Gun Control is Completely Useless.

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So, if the long gun registry was destroyed as claimed, how will they know which gun owners to visit? Are they planning on hitting everyone with a PAL to see if they have recently illegal firearms?
My bet is that anyone that has these firearms has them well stashed. The government can't say we know you have this rifle without admitting they never destroyed the registry.
 
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Ron in Regina

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So, if the long gun registry was destroyed as claimed, how will they know which gun owners to visit? Are they planning on hitting everyone with a PAL to see if they have recently illegal firearms?
My bet is that anyone that has these firearms has them well stashed. The government can't say we know you have this rifle without admitting they never destroyed the registry.
Maybe it’s like “You’ve got a PAL &/or RPAL, so open up ‘cuz we’re on your doorstep, and if you don’t comply immediately, consider it/them cancelled effective immediately” sorta thing?

The Canadian government intends to transition from a ‘voluntary "buyback" to mandatory confiscation of prohibited firearms by, at minimum, utilizing an amnesty order ending October 30, 2026. Following this date, possession of the firearms will be illegal, making owners subject to criminal prosecution and potential RCMP-led collection, regardless of the voluntary program's low participation rate.

“Voluntary” participation for compensation ends as of 10/30/2026 also. After this date, continued possession becomes a criminal offense, subjecting owners to potential charges. Individuals who do not comply could face the revocation of their PAL (Possession and Acquisition License) and criminal liability for unauthorized possession of a now prohibited firearm, or possession of a non-prohibited firearm without a licence if it’s revoked.

Due to refusal from several municipal and provincial police forces to participate, the federal government plans to use RCMP-staffed Mobile Collection Units (MCU’s) to collect firearms. Owners can still avoid prosecution by using authorized businesses to permanently deactivate firearms or by surrendering them (voluntarily, of course) to local police without compensation.

The government has indicated that while participating in the compensation program is voluntary, complying with the ban by the end of the amnesty period in 210 days from now is not. Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree has stated that compliance is "not optional" and that the government is prepared to move to a "different approach" to ensure compliance.

Reports indicate the government has considered door-to-door collection methods in areas where compliance is low, as the government continues to treat the program as a mandatory removal of specific firearms. While some provinces and police organizations have expressed opposition, federal officials have affirmed their commitment to completing the confiscation.

Individuals who did not declare their prohibited firearms during the declaration period (which ended a few days ago) must dispose of or permanently deactivate them before the amnesty period ends on October 30, 2026. Owners in possession of a prohibited firearm or device following this date will be non-compliant with legislation and could face the loss of their Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL), as well as criminal liability.
 

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Maybe it’s like “You’ve got a PAL &/or RPAL, so open up ‘cuz we’re on your doorstep, and if you don’t comply immediately, consider it/them cancelled effective immediately” sorta thing?

The Canadian government intends to transition from a ‘voluntary "buyback" to mandatory confiscation of prohibited firearms by, at minimum, utilizing an amnesty order ending October 30, 2026. Following this date, possession of the firearms will be illegal, making owners subject to criminal prosecution and potential RCMP-led collection, regardless of the voluntary program's low participation rate.

“Voluntary” participation for compensation ends as of 10/30/2026 also. After this date, continued possession becomes a criminal offense, subjecting owners to potential charges. Individuals who do not comply could face the revocation of their PAL (Possession and Acquisition License) and criminal liability for unauthorized possession of a now prohibited firearm, or possession of a non-prohibited firearm without a licence if it’s revoked.

Due to refusal from several municipal and provincial police forces to participate, the federal government plans to use RCMP-staffed Mobile Collection Units (MCU’s) to collect firearms. Owners can still avoid prosecution by using authorized businesses to permanently deactivate firearms or by surrendering them (voluntarily, of course) to local police without compensation.

The government has indicated that while participating in the compensation program is voluntary, complying with the ban by the end of the amnesty period in 210 days from now is not. Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree has stated that compliance is "not optional" and that the government is prepared to move to a "different approach" to ensure compliance.

Reports indicate the government has considered door-to-door collection methods in areas where compliance is low, as the government continues to treat the program as a mandatory removal of specific firearms. While some provinces and police organizations have expressed opposition, federal officials have affirmed their commitment to completing the confiscation.

Individuals who did not declare their prohibited firearms during the declaration period (which ended a few days ago) must dispose of or permanently deactivate them before the amnesty period ends on October 30, 2026. Owners in possession of a prohibited firearm or device following this date will be non-compliant with legislation and could face the loss of their Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL), as well as criminal liability.
So does this mean they are going after certain ethnic groups that are using prohibited firearms on a daily basis . Or is this just an excuse to neuter law abiding Canadians so they can’t rebel against them ?
 
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Maybe it’s like “You’ve got a PAL &/or RPAL, so open up ‘cuz we’re on your doorstep, and if you don’t comply immediately, consider it/them cancelled effective immediately” sorta thing?
I don't have an RPAL, so not sure how it works. I don't own anything new enough to make the list. I think it would have the restricted weapons you own listed, but most of the newly prohibited toys would not have been listed on an RPAL. Anyone that has a newly prohibited toy is certainly not going to have them in the gun cabinet for the Gestapo to find. When they come knocking down your door with a list of rifles with serial numbers that you own will prove the long gun registry was never destroyed.
 

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So does this mean they are going after certain ethnic groups that are using prohibited firearms on a daily basis . Or is this just an excuse to neuter law abiding Canadians so they can’t rebel against them ?
Do you think so? Is that why the Trudeau Carney Libs are going after the legal gun owners & not spending that money on police officers and CBSA? It’s performative, & potentially low hanging fruit compared to actually dealing with the real problem.
I don't have an RPAL, so not sure how it works.
Ok, do you have a PAL? Do you purchase ammunition? Have you done so using a debit or credit card leaving an electronic trail?

Public Safety Minister Gary Anandasangaree has stated that compliance is "not optional" and that the government is prepared to move to a "different approach" to ensure compliance.
I don't own anything new enough to make the list. I think it would have the restricted weapons you own listed, but most of the newly prohibited toys would not have been listed on an RPAL.
“So Mr. Taxslave, you have a PAL. Why? It appears you’ve purchased ammunition in ‘X’ & ‘Y’ & ‘Z’ calibre in the last four years since Former PM Trudeau’s abomination of legislation called C-21 passed with royal Assent. We’re on your doorstep, and I’m assuming you wish to retain that PAL? If so then show me the firearms that fit these particular calibres of ammunition purchased.”

It’s not like Liberal Gov’t’s have ever gone into or after Canadian citizens bank accounts/records before. I’m seriously making this shit up as I go along, but how far fetched is it?
Anyone that has a newly prohibited toy is certainly not going to have them in the gun cabinet for the Gestapo to find. When they come knocking down your door with a list of rifles with serial numbers that you own will prove the long gun registry was never destroyed.
Yeah…so? You know it hasn’t been. I know it hasn’t been. Quebec sure as Hell wouldn’t have destroyed their national copy, & we’ve all heard what happened years back when Fort Mac was burning or flooding or facing plagues of locusts or whatever.
 

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Ok, do you have a PAL? Do you purchase ammunition? Have you done so using a debit or credit card leaving an electronic trail?
Of course. The PAL number is taken when you buy, regardless of how you pay for it. But ammunition can fit a variety of rifles, not just the scary looking ones. At least 1 of those is a .22. Probably the most popular gun in North America. The only commonality I could find looking through the list was that they look scary to some woman? in Toronto that has half a car stuck in her lip and nose and purple hair.
 

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Of course. The PAL number is taken when you buy, regardless of how you pay for it. But ammunition can fit a variety of rifles, not just the scary looking ones. At least 1 of those is a .22. Probably the most popular gun in North America. The only commonality I could find looking through the list was that they look scary to some woman? in Toronto that has half a car stuck in her lip and nose and purple hair.
I’m seriously making this shit up as I go along, but how far fetched is it?
??? It’s enough to get you to open your door to maintain your PAL if someone is on your doorstep demanding entry & inspection…or it’s not, I guess??? Again, just speculating here.
 

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??? It’s enough to get you to open your door to maintain your PAL if someone is on your doorstep demanding entry & inspection…or it’s not, I guess??? Again, just speculating here.
I don't know for sure. I have a PAL so I can buy ammunition. I really don't pay much attention to their rules. I know that you are only supposed to take a handgun from home to the range, and back. But lots of people out here go to gravel pits with them. As long as no Karen complains, the cops are not interested. AS one guy who may or may no know what he is talking about said, a change of government can cancel the whole gun grab and all those rifles can become legal again.
 

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I don't know for sure. I have a PAL so I can buy ammunition. I really don't pay much attention to their rules. I know that you are only supposed to take a handgun from home to the range, and back. But lots of people out here go to gravel pits with them. As long as no Karen complains, the cops are not interested. AS one guy who may or may no know what he is talking about said, a change of government can cancel the whole gun grab and all those rifles can become legal again.
Buying hand gun ammo takes an RPAL.
 

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Buying hand gun ammo takes an RPAL.
Don't own a hand gun. SO don't care. I don't load my on ammunition either so don't know what the rules are on that either. I know that when I had a safety fuse and multi series electric blasting tickets, with didgidet endorsement,I couldn't legally set off fireworks. Go figure.We all thought that was funny.
 

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Don't own a hand gun. SO don't care. I don't load my on ammunition either so don't know what the rules are on that either. I know that when I had a safety fuse and multi series electric blasting tickets, with didgidet endorsement,I couldn't legally set off fireworks. Go figure.We all thought that was funny.
It is a big deal for those of us with an RPAL and we do care and yes I save my brass.