small boats used by Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard.
“On Wednesday morning, both Bahrain, home to the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet, and Kuwait, home to U.S. Army forces, sounded missile alerts. The Guard issued a statement acknowledging targeting U.S. military installations in both countries.
Kuwait said it intercepted two ballistic missiles and 13 drones launched by Iran. Its Electricity Ministry said a number of lines were out of service after shrapnel fell on them?
Iran and US trade fire and Trump calls the ceasefire into question — The Canadian Press
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran targeted American military sites in the
Trump is scheduled to arrive at the NATO summit on Tuesday. His first meeting will be with the summit host, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan. Trump is scheduled to arrive at the summit on Tuesday. His first meeting will be with the summit host, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan. Trump will also meet with Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa and hold a news conference, the White House said.
This Al Qaeda guy that Trump is meeting with, that’s at the NATO summit? If held, the talks would mark the third meeting between the Syrian and US presidents in 2025. The two leaders previously met in Washington on November 10 and in Riyadh on May 14.
Türkiye, the host of this year’s NATO summit, has advocated for scrapping the designation on Syria as a state sponsor of terrorism. This Al Qaeda guy?
Exclusive: Trump expected to remove Syrian terrorism designation
Advocates for fully normalized relations with Damascus are bullish ahead of the US president’s meeting with his Syrian counterpart.
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From this morning news, it would appear the war is on again. Since neither side has a firm grip on reality, it is difficult to say just what is happening.
Was it ever really off (that war, I mean) except what Trump was telling Congress so that he didn’t have to be answerable? Prime Minister Mark Carney has backed the latest U.S. strikes on Iran, calling it an appropriate response to ceasefire violations.
The remarks were made on the way into the NATO Summit in Ankara, where President Donald Trump declared the ceasefire with the Islamic nation over. Trump again bashed the western military alliance for not joining the U.S. and Israel in the war. Going into the Ankara Summit, Trump said he’s had enough. “I don’t want to deal with them anymore, they’re scum,” Trump said. “They’re sick people. And they’re led by sick people. As far as I am concerned, it’s over.”
(Trump was talking about Iran and not NATO at that point, just for clarity)
Carney backs latest U.S. strikes on Iran as Trump slams NATO allies — CBC News
Prime Minister Mark Carney endorsed the latest U.S. strikes on Iran as a justified response to ceasefire violations, even as President Donald Trump declared the truce finished and accused NATO allies of abandoning Washington. Alliance leaders sought to contain the rift while urging de-escalation...
(NATO is fundamentally defined by its charter as a defensive alliance. Its core principle is collective defense, meaning an armed attack against one member is considered an attack against all 0.5.2.)
“Iran's parliamentary speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf accused the US of breaching their Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on this issue, and others, including the attacks in southern Iran and "violating Iranian adjustments in the Strait".
"The era of bullying and extortion is over. It leads nowhere. We don't fold," he said.
Nato chief Mark Rutte described the American strikes as "absolutely necessary", saying that Iran was "basically violating the ceasefire". It is not clear when talks will resume (the Iran talks, not the NATO talks) after this latest round of strikes, as Trump responded to a question about further negotiations with the comment: "I don't care".
"Frankly, I don't want to waste my time with them. Now, I'll let our wonderful negotiators keep talking if they want, but I don't see it," Trump said.
"As far as I'm concerned, it's just a waste of time dealing with them. They're liars."
Trump says ceasefire is 'over' after US and Iran trade strikes — BBC News
Speaking ahead of a Nato summit, the president says US negotiators can keep talking with the Iranians "if they want".
CUSMA/USMCA/EIEIO/LMNOP/NAFTA2.0 approval is on Carneys mind with the orange 800lb gorilla in the room, so I doubt that has anything to do with Netanyahu, & most of the other NATO members are aping the same line as Carney for their own reasons.
US needs out of NATO otherwise Israel can't attack Turkey.Trump is scheduled to arrive at the NATO summit on Tuesday. His first meeting will be with the summit host, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan. Trump is scheduled to arrive at the summit on Tuesday. His first meeting will be with the summit host, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan. Trump will also meet with Syrian President Ahmed al-Sharaa and hold a news conference, the White House said.
This Al Qaeda guy that Trump is meeting with, that’s at the NATO summit? If held, the talks would mark the third meeting between the Syrian and US presidents in 2025. The two leaders previously met in Washington on November 10 and in Riyadh on May 14.
Türkiye, the host of this year’s NATO summit, has advocated for scrapping the designation on Syria as a state sponsor of terrorism. This Al Qaeda guy?
Exclusive: Trump expected to remove Syrian terrorism designation
Advocates for fully normalized relations with Damascus are bullish ahead of the US president’s meeting with his Syrian counterpart.
Aren’t most of the US bases in and across Europe based upon being members of NATO? Their forward operating bases so that they can deploy quickly on the other side of the Atlantic I mean? Wouldn’t pulling out of NATO be detrimental to their forward operating bases and stockpiles? This would reduce their force projection dramatically if they had to wait for rearmament items to come from Alabama instead of Spain or Germany when they’re playing in the Middle East for example.
Is there some other reason why all these European countries have allowed US bases on their territory other than NATO?
It could be a coincidence, but is it?
U.S. Launches New Strikes on Iran After Trump Declares Ceasefire Over — The Wall Street Journal
The president had earlier promised a second night of attacks during the NATO summit in Turkey
What would happen if the US left Nato?
Donald Trump keeps threatening to withdraw from the alliance but actually doing so would present major challenges
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Bases can be on contract and not part of NATO and even contract to NATO like CFB Moose Jaw. CF pilots and NATO pilots going through training at the same facility.Aren’t most of the US bases in and across Europe based upon being members of NATO? Their forward operating bases so that they can deploy quickly on the other side of the Atlantic I mean? Wouldn’t pulling out of NATO be detrimental to their forward operating bases and stockpiles? This would reduce their force projection dramatically if they had to wait for rearmament items to come from Alabama instead of Spain or Germany when they’re playing in the Middle East for example.
Is there some other reason why all these European countries have allowed US bases on their territory other than NATO?
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U.S. Launches New Strikes on Iran After Trump Declares Ceasefire Over — The Wall Street Journal
The president had earlier promised a second night of attacks during the NATO summit in TurkeyWhat would happen if the US left Nato?
Donald Trump keeps threatening to withdraw from the alliance but actually doing so would present major challenges
Control of the strait, through which a fifth of global oil supplies passed before the war, has given Tehran immense leverage, effectively allowing it to force a stalemate with the world's most powerful military. While Iran has not claimed responsibility for the ship attacks, analysts say Tehran uses such actions to gain leverage in negotiations.
Asked before a NATO summit in Turkey on Wednesday whether the memorandum of understanding was over, Trump said: "It's a very interesting question. To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them."
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U.S. President Donald Trump said Wednesday evening that he does not know whether Washington and Iran are returning to a full-fledged war, but told reporters that Iran "badly" wants to make a deal to cease escalating hostilities in the Middle East. This sounds so familiar.
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Trump flew back to Washington, D.C., via the U.K. on Wednesday. Speaking to reporters on board one of the Air Force One’s as he departed the U.K.'s Mildenhall Air Force Base, the president said American forces had "just hit [Iran] very hard."
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The U.S. president dismissed the ongoing peace efforts and labeled Iranian leaders “scum,” but said he would allow negotiations to continue and did not think this new fighting would result in “long-term” military action. This time, Iran’s retaliation also targeted Qatar and Jordan, the latter of which said it shot down eight Iranian missiles at around 7 a.m. ET Thursday.
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Asked before a NATO summit in Turkey on Wednesday whether the memorandum of understanding was over, Trump said: "It's a very interesting question. To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them."
US military carries out fresh strikes on Iran, prompting Iran attacks on Kuwait and Bahrain — Reuters
The U.S. military said on Wednesday it launched fresh strikes on Iran to keep the Strait of Hormuz open to shipping, triggering Iranian attacks on Kuwait and Bahrain in the latest escalation to derail efforts to end the war.
Trump says Iran called to make a deal after U.S. strikes — CNBC
When asked whether the U.S. and Iran are returning to a full-scale military conflict, Trump responded: "I don't know."
Trading Day: War on, risk-off: Stocks drop, crude jumps as Trump calls Iran peace deal 'over' — Reuters
The S&P 500 and the Dow followed their global counterparts lower on Wednesday, and crude prices surged as U.S. President Donald Trump declared the interim accord to end the war on Iran "over" following a series of tit-for-tat airstrikes.
U.S. and Iran exchange intense new attacks after Trump says ceasefire is ‘over’ — NBC News
Iranian officials reported a new set of attacks Thursday morning, hours after the American military said it completed strikes on 90 targets across the country. Tehran retaliated against U.S. allies across the Middle East.
How come you only get to read about what is happening and not see what is happening?Control of the strait, through which a fifth of global oil supplies passed before the war, has given Tehran immense leverage, effectively allowing it to force a stalemate with the world's most powerful military. While Iran has not claimed responsibility for the ship attacks, analysts say Tehran uses such actions to gain leverage in negotiations.
Asked before a NATO summit in Turkey on Wednesday whether the memorandum of understanding was over, Trump said: "It's a very interesting question. To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them."
U.S. President Donald Trump said Wednesday evening that he does not know whether Washington and Iran are returning to a full-fledged war, but told reporters that Iran "badly" wants to make a deal to cease escalating hostilities in the Middle East. This sounds so familiar.US military carries out fresh strikes on Iran, prompting Iran attacks on Kuwait and Bahrain — Reuters
The U.S. military said on Wednesday it launched fresh strikes on Iran to keep the Strait of Hormuz open to shipping, triggering Iranian attacks on Kuwait and Bahrain in the latest escalation to derail efforts to end the war.
Trump flew back to Washington, D.C., via the U.K. on Wednesday. Speaking to reporters on board one of the Air Force One’s as he departed the U.K.'s Mildenhall Air Force Base, the president said American forces had "just hit [Iran] very hard."Trump says Iran called to make a deal after U.S. strikes — CNBC
When asked whether the U.S. and Iran are returning to a full-scale military conflict, Trump responded: "I don't know."
The U.S. president dismissed the ongoing peace efforts and labeled Iranian leaders “scum,” but said he would allow negotiations to continue and did not think this new fighting would result in “long-term” military action. This time, Iran’s retaliation also targeted Qatar and Jordan, the latter of which said it shot down eight Iranian missiles at around 7 a.m. ET Thursday.Trading Day: War on, risk-off: Stocks drop, crude jumps as Trump calls Iran peace deal 'over' — Reuters
The S&P 500 and the Dow followed their global counterparts lower on Wednesday, and crude prices surged as U.S. President Donald Trump declared the interim accord to end the war on Iran "over" following a series of tit-for-tat airstrikes.
U.S. and Iran exchange intense new attacks after Trump says ceasefire is ‘over’ — NBC News
Iranian officials reported a new set of attacks Thursday morning, hours after the American military said it completed strikes on 90 targets across the country. Tehran retaliated against U.S. allies across the Middle East.
How come Trumps playing a shell game between Air Force One and Qatar Force One?
We all see things differently, so what do you see?
Carney suggested that there were "ambiguities" in the original ceasefire framework that may have contributed to its downfall.
Carney courts Saudi Arabia as U.S.-Iran ceasefire collapses — CBC News
Prime Minister Mark Carney sought to deepen ties with Saudi Arabia on Thursday as renewed U.S.-Iran fighting overshadowed his visit. Canada condemned Iranian attacks on Gulf shipping, reaffirmed support for regional security, raised human rights concerns and signalled a pragmatic reset in...
Its what I don’t see in 3 IDF theaters.
I'd like to see everything we've been able to see in all other wars including Russia/Ukraine where damage is shown on both sides and numbers of casualties whether forces or civilian are reported.
We know Iran blew numerous THAAD ballistic, Patriot long defense and Irony Dome in close systems and radars to bits and remainder short on ammo that will take 5 years to replace. So giving only the number stopped and not what go through IN PRINT sounds Reich to me. Iran is far from short on stockpiles and launch capacity.
Does it sound Reich to you?
During the last volley over Lebanon Israel lost an airbase but we don't hear these things. They aren't hiding damage from the enemy who has Chinese satellites and knew what was hit when they hit it.
You're the enemy they're hiding it from.